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      06-22-2011, 09:15 PM   #89
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After working with HPF on my E46 M3's turbo kit I can say that they are an awesome company and are extremely responsive to the consumers desires... I hope we see that on the N54 platform
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I apologize about the long delay on the response to this thread. We have been working on collecting all of the data that everyone is enquiring about and have shot video's as well. We will have this posted in the next day or so. In the video we will go over the pressure testing we have done, showing you the pressure test results, along with the installation of this OCC. Due to the high cost on the parts we are using on this OCC. We have been working on replacing some of the higher cost parts that we use on the OCC to offer a lower priced OCC option for you guys to chose from.


I appreciate everyone in this community for expressing your frustrations and your opinions. This information helps me gather what we need in order to offer this community the product and pricing that you guys would like to see. I hope that you guys will allow me to work with all of you to meet the needs you are after and to offer this community what they are needing for performance.

Your feedback is very important to myself and everyone at HPF. Feel free to email me anytime for any questions or suggestions you guys may have so that we can better serve this community.

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I have had nothing good to say about anything HPF has done for the N54 so far, but I can honestly say that I am taken a back by your reply, in a good way. FFor as much crap as we give you guys for the dumb things you do, I appreciate the nature of the general response.

Now, we would like to see something for the N54 that makes LOTS of power. K, get to work.
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      06-23-2011, 11:48 AM   #91
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I have had nothing good to say about anything HPF has done for the N54 so far, but I can honestly say that I am taken a back by your reply, in a good way. FFor as much crap as we give you guys for the dumb things you do, I appreciate the nature of the general response.

Now, we would like to see something for the N54 that makes LOTS of power. K, get to work.
Thank you for your response. I understand that us at HPF haven't given this community the power or the parts that will help push the envelopes yet. But I assure you that this is in the works and we will not abandone this platform, but only add to it and compliment it's style with power.

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David thanks for your response and I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing details behind your crankcase ventilation/pressures/restriction testing and OCC impact on it..have to warn you though this community has a pretty good grasp in what we'd like to see (see the PCV saga thread) and i hope you can use the info already gathered to bring us a superior OCC on the market which addresses all of the concerns expressed there...
The video is actually being edited at the moment. I should have the video posted this evening or sometime tomorrow morning. I definitely appreciate your response.


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Hey David, the N54 community is excited to have HPF developing parts for the 335/135. I know your single turbo is in the works, however it would be cool to also have a twin upgrade option for those that want to maintain stock plumbing, etc. They have several twin upgrades that make over 500whp with meth + race gas, so can you speak with your engineers and report back if upgraded twins can also be an option to maintain that boatload of torque the N54 makes down low? Thanks

After receiving a few emails about this topic, I have forwarded the request and demands to look further in to this twin turbo set up with our team and engineering staff. I hope to have more information on this shortly. Thank you for your suggestions, this will give us more ideas of what this community would like to see.
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I would love an upgraded twin turbo kit
single turbo is the only way to go... upgraded twins are just to keep the really anxious people from going crazy.
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      06-23-2011, 03:59 PM   #95
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I'm guessing the location of the OCC is more for ease and accessibility. Would it work better if it was lower and in a cooler location?

I'm more than pumped for the single kit, and all the parts that will come with. I was thinking that maybe for the AT guys l, the kit could come with a built trans as well or as an option. That way it's already done. Plus then there would be less issues tuning both AT and MT to the same target HP level.
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Curious, but what does the inside of the can look like? Looks like a nice clean professional kit, but why just do a "knock off" of what is already out there but with braided lines and charge $250 more? Hell, I'm going to created a silver plated OCC and charge $2,000 for it because it looks better and will reflect the heat!

Doesn't seem to me like much R&D was done to this since the location is at the hottest spot in the engine bay and the oil will not have much time to condense. Not going to bother mentioning all the other issues with cc pressure.
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Would it work better if it was lower and in a cooler location?
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      06-23-2011, 05:47 PM   #98
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Yeah sorry about that. working on it now. It will be up shortly.
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Thank you for everyone's patience while we collect the data for the HPF OCC. Below you will see a video on the pressure testing on the OCC and you will also see the installation of the OCC as well.

We performed the testing on a E90 335i that had the current mods done to it.

- ETS 5" intercooler
- ETS 2.5" Dual exhaust system
- ETS 3.0" to 2.5" downpipes
- ETS Dual Cone Intake system
- Vishnu Procede V5 w/ 12-17maps.

We are now offering a couple different options for the OCC. We understand that there are a few price points that people want to stay within. We are still offering the $499 kit for those who want to get them with the higher quality fittings and lines. We also have released the same catch can, but offered with a barb fitting and different lines to do away from the AN fittings, with exception to the AN fitting that comes off the catch can itself. This will be priced at $349.


HPF oil catch can w/barb fittings! $349







HPF designed barb fittings! $99





HPF 135i/335i Oil Catch Tank Pressure Test



HPF 135i/335i Oil Catch Tank Installation


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      06-24-2011, 08:04 PM   #102
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Do you have further results to share?

-The pressure restriction of the whole system is the concern, NOT just the OCC.
-Concerns are related to OCC versus stock also
-This is NOT measuring CC pressures which is the main performance criteria.
-PSI is too broad.

basically I personally cannot draw any conclusions here except that the OCC restriction is low.
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      06-24-2011, 09:50 PM   #103
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I'd like more details as well. You should be measuring with a manometer, not a boost gauge btw.

As far as aesthetics and the engineering that went into it...super cool! I just hope it tests well and the price for those classy fittings comes DOWN! haha
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What are the ID on the hoses and fittings?
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What are the ID on the hoses and fittings?
I believe that info is the first post IIRC. Sorry, i'm on my phone and too lazy to look
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I believe that info is the first post IIRC. Sorry, i'm on my phone and too lazy to look
Nope. Only that the old $500 kit had 10AN fittings.

The new cheaper kit has totally different fittings and hoses.

...and the fact is that the OCC is still placed over the two glowing snails with the new kit:
http://i30.tinypic.com/21eavp.jpg

...and are still having the same bad uphill on the outgoing hose from the crankcase...
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I apologize about the long delay on the response to this thread. We have been working on collecting all of the data that everyone is enquiring about and have shot video's as well. We will have this posted in the next day or so. In the video we will go over the pressure testing we have done, showing you the pressure test results, along with the installation of this OCC. Due to the high cost on the parts we are using on this OCC. We have been working on replacing some of the higher cost parts that we use on the OCC to offer a lower priced OCC option for you guys to chose from.


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Thank you!
Very professional reaction to the sometimes slightly juvenile reactions in this forum.

IMHO it's still way too expensive for what it is - I still remember AR Design being spanked for offering an OCC at around 250 USD, and this one is double that.

Placement is also an issue, I'm quite happy with the AR Design as it's far removed from the turbos and has done its job, as far as I can tell.

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