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      05-07-2011, 10:44 AM   #23
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2 fill ups today

my 335i, £87 of v power, for 376 miles. About the best i can get out of a tank - 28.9mpg

wifes x3 3.0i, £80 of sainsburys for 225 miles - 17.6 mpg. bollocks.
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      05-07-2011, 11:02 AM   #24
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i get more out of my 335d?!? is there something wrong with your car or do you redline every gear?
I thought initially there was something wrong but the dealers have been through it all and can't find anything. I think the biggest problem is the Auto gear box.

Dobbo - I'm assuming yours is a manual? Mine is a 2010 10 Plate LCI 318D Auto
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      05-07-2011, 11:10 AM   #25
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I thought initially there was something wrong but the dealers have been through it all and can't find anything. I think the biggest problem is the Auto gear box.

Dobbo - I'm assuming yours is a manual? Mine is a 2010 10 Plate LCI 318D Auto
Yeah, I'm manual
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      05-07-2011, 01:49 PM   #26
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Presume that was on a motorway?!

I can't get any more than about 550 miles out of a tank on my 318D, with average of about 380-450 and about 36mpg!
I thought I was bad, Just back from Scotland, 370 mile trip average speed 78.2mph and 44.6 mpg in the 318D. Think the speedo is broken as it was bank holiday Monday
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      05-07-2011, 04:20 PM   #27
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lol this is quite a funny thread. I was really impressed how fuel efficient the 335i is for such a powerful engine

However if we're talking eco warrior numbers, I can brim my car for £55 and that does me around 580 miles. Not bad for a 3k shitter oh and the road tax is £35 a year.
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      05-07-2011, 04:29 PM   #28
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Yep standard Friday morning keeping up with traffic but not exceeding 70mph.. way home 5pm was stop start between A3 and M40 so that hurt the average.

Be good to see if I can get 500 miles out of the tank, best upto now is 450miles without trying too hard, ps mine is a manual.

Just took some pics..

Thats unreal. I cant get anywhere close to that in mine.

Can I ask what the average speed reads for 38mpg in your car?

I get 18 mpg with an average speed of 21.5 mph.

How do you get 38mpg, cruise control? what kinda speeds? are you manual or auto?

I'm trying to figure out why I cant get better than 18. I want to get 38 too
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      05-07-2011, 05:14 PM   #29
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....As soon as I get a bit heavy and let it rev above 2k, that drops to mid 40's.
Boring!!!
FFS why bother living. Buy an electric wheelchair for more excitement instead, or just cut your wrists now.
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      05-07-2011, 05:22 PM   #30
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Thats unreal. I cant get anywhere close to that in mine.

Can I ask what the average speed reads for 38mpg in your car?

I get 18 mpg with an average speed of 21.5 mph.

How do you get 38mpg, cruise control? what kinda speeds? are you manual or auto?

I'm trying to figure out why I cant get better than 18. I want to get 38 too
Dr G, I'm with you.

Don't know how phil does it. Even on quiet M6 today with wife and sleeping todder, 75mph max and super gentle inputs only gave 29mpg on 40 miles of motorway.

Maybe phil's engine has been stolen and replaced with a hyundai 800cc triple?
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Dr G, I'm with you.

Don't know how phil does it. Even on quiet M6 today with wife and sleeping todder, 75mph max and super gentle inputs only gave 29mpg on 40 miles of motorway.

Maybe phil's engine has been stolen and replaced with a hyundai 800cc triple?
The more I read these threads with people with 335i's doing 30-40+ mpg the more I think something is wrong with my car.

I do keep her in DS most of the time and its all city use no motorways for me.

I can only assume those who get such high figures live on a motorway somewhere
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      05-07-2011, 05:42 PM   #32
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When I had my RX-8 I remember there was an ongoing thread for the "300 mile club". I didn't come close, the fuel light usually came on at 200. Quite scary given that the fuel tank was the same size as the 3.
Lol, thats really bad. I do much better than that in my 400whp FD if im out of the boost, but I have my cruise afr's leaned out into mid 14's down low and low 16's everything above about 2500rpm, helps keep the plugs cleaner alot longer as a bonus. They must have those Renesis engines running pretty rich.
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They must have those Renesis engines running pretty rich.
They definitely run very rich when they're cold - it's basically the cause of the flooding problems. When it's stone cold it even pumps air into the exhaust manifold, anti-lag style, to help burn off the excess fuel to warm up the cat (somewhat less elegant than the 335i's retarded ignition method).

The other factor was the short gearing and the necessity to rev the thing - pretty much nothing below about 4500 and the real power only came in at above 7000. 9000+ in a tunnel was fun though.
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      05-08-2011, 01:24 AM   #34
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Lol, thats really bad. I do much better than that in my 400whp FD if im out of the boost, but I have my cruise afr's leaned out into mid 14's down low and low 16's everything above about 2500rpm, helps keep the plugs cleaner alot longer as a bonus. They must have those Renesis engines running pretty rich.
Uk gallon is 4.5L, US gallon is 3.7L so even worse.

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      05-08-2011, 02:22 AM   #35
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How? Car is manual, I didn't use cruise and had the a/c turned off.

By necessity I drove 7miles to petrol station filled up (95RON) and OBC rezero'd. So the car was warm right from the start.. I think this makes a huge difference.

I have a JB4 fitted so may be the extra torque made some difference?!

