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      05-23-2011, 07:54 PM   #23
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Just because he's in a wheelchair doesn't mean he is innocent. That man could have had a knife on him. He clearly resisted so the cops have the right to protect themselves, the public and even the guy in the wheelchair by taking him down.

The comments on YouTube are hilarious. "Hang the pigs" and "this is why I don't cry when police get shot" and such. Try being a cop in a high-crime area and see if you feel the same way.
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But in a case like this, they lifted him up and smashed him face-first into the pavement. As soon as they had him lifted up by both arms they had the guy, that's an end of discussion. He's paralyzed from the waist down and now also doesn't have mobility in his upper arms. Why was there a need to go directly from resisting-arrest to face-smashing him against concrete?
What would you have said if they had gotten him out of the wheel chair ,by his hands/arms, and somehow he was able to push himself loose and fall 6 feet to the ground, unable to catch himself, and fell on his head?

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Just because he's in a wheelchair doesn't mean he is innocent. That man could have had a knife on him. He clearly resisted so the cops have the right to protect themselves, the public and even the guy in the wheelchair by taking him down.

The comments on YouTube are hilarious. "Hang the pigs" and "this is why I don't cry when police get shot" and such. Try being a cop in a high-crime area and see if you feel the same way.
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Aren't there more moderate methods to subdue someone like rubber bullets?
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If you have any sense... not retarded... you would know you can't win, get away.
1. Your out numbered
2. They have the tools to put you down...
3. Even if #1 and 2 weren't the case... (at least for me) they would still be able to beat you down.
4. They can use any of the above if they feel it's necessary

Your basically at the cop's mercy physically. They have many means to make anyone their bitch and you only have your brain to defend yourself. Why anyone would physically go against a cop is beyond me...

I don't agree with police using excessive force though... I think it was the case in the video. Especially the second one. But then again... he swung a knife? threw a knife... so I don't know. Taser would have been more appropriate... but they already had their guns drawn. With all the guns that were pointed at the guy, some should have been tasers.

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If you have any sense... not retarded... you would know you can't win, get away.
1. Your out numbered
2. They have the tools to put you down...
3. Even if #1 and 2 weren't the case... (at least for me) they would still be able to beat you down.
4. They can use any of the above if they feel it's necessary

Your basically at the cop's mercy physically. They have many means to make anyone their bitch and you only have your brain to defend yourself. Why anyone would physically go against a cop is beyond me...

I don't agree with police using excessive force though... I think it was the case in the video. Especially the second one. But then again... he swung a knife? threw a knife... so I don't know. Taser would have been more appropriate... but they already had their guns drawn. With all the guns that were pointed at the guy, some should have been tasers.

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What would you have said if they had gotten him out of the wheel chair ,by his hands/arms, and somehow he was able to push himself loose and fall 6 feet to the ground, unable to catch himself, and fell on his head?
Falling down when you're standing doesn't hurt that much. As for the comment about whether or not he might've fallen and hit his head, I'd reason that it'd hurt much less than two cops smashing your face into pavement.

I get the reason why the cops had to cuff him and subdue him. I just don't agree with seeing a handicapped man's face bleeding all over the pavement to do it. He's handicapped for goodness sakes. I don't disagree with the part that force was needed to arrest him after he resisted, but surely we can all agree that was excessive force.
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Yep. I don't blame them, they did what they had to do, but really, is that all they could do against a guy in a wheel chair? or criminal in a wheel chair for that matter.
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We have have them, but they dont end up on youtube because they do their job properly and by the book.
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Maybe it's just me but, I think an officer needs to take special care with those that are physically impaired. Mentally impaired, however, is a different situation.
A cop a few cities over from me was responding to a call involving a mentally impaired individual. All the cops knew the person and was known to have issues with cops and got out of line every now and again.

The officer showed up intending to use special care with the situation. The mentally impaired person had a gun and shot and killed the officer.

THE COP IS DEAD FOR USING SPECIAL CARE! fuck the handicapped guy. Don't be a too big of a dick to cops /thread!

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A cop a few cities over from me was responding to a call involving a mentally impaired individual. All the cops knew the person and was known to have issues with cops and got out of line every now and again.

The officer showed up intending to use special care with the situation. The mentally impaired person had a gun and shot and killed the officer.

THE COP IS DEAD FOR USING SPECIAL CARE! fuck the handicapped guy. Don't be a too big of a dick to cops /thread!

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Which is why in my post I said that if he were mentally impaired then it'd be a different situation. Take special care with the physically impaired. I don't give a shit about the mentally impaired because they have full access to do crazy stunts like killing people.
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Just because a guy is in a wheel chair on a street DOESNT mean he is handicapped. If a person has a weapon a cop has full right to use force. Would you want a bunch of pussies to scared to do anything "protecting" us?

What have we learned for this thread?
If you are a cripple, dont try and fight a bunch of cops
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I see lazy bums in wheelchairs all the time around here. Simply being in a wheelchair does NOT mean you are of no danger to the cops and does not confirm that you have limited use of your lower extremities.... I can't believe people have sympathy for this guy. Hell, even if he IS a parapalegic, he's a fucking moron for resisting.

If you throw steaks at a grizzly, prepare to get fucked. If you resist arrest, prepare to deal with the "escalation of force". It's that fucking simple, people. Don't fault the cops for the "victim" being a complete douchebag.

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Which is why in my post I said that if he were mentally impaired then it'd be a different situation. Take special care with the physically impaired. I don't give a shit about the mentally impaired because they have full access to do crazy stunts like killing people.
So the guy in the wheelchair couldn't have a knife, gun, or mental issues? The cops have no idea what they are dealing with. This is why when you get put pulled over, the cop approaches the car with his hand on the gun.

In the first 10 seconds of the video you can see the guy in the chair was resisting. The cops have every right to try to gain control of the situation. Yeah he got his head busted, but that's a lot better than someone getting gravely injured.
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So the guy in the wheelchair couldn't have a knife, gun, or mental issues? The cops have no idea what they are dealing with. This is why when you get put pulled over, the cop approaches the car with his hand on the gun.

In the first 10 seconds of the video you can see the guy in the chair was resisting. The cops have every right to try to gain control of the situation. Yeah he got his head busted, but that's a lot better than someone getting gravely injured.
In fact that's their JOB; and if you escalate the situation by resisting then you've no right to complain about them doing it. Now if they'd kicked him on the ground rodney king style..then i'd be raising all sorts of hell.
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Now if they'd kicked him on the ground rodney king style..then i'd be raising all sorts of hell.
I probably would have chuckled. Then I would have thought to myself "man, sucks to be that guy" and moved on to the next viral video.

On a separate note, I'd like to say I can't fucking stand bleeding hearts and I think this country is being overrun with them. This thread is a perfect example of that.

Of course, the good Reverends will come on in and make a stink, win a settlement, and take their cut "for the good of America" but we all know it's a crock of bullshit. Those guys need racism to survive in order to line their own pockets. That's why they contribute so heavily to ensure that the racial lines are not thinned or broken.

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