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      07-29-2011, 10:32 PM   #1
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335i/335d 2011 Sales Almost The Same

For the first six months of 2011, sales of the E90 335i and 335d were just about even. Sales of the 335i were 1756 and sales of the 335d were 1544. This means that 47% of buyers chose a 335d sedan versus the gasoline-powered 335i sedan.

This is an increase of the percentage of buyers going diesel in 2010, which was a respectable 44%.

The 335d ends production in August incidentally, leaving BMW with one diesel for the time being (the X5 xDrive35d).

Overall, diesel sales were up in the U.S. by 39% compared to the first six months of 2010.

Diesel Economics: Sales Up 39% for First Half of 2011
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An in-depth analysis of new car sales data by The Diesel Driver shows that sales of diesel-powered automobiles in the U.S. are up by 39% compared to the first half of 2010. In addition, buyers …
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That's pretty interesting. Looks like the 335d is on the rise. Do you know the number of E90 328i sold during the same time?
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he was being facetious. he owns a diesel.
i'm buying one next
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They still need manual trans.
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"End in August"... until F30 right?
Guess thats is why oil companies in the US have raised there price. In SF it is as much as $4.89 for Diesel and $4.25 for Super. "Free market"? whatever.

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"End in August"... until F30 right?
Not sure what you mean...
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The 335d ends production in August incidentally, leaving BMW with one diesel for the time being (the X5 xDrive35d).
You meant it ends production like all other e90's until 2012/2013 new F30 models? Including a new 2012/2013 335d F30 model?

I have noticed a lack of info regarding a timeframe for a new 2012/2013 335d model. I am hoping there will be a 335d available along with the new F30 models. But I assumed it would be after, like the coupe and xi. Do you have any insight into the next F30 335d model?

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You meant it ends production like all other e90's until 2012/2013 new F30 models? Including a new 2012/2013 335d F30 model?

I have noticed a lack of info regarding a timeframe for a new 2012/2013 335d model. I am hoping there will be a 335d available along with the new F30 models. But I assumed it would be after, like the coupe and xi. Do you have any insight into the next F30 335d model?

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BMW hasn´t made any announcements in terms of engines for the F30 for any market that I am aware of but the U.S. will not see a 335d at launch or soon thereafter.
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I'm worried we won't see an F30 335d. I don't know why they would wait for the LCI when sales and praise are so high right now.

I was really hoping for an F10 535d as my next car, but with news of the Active Hybrid 5 on it's way, I doubt that's going to happen.

I wonder if BMW is going to abandon the diesel expansion in the US altogether because of the hybrids and the "i" sub brand.

I really hope not. I love my oil burner.
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I wonder if "sales" includes leases. One wouldn't think people would lease the d, just as they wouldn't lease a hybrid. Not sure if those numbers are available.
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I wonder if "sales" includes leases. One wouldn't think people would lease the d, just as they wouldn't lease a hybrid. Not sure if those numbers are available.
A lease is just an alternative means of financing and counts as a sale. Just like a traditional loan or cash sale.
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I don't think BMW expected this much success with the 335d in the US. Hopefully this means more diesels with more options (manual transmission and awd) in the US in the future.
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I'm worried we won't see an F30 335d. I don't know why they would wait for the LCI when sales and praise are so high right now.

I was really hoping for an F10 535d as my next car, but with news of the Active Hybrid 5 on it's way, I doubt that's going to happen.

I wonder if BMW is going to abandon the diesel expansion in the US altogether because of the hybrids and the "i" sub brand.

I really hope not. I love my oil burner.
AFAIK the hybrids are not selling that well nor did they get good reviews in general.

In addition, Mercedes has E-Klasse and S-Klasse diesels in the U.S. so I can't see BMW ignoring that.
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For the first six months of 2011, sales of the E90 335i and 335d were just about even. Sales of the 335i were 1756 and sales of the 335d were 1544. This means that 47% of buyers chose a 335d sedan versus the gasoline-powered 335i sedan.

This is an increase of the percentage of buyers going diesel in 2010, which was a respectable 44%.

The 335d ends production in August incidentally, leaving BMW with one diesel for the time being (the X5 xDrive35d).

Overall, diesel sales were up in the U.S. by 39% compared to the first six months of 2010.
Something about those statistics doesn't seem right. Total sales of US 3 series cars in 2010 was over 100,000. Assuming that 2011 is roughly even with 2010 and we evenly divide that by 2 we come up with over 50,000 3 series cars sold in the first 6 months. You're telling me that, of those 50,000 cars, only 1756 were 335's? That doesn't make sense.
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sounds like the states are catching up with the UK in terms of diesel cars. We really started motoring more in diesels about 15yrs ago (then fuel is quite a bit more here). Thing is, back then diesel was cheaper than petrol, now diesel is around 5p per litre more than petrol, with it costing £6.36 ($10.35) per UK gallon, thing is, I get 45-55 UK mpg with my diesel, I only got 25-32 in my petrol.

The way fuel prices are going I will be riding a mountain bike to work soon
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Something about those statistics doesn't seem right. Total sales of US 3 series cars in 2010 was over 100,000. Assuming that 2011 is roughly even with 2010 and we evenly divide that by 2 we come up with over 50,000 3 series cars sold in the first 6 months. You're telling me that, of those 50,000 cars, only 1756 were 335's? That doesn't make sense.
The stats for the specific models listed are correct but there are, of course, other models with a 335 designation that aren't comparable models which count as 3-Series sales overall.
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Absolutely. This guy practices creative accounting.

I see plenty of 335i sedans, many a month. I have seen maybe 3-4 335d on the road in the last 3 years.

I was at a large BMW dealer 2 weeks ago and asked the salesman if his dealership carried 335d in stock. He told me that he had a demo that he finally got rid 2-3 months ago and won't replace.
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I drove a 335d loaner car last Friday when I took my 335i in for an oil change at 1200 miles. It was kind of the bizarro version of my car, as it was metallic black, tan vinyl interior, automatic, I-drive, no sport package, and crummy stereo - all of the stuff I dislike. I did get a good feel for how the drivetrain performs, which was impressive due to the torque. I did not like the automatic and the car didn't suit my driving preferences. If I had to travel extensively for work, the 335d would be a great road car. Other than that, I made the right choice for me.

I do think that a 320d with a manual transmission and M-sport might be fun, plus it would get the kind of mileage that would make owning a diesel worth it.
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