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hl0m4n · 03-26-2007, 08:36 PM

i am 17 with a 335i coupe living in ny state with a junior license. i was driving back from a friend's house around 3:45 am. driving down the street to make the turn into my street i noticed a cop right be hind me following. as soon as i turn into my street the cop puts his spot light on me and lights are on. i pull over and roll down the window.

officer comes over and asks...license and registration please...and i politely ask what did i do wrong? he says im pulling you over for driving with your fog lights and i was like WHAT?!?!? when seriously they were off lol. the conversation went on he went back to his car checked insurance, etc and asked me what is the other license you have in your wallet. i showed him my permit which i also carried with me along with my junior driver's license.

he explained to me i wasn't supposed to drive after 9pm. i didn't know this as i was driving out of state and whenever when i had my permit anyhow. so the conversation went on and the cop tells me i am not allowed to carry more then one identification on me and i could get a ticket for it. is this true b/c the cop took my permit and never gave it back. the end result was nothing, no charges, etc as he let me go.

my question was the officer right about the more then 1 identity issue and did he have the right to keep my permit? what happens to my permit is it posted in the police station or something so if i get caught again i am in serious stuff or just a one time thing?

help please thank you.

Refujeet · 03-26-2007, 08:42 PM

I had a police officer take my junior license as well. This was in Canada (London, Ontario), so it may be different rules. His reason was that as soon as you are issued a new license, your old one is expired and therefore should be destroyed.

Ryan@Motorwerks · 03-26-2007, 08:46 PM

Ya the officer was right, technically you're only supposed to have one valid ID at anytime.

teknochild · 03-26-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 335e90

Ya the officer was right, technically you're only supposed to have one valid ID at anytime.

huh? thats crap i can carry a state id and my license/ passport or anything else for that matter if i want...

what is a junior permit? in florida you have one license, if its a learners permit it says so, you dont get two licenses, i dont get it

010101 · 03-26-2007, 08:57 PM

How are you supposed to open a bank account at washington mutual? have someone follow you with your second id? what about driving yourself to the airport for an international flight? I've never heard of this law. Is it just for multiple drivers licenses?

RaptorKTM · 03-26-2007, 08:59 PM

next time just pull your license out before the cop can get on top of you can see what your doing.

zamboni · 03-26-2007, 09:00 PM

If you are under 18 in CA you can't operate a vehicle from 11PM til 6AM not sure in NY.

Ryan@Motorwerks · 03-26-2007, 09:00 PM

I meant second drivers license, sorry for the confusion.

GotAlottaCash · 03-26-2007, 09:02 PM

im not sure, but when i went to get my license they just took my permit..i didnt care. i have the state i.d. card. your allowed to have that..
anyways your not allowed to have your fog lights on?!? wtf

RaptorKTM · 03-26-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by zamboni

If you are under 18 in CA you can't operate a vehicle from 11PM til 6AM not sure in NY.

thats bull. The law is that for the first year of having your license so lets say your 16. from 16-17 years old or 1 year of having your license you may not transport passengers at all unless someone 25 or older is in the car and you may not drive between 5am-11pm. But after that your free to do what you want.

DaveStinsman · 03-26-2007, 09:06 PM

They don't mean 1 form of ID. They mean 1 form of a license. In PA you are limited to when you can drive with a Cinderella license. You also have to have so many documented hour of driving with an adult. Totally changed from when I got mine.

teknochild · 03-26-2007, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRS4

thats bull. The law is that for the first year of having your license so lets say your 16. from 16-17 years old or 1 year of having your license you may not transport passengers at all unless someone 25 or older is in the car and you may not drive between 5am-11pm. But after that your free to do what you want.

there are restriciton in florida until your 18 aswell

i think @ 15 you have to have an adult in the driver seat, 16 its like 10-8 you cant drive 17 is like 11-6 or something.. then 18 your free!

FirstClass · 03-26-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRS4

thats bull. The law is that for the first year of having your license so lets say your 16. from 16-17 years old or 1 year of having your license you may not transport passengers at all unless someone 25 or older is in the car and you may not drive between 5am-11pm. But after that your free to do what you want.

