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      03-03-2016, 11:53 AM   #1
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Since Mbile1 0w-40 is no longer LL-01 What Can I use

I bought a bunch on Amazon and I saw that BMW and LL-01 was no longer listed on the bottom, I was wondering what other brands I can use so I can order some.

I have the N51.

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Castrol 0w40, 0w30, and 5w40 are the easiest to find. Available on Amazon too.
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+1 on Castrol Edge 0w40.
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Castrol Edge 0W-40 LL-01 on sale @ Amazon for $25.00 a jug.
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Anyone know why Mobil 1 is no longer LL-01? Did Mobil 1 change the formula or did BMW change the spec?

If the latter, the oil should still be fine to use. I have around 20 quarts of it and plan to keep on using it. But I did buy it when it was still LL-01.
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Anyone know why Mobil 1 is no longer LL-01? Did Mobil 1 change the formula or did BMW change the spec?

If the latter, the oil should still be fine to use. I have around 20 quarts of it and plan to keep on using it. But I did buy it when it was still LL-01.
New formulation, now made from natural gas. My prediction is that it hasn't been tested for LL-01 yet, but pure speculation. This is M1's "european" oil so I'm sure they want it approved.
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If in warranty, chose any of LL01's out there: plenty. Castrol is the easy one at Wally world.

If out of warranty I would not hesitate to use M1 Euro: its still a stout oil and recent VoA shows very little delta in add packs, TBN etc...A40 etc...still in place.

It *is* strange that it does not have cert on new bottle...was BMW extorting too much $ for the licensing? Considering they are the largest out there, money should not be an issue with certification...

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Castrol Edge 0W-40 LL-01 on sale @ Amazon for $25.00 a jug.
+1 castrol edge 0w-40 @ 25 usd for 5 quart jug, just purchased 3 of them and 2 Mann filters
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