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      03-17-2011, 07:52 PM   #1
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Finally Getting my WaveTrac installed!!

Now that WI is thawing (at least temporarily) I am finally getting my WaveTrac LSD and Dinan Stage 1 suspension and M3 lower control arms installed this coming Monday. I drop my car off at the shop Sunday night.

Any tips from those with Wavetrac that I should pass on to the shop to avoid problems?

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oh yeah, and assuming my stock sport suspension is in good shape, I will probably be selling. PM me if intersted
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Now that WI is thawing (at least temporarily) I am finally getting my WaveTrac LSD and Dinan Stage 1 suspension and M3 lower control arms installed this coming Monday. I drop my car off at the shop Sunday night.

Any tips from those with Wavetrac that I should pass on to the shop to avoid problems?

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I will definately write a review...
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Awesome, good luck man you'll love it!
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Can't wait to hear about it. I hope to have mine soon enough.
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Now that WI is thawing (at least temporarily) I am finally getting my WaveTrac LSD and Dinan Stage 1 suspension and M3 lower control arms installed this coming Monday. I drop my car off at the shop Sunday night.

Any tips from those with Wavetrac that I should pass on to the shop to avoid problems?

Thanks
You should have done it before the winter, the car just copes so much better under winter conditions.

I would recomend to do the m3 subframebussings as well now that youīll have the rearend more or less taken apart. It makes the rear end so much more planted.
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I was told getting the bushings done at the same time wouldn't really save labor. Thanks for the advice though. Also, the stuff was just delivered about 5 weeks ago, so didn't really ahve a chance to get it installed before winter. I'll post reviews...
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I was told getting the bushings done at the same time wouldn't really save labor. Thanks for the advice though. Also, the stuff was just delivered about 5 weeks ago, so didn't really ahve a chance to get it installed before winter. I'll post reviews...
Itīll save you a great deal of time to do the bushings now when the exhaust and diff is off.
The subframe is suspended in 4 long bolts, loosen them and lover the hole subframe with brakes and all (take of the rear wheels frist and the 2 brakehoses+ handbrake cable) and you are ready to work on it
2 men can lift it with ease, our plan was to use a hydralicpress, but the subframe was too large to go in the press so we had to drill the old ones out, we then used a tool to fit bushing from a Fiat Punto to get the new ones in.
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Now that WI is thawing (at least temporarily) I am finally getting my WaveTrac LSD and Dinan Stage 1 suspension and M3 lower control arms installed this coming Monday. I drop my car off at the shop Sunday night.

Any tips from those with Wavetrac that I should pass on to the shop to avoid problems?

Thanks
hey jdemetry, are you going to put on the rear guide rods ?

http://www.hpashop.com/product.sc?pr...categoryId=176

and

http://www.hpashop.com/product.sc?pr...categoryId=176

or just the toe links:

http://www.hpashop.com/product.sc?pr...categoryId=176

Harold, told me once:

DaFish: M3 rear control arms and toe links - optional?

Harold: If you are not tracking the car, do the guide rod kit only, skip on the upper and lower arms. The aftermarket toe links takes out some of the bind in the rear suspension and will make the rear end track better under hard acceleration and decelleration.


"do the guide rod kit only".... then again, the toe links sound like we should do that with all the power....

Anybody have any suggestions?
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The only M3 bits I have are the front lower control arms (The ones that add -.75degrees of camber). My other chassis mods include Dinan Stage 1 (shocks and springs) and Wavetrac LSD.
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As an update to my install, unfortunaly the car had a couple of issues when I picked it up, so I only was able to drive the car for 20 minutes before I had to drop it back off at the shop. None of the issues were related to the installed parts.
Issues:
1) The first is that some plastic under the hood was damaged by the shop, they are fixing (and paying for the repair, of course)
2) Part of the alternator pulley cracked off. The belt stayed on, but I'm having them repair that, as well.
3) The reason we found both of the above issues is because I heard a strange rubbing/honking noise under the hood under high boost. It is probably a boost leak (although my boost stayed rock solid about 14.5psi-ish), and the shop said they'd torque all my hose clamps while they work on the alternator pulley.

Here's hoping it's all good when I pick it up! This will be almost 2 full weeks without my car and I miss her

Am I getting close to an emoticon record yet?

Any way, I'll write a review after I get the car back and get some wheel time
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As an update to my install, unfortunaly the car had a couple of issues when I picked it up, so I only was able to drive the car for 20 minutes before I had to drop it back off at the shop. None of the issues were related to the installed parts.
Issues:
1) The first is that some plastic under the hood was damaged by the shop, they are fixing (and paying for the repair, of course)
2) Part of the alternator pulley cracked off. The belt stayed on, but I'm having them repair that, as well.
3) The reason we found both of the above issues is because I heard a strange rubbing/honking noise under the hood under high boost. It is probably a boost leak (although my boost stayed rock solid about 14.5psi-ish), and the shop said they'd torque all my hose clamps while they work on the alternator pulley.

Here's hoping it's all good when I pick it up! This will be almost 2 full weeks without my car and I miss her

Am I getting close to an emoticon record yet?

Any way, I'll write a review after I get the car back and get some wheel time
wow, 2 weeks would suck large....

I think you need to find a new shop, I am losing confidence in them just reading this. That is too bad, it could have been a ton worse too.

