How does my E90 323i compare with A4 2.0T Quattro? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

stevensonleehk · 05-08-2011, 07:17 PM

Just wanted some advice.

Have been thinking about changing cars again and was wondering how my E90 323i (w/ BMS powerbox set at "2" most of the time) compare with the Audi A4 2.0T Quattro.

Can I assume that handling should be around the same when compared with quattro? I should think that A4 FWD will not be as good when it comes to handling, but overall am I right in assuming that the ride quality will be better in the A4? All the potholes in HK is making my BMW a less desirable experience.

ny911 · 05-08-2011, 09:05 PM

You wouldn't know what handling is on any Audis,but Audi should be faster than a BMW on straights. Light/no steering feel is still the main problem of Audi no matter it is a FWD or AWD or even a S/RS.

trekker · 05-08-2011, 09:57 PM

You're comparing a turbo car with an NA car here.

RR80 · 05-08-2011, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by trekker

You're comparing a turbo car with an NA car here.

That's right! I can say the B8 2.0T AWD is better than your 323 even with your BMS tune there. But it's not fair for the compare. Also the 2.0T is way more mod friendly, 50hp+ only with the MTM or APR tune.

stevensonleehk · 05-09-2011, 12:18 AM

I don't think its an unfair comparison 'cos I'm looking at it purely from a cost perspective. Its in the same price range and having driven my 323i for a couple of years, I've been thinking about swapping.

Has anyone driven the A4 2.0T Avant? I've been thinking of getting a wagon and just want to see if there are any comments out there.

stevensonleehk · 05-09-2011, 12:22 AM

$398,000 HKD

Sounds like a good deal?

ny911 · 05-09-2011, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stevensonleehk

$398,000 HKD

Sounds like a good deal?

Try to find a private sale.

3.2Q has extremely poor resell value,therefore the used price should be low.

mugen_ferio · 05-09-2011, 10:44 AM

I really hate the A4's lack of steering feel. It feels like I'm playing Wii.

JohnMan · 05-14-2011, 02:04 AM

From my experience, Audi, like the other VWs, has better low-end torque then BMWs, so the initial acceleration would be faster then a BMW, but given a long enough straight, a BMW will overtake the Audi, once the high-end revs of the bimmer kicks in, then the BMW will really go.

But if you are talking about overall roadholding and handling, a BMW still beats an Audi, although the distance between them in this performance aspect is getting closer because of Audi's quattro. Still, for now, if driving enjoyment is the priority, I would choose a BMW 3 series. An A4 would be my second choice, it's a great car, handling-wise, but still not quite as good as a 3 series.

william_cwl · 05-14-2011, 11:03 AM

Why don't u just book a test drive and see how u like it
I'm sure the sales will be more than willing to offer u a test-drive ESP on weekdays

NL684 · 05-15-2011, 12:38 AM

as i know, the current 2.0 TFSI engine is good for fuel efficient and performance.....don't pick those 3.2V6 as it is a fuel monaster......

so the best combination is 2.0T + quattro

studie · 05-20-2011, 10:35 PM

3.2 is no good. Your better off with the 2.0 and software upgrade what not.

akhter · 05-21-2011, 07:20 PM

I test drove the 2.0 quattro with DSG and the turbo lag and lack of steering feel forced me to get a BMW again (325i).

