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      03-25-2011, 04:37 PM   #1
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Bmw Long Crank N52!!

I have a 2006 bmw 330i with 39k miles on it. Car has been driven this winter with no problems until recently. ONLY on cold starts it has a long crank. After that it starts up normal. Its only 37 degrees here and i've started the car in the negatives this winter and always started better than this. Only mods are afe intake and exhaust. Never had a problem with my car. I was thinking MAF is dirty but it starts up normal all day except only in the morning.




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      03-25-2011, 05:51 PM   #2
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http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=501907

Maybe this thread??
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      03-25-2011, 06:00 PM   #3
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my car starts everytime.... i started my car today 5 times and only at 6am it made that long crank. Hopefully its just a bug and will go away with some time resting lol
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Have your fuel pump pressure tested. My 2006 325xi had the long cranks during cold starts. Dealer replaced the MAF sensor and the SES light returned. They eventually put in a new fuel pump and upgraded the software. I recall that a fuel pump defect may not throw a specific code but a more general fuel/air mixture code, 2A2E or 2A2F.

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      03-25-2011, 10:30 PM   #5
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I have no Ses light
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      03-26-2011, 06:17 PM   #6
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Bump need more insight. Anyone think it's fuel pump, spark plugs , maf?? I have an afe intake but I will be putting in my stock
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      03-26-2011, 06:45 PM   #7
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Sounds like your battery is having trouble holding a charge....get a tender and charge your battery every night.

See if it happens in the morning.
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It's a brand new battery less than 3 months old. Starts up normal even after a few hours of rest.
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      03-27-2011, 12:14 AM   #9
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I had a similar issue. Mine turned out to be a bad starter. It got really bad when it was cold out (below 40F). Eventually it stopped working.
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I just started my car It's 30 degrees it was so bad. I have third party warranty would the dealer detect it's the starter? I really don't want to get stuck somewhere. I'm surprised car has less than 40k I wish I had it under warranty.
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The '06s have bad starters. It's a common issue. It will start to grind occasionally as it gets worse. It's about $400 to replace it. The only way to be sure it's the starter is to replace it. The shop can run a number of tests to rule out other components though.
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Hmm if it's a new battery...I'm going with what others have said, starter.

Although I have 63k on my starter, ^no problems here.

When my battery had low voltage, my car would crank slowly in cold weather though, usually the first start of the day or after leaving it for a few hours.
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I'd say just get it diagnosed so you don't waste time and money by taking a stab on what needs fixing. Many things can cause it to have long crank (as everyone above mentioned). mine had a short in the harness that got worst the next day.... gave me SES, brake light etc...


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Yest I decided to use shell v power to see if it made a difference and today my car started up better. It was still cold but It didn't have an extra long crank. I would love to take it to the dealer but they would charge me if they don't find any codes. Only time will tell I just have to wait fit the half engine or it was just bad gas
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Starting well I think it was bad gas!
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what octane were u using before switching to shell v power?
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Always 93 but I honestly believe I think I put 89 not paying attention. It's still starting good so fingers crossed
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That doesnt sound overly long-mine takes longer when its cold and when warm goes back to normal. I wouldnt worry about it
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Always 93 but I honestly believe I think I put 89 not paying attention. It's still starting good so fingers crossed
89 will not damage your motor. If your having a long start you need to check 3 things, fuel, spark, and timing (which should be handled by the DME).

IE check your spark plugs and coils. Have your DME read to see if you are having a misfire on one of your cylinders.
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89 will not damage your motor. If your having a long start you need to check 3 things, fuel, spark, and timing (which should be handled by the DME).

IE check your spark plugs and coils. Have your DME read to see if you are having a misfire on one of your cylinders.
This doesn't make sense if the OPs engine runs fine after starting.....it's either the battery or the starter.

Even though you got a new battery, that doesn't mean it's fine. Short distance driving will keep your battery at a low charge.....our cars charge the battery when the rpms are held above 1500rpms.

Measure the voltage across the positive and negative posts on the battery....it should sit around 12.6v.

I had a new braille installed (Programmed as 70Ah AGM, then registered) and I was getting slow cranks, on the first start up of the day. Temp around 30-40 degrees. Had it on a tender while I was away for vacation for a week and I haven't had a slow crank since. Same temps.

The braille also has 550 CCA rating compared to my stock battery at 900 CCAs.
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