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      04-24-2013, 03:36 AM   #1365
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But on AAPL and gold/silver, alot of negative press now, that is a bullish sign to me.
I think the amount of people who are short AAPL speaks volumes. With so much negative press and very little short interest, I'd argue that there's still a ways down. Just my opinion.

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wow...when i posted it was around 425, talk about crazy turnaround. yep, still have aapl, plan to keep for awhile, i was more concerned the stock would drop to 300 after earnings, satisfied it's still at 400. maybe it's safe to say 400 is the bottom now?! i guess we'll see....but i think new upcoming products will only push this stock back up. dividend hike and $60 billion buyback is a good thing too.
I'm short and will be adding more tomorrow. I see AAPL hitting $300 before $500.

I'm curious why so many people still like AAPL. What's your argument to go long? Low P/E? Waiting for the iTV or iWatch?

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      04-24-2013, 07:56 AM   #1366
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I think the amount of people who are short AAPL speaks volumes. With so much negative press and very little short interest, I'd argue that there's still a ways down. Just my opinion.



I'm short and will be adding more tomorrow. I see AAPL hitting $300 before $500.

I'm curious why so many people still like AAPL. What's your argument to go long? Low P/E? Waiting for the iTV or iWatch?
I believe when aapl bring out their new products in the 2nd half of the year, interest will come back and will drive the stock price back up. Also, a company that has $145 billion in cash balance is a good problem to have and I'm glad their using some of it to their shareholders.

Sure, Samsung has taken some of their sales from the iphone but I do think majority of people will continue to buy future iphones. People have invested so much in the appl ecosystem, I'm thinking people will just continue to get iphones. Even if aapl don't get new customers to buy iphones, if the existing customers continue to buy the iphone and with gross margin at 37%, that's still good for me. I hope they come out with a cheaper iphone and tap in China/India as well.

I hope the stock doesn't get to 300 but if it does, I'll just continue to add more to lower my avg price. I'm not going to panic and sell, I'll just take the dividends and be patient with the stock price..
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      04-30-2013, 10:28 AM   #1367
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I told you guys AAPL downside momentum was waning despite the falling prices many wks ago...I was adding at 400.00 level...when sentiment is so down and everyone hates the stock, you have to buy at that time when your brain is saying NO!

Still in BBRY at 11.80...FB(the dog)...got into AGQ few wks ago as sentiment on metals was piss poor at the time too.

I added DDD, as I like the 3D printing sector as this is the future but this one is risky as it has run up alot over past 6 months.
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      05-02-2013, 02:56 PM   #1368
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AAPL 300.00 before 500.00???...I highly doubt it.

I called for new all time highs over a year ago when most didnt believe...well believe it!...trading short term will not work for 95% of people...be on the right side and be patient, its the only way.

AAPL a good buy in low 400's...FB finally making a move...BBRY still doing well...my new pal, DDD looks good...I am interested in TSLA also on a pullback(low to mid 40's but not at this level)
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      05-02-2013, 07:15 PM   #1369
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I can see AAPL reaching $460 area. Don't know if it has enough momentum to get over $500 again. It is hard to catch a bottom on AAPL. There is way easier setups out there than AAPL. Don't know why everyone wants to get in on AAPL.

TSLA is nasty fundamentally. Last year their net profit margin was -95%. Inside transaction -78%. Earning is coming up next week. And TSLA look way over extended right now. Went vertical in 1 month.

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      05-02-2013, 07:21 PM   #1370
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JNJ has been my favorite. Green every week of 2013. Might be losing steam soon though.

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      05-02-2013, 07:45 PM   #1371
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AAPL looks to have bottomed actually. I see high $500s by July. How about them ATHs on the SPX? Anyone looking to call a top on it? 1650? 1700? 1750? All within the realm of possibility as crazy as this run up has been.
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      05-03-2013, 05:25 AM   #1372
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AAPL looks to have bottomed actually. I see high $500s by July. How about them ATHs on the SPX? Anyone looking to call a top on it? 1650? 1700? 1750? All within the realm of possibility as crazy as this run up has been.
High 500's? Lol

People are so fast to jump onto the AAPL train. Lets not forget less than 2 months ago, it was at 460. If you're playing the dividend game, sure, Apple is a great buy. For now, I'll maintain my call on AAPL.
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      05-03-2013, 08:43 AM   #1373
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Want to add to my ddd position...you guys should look into 3d printing...amazing stuff...way of the future...will change manufacturing in the future.

And aapl just took out 450, a key level.

And I already called for the top at spx 1700-1750... Mkts will crater next yr...going to be fun watching VIX get above 50 again.
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      05-03-2013, 08:47 AM   #1374
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      05-03-2013, 09:00 AM   #1375
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Want to add to my ddd position...you guys should look into 3d printing...amazing stuff...way of the future...will change manufacturing in the future.