It's not bull in PA, anyone under 18 is restricted to before 11pm. Unless you took drivers ed, then you get your senior license at 17.5.

RaptorKTM · 03-26-2007, 09:12 PM

Read it for yourself then. Thats the back of my bros license. He is 17 years old

Let me type it as well incase its hard to read.

47. First 12 Months of licensure may not transport passengers under age 20 and may not drive between the hours of 11:00PM and 5:00 AM without parent/Other Driver as specified in section 12814.6 CVC

59. Provisional Licensee

03-26-2007, 09:15 PM

LOL, I'm sure the cop was just being prejudiced, but like him/her, I want to know how you can afford a 335i at 17 yrs old ;-)

RaptorKTM · 03-26-2007, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstClass

It's not bull in PA, anyone under 18 is restricted to before 11pm. Unless you took drivers ed, then you get your senior license at 17.5.

i didnt say PA, i said CA

just4kickz · 03-26-2007, 09:22 PM

What is a junior license?

I'm 19 and I still have that same license as SoCalRS4's bro... Don't you get issued another one when your 21? or something? I don't remember.

FirstClass · 03-26-2007, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRS4

i didnt say PA, i said CA

Never said you did. Just sharing our un-fun rules.

hl0m4n · 03-26-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JameB

LOL, I'm sure the cop was just being prejudiced, but like him/her, I want to know how you can afford a 335i at 17 yrs old ;-)

i am one lucky child...

amazing car though

quick q...since the officer took my permit and i got no ticket , etc is that a done deal that night or will he like post it in the station and keep me and my car in memory?

335icopeman · 03-26-2007, 11:14 PM

DAS WUS UP.

scottwww · 03-26-2007, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hl0m4n

i am one lucky child...

amazing car though

quick q...since the officer took my permit and i got no ticket , etc is that a done deal that night or will he like post it in the station and keep me and my car in memory?

I doubt that he will do anything with the permit but discard it. If you pissed him off he might remember you next time he sees you driving. Still, if he can see your young mug in the driver's side window he and other police might take notice. It just comes with the territory. Profiling is not necessarily planned, but it is reality.

jonerik26 · 03-26-2007, 11:27 PM

sounds like a load of crap their just trying to make it seem like his stopping you was legal......but what do i know i'm not the one with the shiny badge...

03-26-2007, 08:36 PM	#1
hl0m4n Brigadier General Drives: BMW Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NY Posts: 4,759 iTrader: (35)	Is This Right For Police To... i am 17 with a 335i coupe living in ny state with a junior license. i was driving back from a friend's house around 3:45 am. driving down the street to make the turn into my street i noticed a cop right be hind me following. as soon as i turn into my street the cop puts his spot light on me and lights are on. i pull over and roll down the window. officer comes over and asks...license and registration please...and i politely ask what did i do wrong? he says im pulling you over for driving with your fog lights and i was like WHAT?!?!? when seriously they were off lol. the conversation went on he went back to his car checked insurance, etc and asked me what is the other license you have in your wallet. i showed him my permit which i also carried with me along with my junior driver's license. he explained to me i wasn't supposed to drive after 9pm. i didn't know this as i was driving out of state and whenever when i had my permit anyhow. so the conversation went on and the cop tells me i am not allowed to carry more then one identification on me and i could get a ticket for it. is this true b/c the cop took my permit and never gave it back. the end result was nothing, no charges, etc as he let me go. my question was the officer right about the more then 1 identity issue and did he have the right to keep my permit? what happens to my permit is it posted in the police station or something so if i get caught again i am in serious stuff or just a one time thing? help please thank you.
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03-26-2007, 08:42 PM	#2
Refujeet Private First Class Drives: E92 335xi Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 181 iTrader: (0)	I had a police officer take my junior license as well. This was in Canada (London, Ontario), so it may be different rules. His reason was that as soon as you are issued a new license, your old one is expired and therefore should be destroyed. __________________ 2011 E92 335xi - Exec - Nav - M-Sport - 6-Speed 2011 Range Rover Sport Supercharged (Sold) 2008 E92 335xi - Premium - Sports - Nav - Sound - PDC - 6-Speed (Sold) 2006 E60 530i - Premium - M-Sport - Nav

