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      02-24-2012, 12:55 AM   #1541
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Thanks for the response and encouragement, Greg!

I'm kind of nervous but i think i'll be fine with the prep :]
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      02-26-2012, 04:42 PM   #1542
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hi.. i recently ordered the leatherique twins and awaiting delivery. About a month ago, i used the mothers cleaner and conditioner sparingly and needless to say i was not pleased with the conditioner. It left a shiny look which looked a bit blotchy. Really spoiled the OEM leather finish. My question is when i am ready to use the RO, should i first used a the remainder of the mothers cleaner to get out the residual mothers leather conditioner? i dont want that the RO worsens the seats, they dont look awful now but they definitely dont look like the matte OEM finish.
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      03-06-2012, 12:48 AM   #1543
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Use a leather cleaner first to remove the oils left behind from the Mothers conditioner. Then I'd condition the leather with a product that will leave a matte or "neutral" finish.

Also, try to use an applicator on the leather to help spread the product evenly if you are already not doing so!

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      03-06-2012, 08:04 PM   #1544
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Which one of these is a Better
detailing chair. I have a sloped driveway and sloped garage.

http://www.harborfreight.com/pneumatic-adjustable-roller-seat-46319.html

http://www.harborfreight.com/mechanics-roller-seat-3338.html
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The best thing to do is to get a waterproof pad. A fairly large one to kneel on. The key is to kneel on one knee and keep your back as upright and straight as possible. With the chairs you posted above it will force you to lean or crunch down to the lower areas. You need a pad to lean one knee on.

Been doing this for 10+ years and it is the only way to keep your back feeling good while detailing.
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      03-06-2012, 08:54 PM   #1546
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The best thing to do is to get a waterproof pad. A fairly large one to kneel on. The key is to kneel on one knee and keep your back as upright and straight as possible. With the chairs you posted above it will force you to lean or crunch down to the lower areas. You need a pad to lean one knee on.

Been doing this for 10+ years and it is the only way to keep your back feeling good while detailing.
Could you provide a picture of what you are talking about. Is it like this one.

Also I am looking not only for something to use when working on the wheels but also when waxing the side of my car.

http://www.harborfreight.com/folding-mechanics-pad-93896.html
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      03-06-2012, 09:26 PM   #1547
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Could you provide a picture of what you are talking about. Is it like this one.

Also I am looking not only for something to use when working on the wheels but also when waxing the side of my car.

http://www.harborfreight.com/folding...pad-93896.html
I would use that. A pad exactly as such.

The problem with chairs is the fact you can never sit fully upright while "working" on the car. You always have to lean, tweak, bend, and what have you.

I know this sounds crazy but to keep your back healthy this is needed for detailing. You want to keep your spine as straight as possible.

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      03-06-2012, 09:41 PM   #1548
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Could you provide a picture of what you are talking about. Is it like this one.

Also I am looking not only for something to use when working on the wheels but also when waxing the side of my car.

http://www.harborfreight.com/folding...pad-93896.html
I would use that. A pad exactly as such.

The problem with chairs is the fact you can never sit fully upright while "working" on the car. You always have to lean, tweak, bend, and what have you.

I know this sounds crazy but to keep your back healthy this is needed for detailing. You want to keep your spine as straight as possible.

-Martin
Ok, thanks so much for your help Martin!!!!
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      03-06-2012, 09:56 PM   #1549
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Ok, thanks so much for your help Martin!!!!
No problem just trying to help you out
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      03-10-2012, 11:47 AM   #1550
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In your opinion what's the best starter kit?
Also what would you recommend be done to a brand new car?
Ps I live in Chicago, and we get snow, hail, Rain and everything in between.
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      03-12-2012, 02:29 PM   #1551
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On a freshly painted black car (i'm not sure which clearcoat is being used, so i'm looking for general information), would PO85RD on a black LC finishing pad be suitable to clean up compounding swirls and marring?

i plan on doing this no more than a day or two after the car is resprayed, wet sanded, and compounded (by the shop). swirl marks are going to be inevitable, so i'm going to have to take matters into my own hands to clean them up.

would a one step with PO85RD on a finishing pad put me on the right track since the paint is so soft (being black and not fully cured yet), or would i possibly need to do a two step with P203S on a white LC polishing pad?

or are my products not suitable at all for what i'm doing
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      03-12-2012, 03:34 PM   #1552
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Wrong username.
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      03-12-2012, 03:35 PM   #1553
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Jet Black respray?

Depends really how bad the body shop leaves it? Even though jet Black is soft it may need something a little stronger than the 85rd.

The products are fine, it really depends what shape you get it back in.

It may need stronger or not, you will be able to tell right away.
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      03-12-2012, 03:39 PM   #1554
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In your opinion what's the best starter kit?
Also what would you recommend be done to a brand new car?
Ps I live in Chicago, and we get snow, hail, Rain and everything in between.
Brand new car...

Wash
Clay
Rewash
Iron-x
Rewash
Light polish
Seal/Protect

I would recommend a sealant so it is a little more durable against the environment.
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      03-12-2012, 04:41 PM   #1555
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Jet Black respray?

