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Jason · 03-21-2011, 03:18 PM

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We previously reported that BMW has plans to expand its TwinPower Turbo technology to its entire future 4-cylinder engine range. Word now comes from BMW AG that the future 3-cylinder engine range (gasoline and diesel) will also receive the TwinPower Turbo treatment.

The TwinPower Turbo package combines a single twin-scroll turbocharger, direct injection and full variable valvetronic. It first debuted on the N55 motor in the 5-series GT in 2009 and most recently on the first 4-cylinder motor, with the 2.0L N20 gasoline engine (full N20 details) in the X1 xDrive28i. The use of this technology allows for increased horsepower while decreasing CO2 emissions. As an example, the N20 outputs 245hp compared to just 156hp from the naturally aspirated version.

No timing yet on when the first TwinPower Turbo 3-cylinder engines will debut, but they will likely power future entry-level BMWs such as the expected FWD models. "BMW has said this 3-cylinder unit, part of a modular family which also includes 4-cylinder, gasoline and diesel units will be the company's highest volume engine family, powering up to 1.5 million of the automaker's cars a year by 2014-2015. To put this volume into perspective, the figure is higher than that of the total global sales for BMW, Mini and Rolls-Royce cars last year, which reached 1.46 million units."

Info and reviews about the N20 TwinPower Turbo 4-cylinder motor: http://www.bimmerpost.com/?s=n20

Source: Autonews

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kyleb350 · 03-21-2011, 03:23 PM

Is this basically going to be half of an N55 (1.5L, 150hp)? Would be nice in a tiny car.

Titanflux · 03-21-2011, 04:34 PM

Got the call today- collecting it this Friday! Yippee

Prince_of_Persia · 03-21-2011, 05:19 PM

Yeah, I love my V8 and I am not gonna change it with anything! This way we gonna have a 1 cylinder twin turbo soon!!

pampam · 03-21-2011, 05:44 PM

gief us V8 , V10 and V12 ... no 4 or 3 ...

Cuz5150 · 03-21-2011, 06:01 PM

I hope they keep the 3cyl out of the N America markets.

Serious BMW?!?!? Why not reduce the displacement from 2.0L to 1.8L or 1.6L or 1.4L. That would reduce Co2 and gain fuel efficiency

Z4-VILLA · 03-21-2011, 06:01 PM

this is gonna be weird....

polaxgr · 03-21-2011, 06:17 PM

why all the hating ? for the city its gonna be great...

well electric cars even better...but never the less, its gonna have better efficiency

amdmaxx · 03-21-2011, 06:28 PM

3 cylinder engines are inherently rough..
Let's see what tricks BMW will do to cover that up..

ptack · 03-21-2011, 07:04 PM

I'm surprised they haven't announcing using their motorcycle engines in cars.

Diver · 03-21-2011, 07:32 PM

3 cylinder engines might show up in North America in hybrid drive trains.

Yogijet · 03-21-2011, 08:10 PM

This will be good for BMW re their average fuel economy figures, good for the environment, and very good for people who like cars and love to drive. There will be BMWs at lower price points to allow more buyers to enter bmws at a younger age and buy into the brand and become fanboys&girls for life because they will still be drivers' cars. The biggest plus for car nuts is that they will allow bmw to continue to make powerful drivers' cars for those of us who are stuck on their in-line sixes, and pumped up V8s. Can't really see anything to moan about on this one.

F1 Fanatikko · 03-21-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pampam

gief us V8 , V10 and V12 ... no 4 or 3 ...

agreed

BMWBoss · 03-21-2011, 09:12 PM

I don't really care if they come out with a 3 cylinder...once they feed the M modesl with V8, V10, and maybe even a V12

templarklimek · 03-21-2011, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yogijet

This will be good for BMW re their average fuel economy figures, good for the environment, and very good for people who like cars and love to drive. There will be BMWs at lower price points to allow more buyers to enter bmws at a younger age and buy into the brand and become fanboy&girls for life because they will still be drivers' cars. The biggest plus for car nuts is that they will allow bmw to continue to make powerful drivers' cars for those of us who are stuck on their in-line sixes, and pumped up V8s. Can't really see anything to moan about on this one.

woodpecka · 03-21-2011, 10:40 PM

[quote=Yogijet;9181346]This will be good for BMW re their average fuel economy figures, good for the environment, and very good for people who like cars and love to drive. There will be BMWs at lower price points to allow more buyers to enter bmws at a younger age and buy into the brand and become fanboy

Verbatim · 03-21-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuz5150

Serious BMW?!?!? Why not reduce the displacement from 2.0L to 1.8L or 1.6L or 1.4L. That would reduce Co2 and gain fuel efficiency

Yes and lose power??
This way they are gainin power and efficiency while reducing co2 emissions.

crackberry · 03-21-2011, 11:30 PM

why dont we just go hydrogen? you'd fix your emissions problem rt there

Touring · 03-22-2011, 02:29 AM

The sound of a 3-cylinder is great. I would rather have a 150 hp 3cyl than a 150 hp 4-cylinder. 1,5L 3cyl, 2L 4cyl, 3L 6cyl is a smart concept.

Mu Mu · 03-22-2011, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yogijet

This will be good for BMW re their average fuel economy figures, good for the environment, and very good for people who like cars and love to drive. There will be BMWs at lower price points to allow more buyers to enter bmws at a younger age and buy into the brand and become fanboy&girls for life because they will still be drivers' cars. The biggest plus for car nuts is that they will allow bmw to continue to make powerful drivers' cars for those of us who are stuck on their in-line sixes, and pumped up V8s. Can't really see anything to moan about on this one.

QFT!

KSERGEI-BY · 03-22-2011, 05:03 AM

[quote=woodpecka;9182356]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yogijet

This will be good for BMW re their average fuel economy figures, good for the environment, and very good for people who like cars and love to drive. There will be BMWs at lower price points to allow more buyers to enter bmws at a younger age and buy into the brand and become fanboy

Do u beleive in that ? I mean chipper .. bmw ? Seriously. 3 cil turbo will cost more then 4 cl na just because it is more expencive in production.

Sorry but it will be less drivable more expencive car with with pathetic half of an engine. And good figures on paper.

boom · 03-22-2011, 05:47 AM

There is zero gain and, arguably, negative results in real world testing from a dci.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=491005

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boom could fuck up a rock fight... Drives: 08 e92 335xi Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA Posts: 1,093 iTrader: (0)	There is zero gain and, arguably, negative results in real world testing from a dci. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=491005

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