And aapl just took out 450, a key level.

And I already called for the top at spx 1700-1750... Mkts will crater next yr...going to be fun watching VIX get above 50 again.
Damn, that sounds confident. I think so too, but I was thinking we would top out in July/August. I don't want this bull market to go on until 2014.
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      05-03-2013, 09:21 AM   #1376
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Anyone here in financial math? Optimization, pricing, risk management, etc.?

Getting into the field and have a few general questions.
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      05-03-2013, 10:10 AM   #1377
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I'm kicking myself for not getting back into DE.
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      05-03-2013, 12:31 PM   #1378
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I like SPX until 1645-1650!...then we pull back for short term.
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      05-03-2013, 08:26 PM   #1379
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This market is unbelievable. Dow 15000 with SPX hitting another new high. The Dow and SPX is getting way overextended. We are still due for a correction to 1400-1500 area on the SPX and Dow at the 13500-14000. Anyone hedging here?

AAPL putting a similar candle. Let's see how it plays out next week.
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      05-06-2013, 09:53 AM   #1380
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Anybody join me with DDD?.... 3d printing sector on fire!!

Aapl just cleared some technical hurdles... My last add was 394... Cost avg down to 410

Anyone catch aapl near 400? This was the time when everyone was calling for 300 and fear was in the streets... As stated, this was the time to buy

One of the best ways to trade is using sentiment including the vix
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      05-06-2013, 04:46 PM   #1381
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AAPL just might not have the growth anymore. Does anyone else think AAPL just might stick around 400 and be fairly valued?
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Anybody join me with DDD?.... 3d printing sector on fire!!
What's your position on DDD?
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      05-06-2013, 09:42 PM   #1383
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I actually agree with your assessment of AAPL...once the dam breaks, doubtful it will take out the all time high again...now somehow GOOG managed to do this but it has a ridiculous bull mkt now carrying it but AAPL wont have that luxury as time is running out on the bull...would be surprised if the bull lasted 9 more months.

At some point, MSFT, INTC, CSCO were all high flyers and while they continued to make bank even after the growth phase was over, you dont get that sick dumb explosive stock price growth anymore.

The momo players are into 3D printing and TSLA now....

Damn TSLA I have been wanting to get in for over a week now but the price wont allow it!...we need a 20% correction so I can get in.



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I agree with your first statement, although I certainly don't believe that it's a $400 company. A great deal of negativity would have to occur for it to be "fairly valued" at that price.

It's P/E ratio ranks it around the top 10% for Tech companies. They are still posting some of the highest quarterly earnings of all time (for any company). They're still very heavy on cash and still have a significant market share.

The bad:
-They're running out of steam. They haven't come out with anything innovative in a long time. The iPad mini was long overdue and it's also a product with more narrow profit margins.
-Android based phones are continuing to improve. In my opinion, the iPhone 4 was the last phone that I considered to truly be the best out there. The 4s and 5 include dated technology and the 5 certainly came with its fair share of flaws.
-It's not that cool to own an iphone anymore. Apple's stock price got as high as $700 because it was cool to own Apple products and it was equally cool to own Apple stock. It was the number one owned equity in mutual fund portfolios and mutual fund companies were using it in growth and value based funds (in some cases dividend funds as well). After the stock fell, it fell sharply. Many fund managers started dumping the stock which only made the price fall faster.

I think the price has overcorrected and it's fairly valued at around $500-525, but the technology sector changes daily so my opinion on those figures may change in the blink of an eye.
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What's your position on DDD?
Obviously I am long...up 20% in less than 2 wks...but obviously there is risk now since it has gone up alot lately...shorts being squeezed right now...short interest like 30% on this one.

I like this sector for the medium term timeframe(medium time frame being 6-9 months), or at least until the mkts crater next yr....this one will be a great short come next year...but then after the bear mkt 2-3 yrs from now abates, would be willing to get long again.
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i'm up 20% ytd, itching to just close out for the year and call it a win. i don't play for dollars, i play for percents. really, my portfolio is play dough compared to my total worth.

edit: just put in a sell all order. need to book some income for the year, i can always get back in. 20% for a macro fund, i think that's pretty damn good.

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Obviously I am long...up 20% in less than 2 wks...but obviously there is risk now since it has gone up alot lately...shorts being squeezed right now...short interest like 30% on this one.

I like this sector for the medium term timeframe(medium time frame being 6-9 months), or at least until the mkts crater next yr....this one will be a great short come next year...but then after the bear mkt 2-3 yrs from now abates, would be willing to get long again.
Definitely going to keep an eye on this one.
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