Really looking foward to the review on the LSD.

I am contemplating the control arms in the rear. I'll search the forum again and see what they say. It will be another grand.... this is getting really expensive now. I can always put those on after I guess and pay for another alignment.... anyway, this is your thread.

Your car will have "transformed" for sure.
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Hey jdemetry, I'm in MKE, too - what shop is doing this work for you?
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Alright... I'm back (and finally so is my car). I have to first start out by correctin my post that the shop damaged my car. It turns out that the broken stuff was my fault. I had forgotton about a run in with a curb that I had thought did no damage. Turns out it pushed my intercooler up and proke the mounts that I mentioned. My car is totally fixed now and my insurance paid for the repairs minus my deductable.

My review will be in another post. I worked with Mraz in Brookfield WI and they were really fantastic after all was said and done. I would still recommend them to anyone looking for special work to be done.
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Suspension:
No drop, far less dip and dive under hard braking/acceleration, virtually no understeer, slightly better steering feel. The ride is "slightly" harsher, but not much at all, and no bucking, even on horrible WI roads. I'll see how the ride is after I get my runflats back on
LSD:
Before I thought my car couldn't handle the power (a couple bolt ons and Procede V5) as it would get squirrely under hard accelleration and WAY too much intervention from the DSC/DTC. Now, the car accelerates hard, and in a straight line, and puts the power down much more smooth (even with the winter tires still on!). I'm going to have to start looking for more power soon Oversteer is much easier to induce now, which I LOVE and have always missed in this car. I have no noises or clunking at all.

I haven't really driven hard yet, but I'll post any updates if my impressions change. LSD FTW!!!!! Dinan Stage 1/M3 lower control arms really blow me away too, unbeliable balance between drivablilty and performance. I'll probably start to put more M3 bits as my suspension wears more, but I only have about 38k miles, so it is in pretty good shape overall.
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Did you get any sway bars?
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I did not get sway bars, did your stage III come with the rear? Now it only comes with the front
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Suspension:
No drop, far less dip and dive under hard braking/acceleration, virtually no understeer, slightly better steering feel. The ride is "slightly" harsher, but not much at all, and no bucking, even on horrible WI roads. I'll see how the ride is after I get my runflats back on
LSD:
Before I thought my car couldn't handle the power (a couple bolt ons and Procede V5) as it would get squirrely under hard accelleration and WAY too much intervention from the DSC/DTC. Now, the car accelerates hard, and in a straight line, and puts the power down much more smooth (even with the winter tires still on!). I'm going to have to start looking for more power soon Oversteer is much easier to induce now, which I LOVE and have always missed in this car. I have no noises or clunking at all.

I haven't really driven hard yet, but I'll post any updates if my impressions change. LSD FTW!!!!! Dinan Stage 1/M3 lower control arms really blow me away too, unbeliable balance between drivablilty and performance. I'll probably start to put more M3 bits as my suspension wears more, but I only have about 38k miles, so it is in pretty good shape overall.
hows the LSD?! i gather you;ve have it for over a year now .. im on the fence about buying one now before winter or waiting till spring.. suggestions?
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hows the LSD?! i gather you;ve have it for over a year now .. im on the fence about buying one now before winter or waiting till spring.. suggestions?
The LSD is an absolute must, but expensive.

You can power out of corners MUCH earlier and that alone is worth it. you can drive with throttle on corner exits. The blowers kick in 3/4 through second and the power and rush is so great ! Do it. Everyone says it transforms the car, and it really does. You don't realize how much you need it until you get one.

When you do the rear end, you drop it, get the subframe, and sway at the same time. it adds a lot of cost, but all in all the right thing to do.

You could do just the LSD, but I think it is a bit short. I did them all at the same time, with the M3 arms, Rogue arms (which I am not sure about now) and then a final alignment - 4 wheel.

I still need larger rims and rubber on the front. I would like to go 255/265 setup but this is a ton of cash for rims and I am already in for too much.

The car still squishes around with all my mods too, and we have a few threads going on this too about the Rogue arms.

That said, the car is WAY WAY better than stock and goes like a rocket with limited wheel spin now. It handles the power.
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The LSD is an absolute must, but expensive.

You can power out of corners MUCH earlier and that alone is worth it. you can drive with throttle on corner exits. The blowers kick in 3/4 through second and the power and rush is so great ! Do it. Everyone says it transforms the car, and it really does. You don't realize how much you need it until you get one.

When you do the rear end, you drop it, get the subframe, and sway at the same time. it adds a lot of cost, but all in all the right thing to do.

You could do just the LSD, but I think it is a bit short. I did them all at the same time, with the M3 arms, Rogue arms (which I am not sure about now) and then a final alignment - 4 wheel.

I still need larger rims and rubber on the front. I would like to go 255/265 setup but this is a ton of cash for rims and I am already in for too much.

The car still squishes around with all my mods too, and we have a few threads going on this too about the Rogue arms.

That said, the car is WAY WAY better than stock and goes like a rocket with limited wheel spin now. It handles the power.
sweet! im convinced! i was jsut going to put my order in but stupid paypal has the send limit unless you give your banking info. cant do that till i get home this evening. lol i dont have a lot of patience when it comes to car mods!
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