I wanted to like the Audi but just couldn't. It sure is a pretty car though

05-08-2011, 07:17 PM	#1
stevensonleehk Private First Class Drives: E90 323i Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 123 iTrader: (0)	How does my E90 323i compare with A4 2.0T Quattro? Just wanted some advice. Have been thinking about changing cars again and was wondering how my E90 323i (w/ BMS powerbox set at "2" most of the time) compare with the Audi A4 2.0T Quattro. Can I assume that handling should be around the same when compared with quattro? I should think that A4 FWD will not be as good when it comes to handling, but overall am I right in assuming that the ride quality will be better in the A4? All the potholes in HK is making my BMW a less desirable experience.
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05-09-2011, 10:44 AM	#8
mugen_ferio First Lieutenant Drives: E90 328i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: HK for school.. Posts: 310 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 E90 328i [0.00]	I really hate the A4's lack of steering feel. It feels like I'm playing Wii. __________________ 2007 Sparkling Graphite E90 328i Sport Package/Bluetooth/Steptronic Mods: 35% FormulaOne Pinnacle tint/Nokya 2500K fogs/smoked amber overlays/blacklines/matte black grill/CF mirrors, splitters, m-tech style spoiler/CF wrapped interior/rear fogs/MFD scoops/RD V2 Angel Eyes

05-14-2011, 11:03 AM	#10
william_cwl Second Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E91 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: HK Posts: 210 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E91 323 [0.00]	Why don't u just book a test drive and see how u like it I'm sure the sales will be more than willing to offer u a test-drive ESP on weekdays __________________

05-15-2011, 12:38 AM	#11
NL684 S54B32 Drives: No car Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 155 iTrader: (0)	as i know, the current 2.0 TFSI engine is good for fuel efficient and performance.....don't pick those 3.2V6 as it is a fuel monaster...... so the best combination is 2.0T + quattro __________________ Sold: - 2008 E93 325i - 2010 E92 335i LCI - 2006 E46 M3 Cab SMG2

05-21-2011, 07:20 PM	#13
akhter Major Drives: 325i LCI e90 (Space Gray) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,082 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i M Sport E90 [5.00]	I test drove the 2.0 quattro with DSG and the turbo lag and lack of steering feel forced me to get a BMW again (325i). I wanted to like the Audi but just couldn't. It sure is a pretty car though __________________ 2010 E90 LCI 325i (Hong Kong) Sold E90 335i M Sport (Tokyo) Sold E36 328i (NYC)

05-08-2011, 09:05 PM	#2
ny911 Captain Drives: Z4 3.0si Coupe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 622 iTrader: (0)	You wouldn't know what handling is on any Audis,but Audi should be faster than a BMW on straights. Light/no steering feel is still the main problem of Audi no matter it is a FWD or AWD or even a S/RS.

05-08-2011, 09:57 PM	#3
trekker Private First Class Drives: e90LCI Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: HONG KONG Posts: 117 iTrader: (0)	You're comparing a turbo car with an NA car here.

05-09-2011, 12:18 AM	#5
stevensonleehk Private First Class Drives: E90 323i Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 123 iTrader: (0)	I don't think its an unfair comparison 'cos I'm looking at it purely from a cost perspective. Its in the same price range and having driven my 323i for a couple of years, I've been thinking about swapping. Has anyone driven the A4 2.0T Avant? I've been thinking of getting a wagon and just want to see if there are any comments out there.

05-09-2011, 12:22 AM	#6
stevensonleehk Private First Class Drives: E90 323i Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 123 iTrader: (0)	$398,000 HKD Sounds like a good deal?

05-14-2011, 02:04 AM	#9
JohnMan Lieutenant Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 424 iTrader: (0)	From my experience, Audi, like the other VWs, has better low-end torque then BMWs, so the initial acceleration would be faster then a BMW, but given a long enough straight, a BMW will overtake the Audi, once the high-end revs of the bimmer kicks in, then the BMW will really go. But if you are talking about overall roadholding and handling, a BMW still beats an Audi, although the distance between them in this performance aspect is getting closer because of Audi's quattro. Still, for now, if driving enjoyment is the priority, I would choose a BMW 3 series. An A4 would be my second choice, it's a great car, handling-wise, but still not quite as good as a 3 series.

05-20-2011, 10:35 PM	#12
studie Banned Drives: E90 335i, 328i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: 416.604.852 Posts: 211 iTrader: (1)	3.2 is no good. Your better off with the 2.0 and software upgrade what not.

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