03-26-2007, 09:00 PM	#7
zamboni I want to drive a Zamboni Drives: 09 E82 128i 13 E93 M3 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Monte Sereno, CA Posts: 2,467 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00] 2006 325i [0.00]	If you are under 18 in CA you can't operate a vehicle from 11PM til 6AM not sure in NY. __________________ 13 E93 M3 Melbourne Red DCT/Premium/EDC/NAV/220M wheel 12 E93 Space Gray ( Retired BMW buy back ) 09 E82 Space Gray/Black int/Steps/Sport/Nav/Premium/Xenon/Phone Int/Hifi/269 wheel 2006 E90 ( sold ) My next vehicle would be a Zamboni

03-26-2007, 09:22 PM	#17
just4kickz boku no namae ha... Drives: 2006 BS 330i Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: S. Bay Area, CA + Newark, NJ Posts: 10,586 iTrader: (11) Garage List 2006 E90 330i [0.00]	What is a junior license? I'm 19 and I still have that same license as SoCalRS4's bro... Don't you get issued another one when your 21? or something? I don't remember. __________________ looking for a PreLCI Black Sapphire e90 front bumper without license plate holes "Akimbo shotguns. Broken wrists anyone? And don't give me that 'it's just a game' bull**. Where the are my akimbo interventions then?! One scope on each eye mother**er!!"

03-26-2007, 11:27 PM	#22
jonerik26 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: black 335i e90 PRE-LCI Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: somewhere Posts: 1,861 iTrader: (21) Garage List 2007 335i [4.00] 1998 Acura Integra [4.25] 2006 325i [4.00]	sounds like a load of crap their just trying to make it seem like his stopping you was legal......but what do i know i'm not the one with the shiny badge... __________________

03-26-2007, 08:46 PM	#3
Ryan@Motorwerks Captain Drives: 335i Coupe Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 941 iTrader: (0)	Ya the officer was right, technically you're only supposed to have one valid ID at anytime.

03-26-2007, 08:57 PM	#5
010101 Lieutenant Drives: still deciding what to order Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: los angeles Posts: 423 iTrader: (0)	How are you supposed to open a bank account at washington mutual? have someone follow you with your second id? what about driving yourself to the airport for an international flight? I've never heard of this law. Is it just for multiple drivers licenses?

03-26-2007, 08:59 PM	#6
RaptorKTM Colonel Drives: 1 M Coupe Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,366 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW 1 M [0.00]	next time just pull your license out before the cop can get on top of you can see what your doing.

03-26-2007, 09:02 PM	#9
GotAlottaCash Lieutenant Drives: E92 335i/ 08' 528i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 540 iTrader: (4)	im not sure, but when i went to get my license they just took my permit..i didnt care. i have the state i.d. card. your allowed to have that.. anyways your not allowed to have your fog lights on?!? wtf

03-26-2007, 09:06 PM	#11
DaveStinsman Private First Class Drives: 2003 Tiburon Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: PA Posts: 147 iTrader: (0)	They don't mean 1 form of ID. They mean 1 form of a license. In PA you are limited to when you can drive with a Cinderella license. You also have to have so many documented hour of driving with an adult. Totally changed from when I got mine.

03-26-2007, 09:12 PM	#14
RaptorKTM Colonel Drives: 1 M Coupe Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,366 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW 1 M [0.00]	Read it for yourself then. Thats the back of my bros license. He is 17 years old Let me type it as well incase its hard to read. 47. First 12 Months of licensure may not transport passengers under age 20 and may not drive between the hours of 11:00PM and 5:00 AM without parent/Other Driver as specified in section 12814.6 CVC 59. Provisional Licensee

03-26-2007, 09:15 PM	#15
JameB Guest Drives: Posts: n/a	LOL, I'm sure the cop was just being prejudiced, but like him/her, I want to know how you can afford a 335i at 17 yrs old ;-)

03-26-2007, 11:14 PM	#20
335icopeman Captain Drives: 335i Coupe MonacoBlue/Black/AL Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: LA, Tucson Posts: 928 iTrader: (3)	DAS WUS UP.

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