I don't drive like this all the time but do tend to read the road and predict slowing traffic etc. I try to touch the throttle and brake as little as possible! I find driving like this a challenge and a slight diversion from the congestion, plus no one is getting there any quicker..
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      05-08-2011, 02:35 AM   #36
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Obc average speed is 46.5mph - I do mainly motorway or A road driving.

I try to use it less at weekends as I have an old landrover which gets little use. Doing this saves about 4000miles per year on the Beemer.

I can vouch for it not being an 800cc Hyundai engine, with the Jb4 the torque in 6th from 70mph is absolutely awesome and that's only map 1. Can't wait to get my dp's and ets fmic on, wonder if that'll hurt fuel economy
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The more I read these threads with people with 335i's doing 30-40+ mpg the more I think something is wrong with my car.

I do keep her in DS most of the time and its all city use no motorways for me.

I can only assume those who get such high figures live on a motorway somewhere
Sort of answers most of the reason you are low.

I had an E92 335i auto for a morming and even after giving it some testing, the mpg was showing over 30mpg when I returned to the garage. I had a few miles on the A9 on the return leg and had to drive with the flow at about 55mph and that brought the figure back up very quickly, so I can see 35+ being easy to get, driving moderately.

My E39 540i touring with its 4.4 litre engine would easily return 30 mpg on a free running trip, keeping to the speed limits. City driving, well that's another story.

Most of the low/poor mpg issues are influenced by the driver and driving conditions.

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      05-08-2011, 12:43 PM   #38
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Can't wait to get my dp's and ets fmic on, wonder if that'll hurt fuel economy
DP's help MPG

I'm getting around 400 miles with most tanks with mainly taking it easy driving with the kids in the car although it does get its fair share of WOT too.

I agree with phil on giving the car a warm up then resetting. Thats how I hit 42mpg over a 150 odd mile journey before. I'd driven 5 miles before filling and resetting. Starting from cold does kill it rapidly!

With the school run and some mixed driving I seem to be getting about 31mpg on average. Worst was 26mpg during the snow. I live in the country though so little city driving.

500 is def attainable but only if you are prepared for the boredom/challenge
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      05-09-2011, 05:08 AM   #39
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I agree with phil on giving the car a warm up then resetting. Thats how I hit 42mpg over a 150 odd mile journey before. I'd driven 5 miles before filling and resetting. Starting from cold does kill it rapidly!
Including mpg from cold starts definitely impinges on any average mpg figures.

I've run some experiments and got figures on cold starts at different ambient temperatures, it is quite revealing. Takes a lot of miles to get up to your average as well. According to conditions, a cold start can take up to 60 miles to be absorbed into you long term average.

As an example; Re-setting the OBC and reading the figure at the same distance. Figures when I get to the next village road junction, (3-miles). I can mimic conditions/speed quite easily:

BMW 540i

Cold start around 0°C; OBC read 17-18 mpg.
Cold start approx’ 10°C; OBC read 20-21 mpg.
Hot start at approx, 10°C; OBC read 26-27 mpg.

BMW 330d

Cold start around 0°C; OBC read 25-26 mpg.
Cold start approx’ 10°C; OBC read 29-30 mpg.
Warm start approx’ 10°C; OBC read 34-35 mpg.
Hot start at approx, 10°C; OBC read 37-38 mpg.

I'm running an experiment today, in the 330d, (school run day for the grandsons). So a lot of short runs, 3-miles maximum in one go and inefficient driving. My long term average is 37mpg, after the first stage with two school stops and back home I'm at 29.7 mpg on the OBC, after 6.9 miles.

I'll post the average for today's consumption after finished the school runs.

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      05-10-2011, 02:18 AM   #40
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Well would you believe it....she's been driving the car and has returned 380miles with an average of 36.1 mpg. The reserve light has just come on as well...so that means close to the 450 club!!!!
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I had an EP3 civic Type R about 5 years ago and it got around 230 miles from a tank driving in a casual fashion!! It got as low as 170miles between fill ups if I was driving it as it was intended!
Aye, but the tank in an EP3 civic only holds like 36L or something. I averaged 34mpg out of mine driving it like a nutter on country roads.

CHG, my 06 318D manual averaged 48.5mpg (for some reason the e90 always read .5 never a round number) with mixture of town and motorway with good Scottish hills and head winds to deal with. I would think there is something wrong with your car being under 40 with the newer more efficient engine. Auto should only make 5mpg difference at the most.

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How? Car is manual, I didn't use cruise and had the a/c turned off.

By necessity I drove 7miles to petrol station filled up (95RON) and OBC rezero'd. So the car was warm right from the start.. I think this makes a huge difference.

I have a JB4 fitted so may be the extra torque made some difference?!

I don't drive like this all the time but do tend to read the road and predict slowing traffic etc. I try to touch the throttle and brake as little as possible! I find driving like this a challenge and a slight diversion from the congestion, plus no one is getting there any quicker..
I agree with you Phil, the key is to anticipate!!!!

Well I can get around 450-500 miles with a steady 75mph.
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I'll post the average for today's consumption after finished the school runs.
School runs finished at lunchtime today, 28.2mpg showing for 20.8 miles. Now it's going to take some miles to get back up to my long term average of 37mpg, let alone the long run 45+ mpg figures, with a 600 mile range.

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When I had my RX-8 I remember there was an ongoing thread for the "300 mile club". I didn't come close, the fuel light usually came on at 200. Quite scary given that the fuel tank was the same size as the 3.

Fuel light came on on my rx8 after 116 miles on the day I took it on track with Prodrive!
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