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      11-01-2011, 03:15 PM   #243
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Okay. I emailed VF Engineering today and copied this thread as well.
They're working on it

Competition is a good thing!

Here is their response:
Thank you for contacting us. We have a number of products going through our development dept and the N5X engine is included. We may have some more information early next year.

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Has anyone contacted ESS for the update? If ESS can deliver this SC kit then ARMA is going down.
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      01-05-2012, 05:26 PM   #246
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I'm in as well, I'll be keeping my car until it completely gives up
+1. This car will be with me until it dies. i'm definitely down if ESS comes through. I'm beginning to have a flicker of hope since most of my friends are running 335's
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emailed ESS to ignite their fire if it has gone out. Everyone should re-email them and ask for an update so they can know we're still here.
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      02-17-2012, 12:37 PM   #249
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Apparently, ESS is still contemplating and hasn't moved forward with anything at this time

Here's his response from last night:
We have not had any free R&D capacity at the moment to look further into this project.

AA and VF: MAJOR opportunity for you right here if you haven't already started something.
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Apparently, ESS is still contemplating and hasn't moved forward with anything at this time

Here's his response from last night:
We have not had any free R&D capacity at the moment to look further into this project.

AA and VF: MAJOR opportunity for you right here if you haven't already started something.
Figures, I was trying to push a lot for this, but I don't think anything will ever come, from anyone.

I'm planning for a motor swap instead as soon as I can find a good one for a good price. I don't know what route to take yet. An S62 v8 with SMG has me intrigued. Too bad it will be much more of a pain than my S52 e30 was...
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I just got a response from one of the two other supercharger companies I listed above, who at their request shall remain anonomous, just purchased a 328 for testing.
Yes, again waiting.

I seriously looked into purchasing an M3 and parting out my car or using the parts that I could from my car and it'll still cost me over $30K to do similar upgrades to the M3 that I have done to my car! Not going to happen.
A 335 would cost me about $15K, so it's not worth it either.
I'll just stick with my 330 and see what comes.
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COUNT ME IN. especially for 5k
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I just got a response from one of the two other supercharger companies I listed above, who at their request shall remain anonomous, just purchased a 328 for testing.
Yes, again waiting.

I seriously looked into purchasing an M3 and parting out my car or using the parts that I could from my car and it'll still cost me over $30K to do similar upgrades to the M3 that I have done to my car! Not going to happen.
A 335 would cost me about $15K, so it's not worth it either.
I'll just stick with my 330 and see what comes.
I totally know what you mean, since I'm in a totally different boat than you guys, my options are severely limited. There was no option for me to upgrade to an N54 or N55 when I got my X3. And in order to do so, I have to buy a new X3. So I'd be looking at nearly $60,000 and maybe $15k trade-in for my fully loaded '07 M-Sport X3... Comes to $45k out of pocket!! Hence the choice to do a motor swap. I can basically budget $20k for the swap and be way ahead. Yea, the new X3 offers more, but not $45k more. I'd much rather have a 400hp S62. Or maybe I go the easier/smarter route and go with an N55 if I can find a newer wrecked 335...
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I hear SO MANY of you saying "I'm doing this motorswap soon etc..." but I'm yet to see a single 325/328 swapped. Is there even one that was done yet? Not picking on anyone in particular, but its funny how many of you ARE going to swap, yet nothing ever happens with it. IMO even with a free motor to swap it'll still cost more than trading in the car and getting the 335 :/
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I hear SO MANY of you saying "I'm doing this motorswap soon etc..." but I'm yet to see a single 325/328 swapped. Is there even one that was done yet? Not picking on anyone in particular, but its funny how many of you ARE going to swap, yet nothing ever happens with it. IMO even with a free motor to swap it'll still cost more than trading in the car and getting the 335 :/
What on earth are you talking about? Do you even read before you post? Not one other person in this thread has ever mentioned a motor swap except for me and I don't drive an e9x and it certainly won't be my first swap...
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What on earth are you talking about? Do you even read before you post? Not one other person in this thread has ever mentioned a motor swap except for me and I don't drive an e9x and it certainly won't be my first swap...
Other than you, I have seen at least two other people, in the NA section, claim to be working on/looking into a motor swap. He isnt off base with his comments.
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Other than you, I have seen at least two other people, in the NA section, claim to be working on/looking into a motor swap. He isnt off base with his comments.
1. In this thread?

2. 2 people?? That's "SO MANY" Give me a break guys. Off base is exactly what I'd call it.
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1. In this thread?

2. 2 people?? That's "SO MANY" Give me a break guys. Off base is exactly what I'd call it.
Why are you so butt hurt? He made a statement and you're getting worked up over nothing. Chill out dude.

Far from off base. No one other than Hartge has yet to come through with their motor swap. His statement holds water.
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Why are you so butt hurt? He made a statement and you're getting worked up over nothing. Chill out dude.

Far from off base. No one other than Hartge has yet to come through with their motor swap. His statement holds water.
Whatever you say. Enjoy being a 13 year old.
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I would still like to see the looks on SC'ed N52 owners faces after they try to run with a fully tuned 335 lol. "fuck that was a waste of money"
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I would still like to see the looks on SC'ed N52 owners faces after they try to run with a fully tuned 335 lol. "fuck that was a waste of money"
Or an M3
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Or an M3
Or anything like that, m3's just dont have any tq lol, Tues afternoon i ran with a fully tuned 335 on the bridge, SSTT tune, downpipes, exhaust, he was pushing +/- 400 hp and prob the same amount of tq. He flew past me like i seriously wasn't moving. That right there made me realize no matter what we do to these n52s that its not going to be in the same ball park as a 335 with 2k into it. Do i want to spend 6,7,8k on tunes and SC's and headers to still be prob 100hp shy of the guy on the bridge? No way...its just not practical for me
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Or anything like that, m3's just dont have any tq lol, Tues afternoon i ran with a fully tuned 335 on the bridge, SSTT tune, downpipes, exhaust, he was pushing +/- 400 hp and prob the same amount of tq. He flew past me like i seriously wasn't moving. That right there made me realize no matter what we do to these n52s that its not going to be in the same ball park as a 335 with 2k into it. Do i want to spend 6,7,8k on tunes and SC's and headers to still be prob 100hp shy of the guy on the bridge? No way...its just not practical for me
Power to weight comes in to play here too though, there is a 270lb difference between an e90 335 and e90 328. from a dead start the 335 will have the edge because its TQ will throw it off the line faster, but from a roll.. well we are going to find out.

will a 328i ever beat a N54 boosting 17psi with meth and a shot? No way. Very few cars can, and im talking $100K+ cars - still cant keep up.

But a modestly modded 335, to a S/C 328i, with a dash of weight savings and parts - would be a very realistic challenge.
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VF engineering has some pretty aggressively priced SC kits for older 3 series models.....I so want an E36 to mod on the side......I need a promotion.
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