Depends really how bad the body shop leaves it? Even though jet Black is soft it may need something a little stronger than the 85rd.

The products are fine, it really depends what shape you get it back in.

It may need stronger or not, you will be able to tell right away.
so under certain circumstances 85rd on a finishing pad will be enough to do minor correction on fresh uncured paint? their compounding work usually doesn't leave any deep scratches. it's generally just really bad holograms.

you don't think P203S would be too aggressive? it seems to have a pretty hefty cut considering how well it finishes down. i'm guessing it may even leave marring on fresh jet black. i don't want to eat through more clear than necessary.

i know i could just try X product and see what happens, but if i may need to purchase new polish or pads, i'd rather order them before the car is done being painted

thanks again martin
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      03-12-2012, 08:31 PM   #1556
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If just holograms you should be fine with white/blue and 85rd. I would just make sure to have fresh pads, 85rd if you already have it.

I would go with the least aggressive method first obviously and see what results that gets you. Then go from there if that makes sense...

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      03-13-2012, 04:22 AM   #1557
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Thanks to your guidance long ago I'm familiar with the washing, drying, claying, and applying Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Polish and Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protector, and also waxing by hand.
Now, i want to take it the next level by pulling a trigger on a PC but im overwhelm by the amount of info ive read on this thread. A few things on my mind:

1. Ive already have Dodo Juice Supernatural Hybrid Paste Sealant and Dodo Juice Light Fantastic Soft Wax in my arsenal. Can I use these with a PC and which pads if possible may apply it with?
2 Need recommendation for different type of polishes (for minor swirls -and- finish) and buffer pads to pair with them.
3. Will i still be able to incorporate the Blackfire products in if I have a PC or would it be wise to take them out the equations?
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      03-18-2012, 11:43 AM   #1558
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In your opinion what's the best starter kit?
Also what would you recommend be done to a brand new car?
Ps I live in Chicago, and we get snow, hail, Rain and everything in between.

I live in upstate NY so I can relate to the bad weather and road conditions. We have a few kits for new vehicles (DI Packages New Car Care Advanced Kit and DI Packages New Car Care Starter Kit) which are both great. They both give you everything you need to clean, shine and protect the vehicle inside and out.

Here are some articles from other professional detailers and their process:

http://www.detailedimage.com/Ask-a-P...-benz-sls-amg/
http://www.detailedimage.com/Ask-a-P...ocess-bmw-550/

If you have any other questions please let me know.

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On a freshly painted black car (i'm not sure which clearcoat is being used, so i'm looking for general information), would PO85RD on a black LC finishing pad be suitable to clean up compounding swirls and marring?

i plan on doing this no more than a day or two after the car is resprayed, wet sanded, and compounded (by the shop). swirl marks are going to be inevitable, so i'm going to have to take matters into my own hands to clean them up.

would a one step with PO85RD on a finishing pad put me on the right track since the paint is so soft (being black and not fully cured yet), or would i possibly need to do a two step with P203S on a white LC polishing pad?

or are my products not suitable at all for what i'm doing
The Menzerna Micro Polish SF 4500 (PO85RD) with a black pad is a pretty light pad and polish combination. This will really only help remove extremely light surface imperfections. If the shop does a very good job polishing the surface this would be a good follow up. I do think you'll probably need something a bit stronger though so the Menzerna Super Finish Polish SF 4000 (PO106FA Nano Polish) and a white pad may be a better starting point. If this is not enough I would recommend moving up to the Menzerna Super Intensive Polish SI 1500 (PO83) with an orange pad (PO203S has been discontinued because it was so similar to the PO83). Follow up with a lighter pad and polish combo to ensure you don't have any haze left behind. Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll be happy to help.

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Thanks to your guidance long ago I'm familiar with the washing, drying, claying, and applying Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Polish and Blackfire Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protector, and also waxing by hand.
Now, i want to take it the next level by pulling a trigger on a PC but im overwhelm by the amount of info ive read on this thread. A few things on my mind:

1. Ive already have Dodo Juice Supernatural Hybrid Paste Sealant and Dodo Juice Light Fantastic Soft Wax in my arsenal. Can I use these with a PC and which pads if possible may apply it with?
2 Need recommendation for different type of polishes (for minor swirls -and- finish) and buffer pads to pair with them.
3. Will i still be able to incorporate the Blackfire products in if I have a PC or would it be wise to take them out the equations?
Glad to hear the detailing has been going well and you're looking to get even better. In general both of those products are applied by hand. If you really wanted to you could try spreading them on a 4" buffing pad but I think this would waste product and take up far more time than it would be worth.

For the swirls I would suggest using at least a light polish and a medium polish may also be needed. The Blackfire Scratch Resistant Clear Finishing Polish with a white pad is a great choice if you want to start conservative.

If you want to use all the other products you listed here is the order I'd suggest. After polishing you can use the Gloss Enhancing Polish to further clean and shine the paint. After that start the protection with the BFWD, then the hybrid Supernatural and lastly the Light Fantastic. Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll be happy to help.

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hi.. i recently ordered the leatherique twins and awaiting delivery. About a month ago, i used the mothers cleaner and conditioner sparingly and needless to say i was not pleased with the conditioner. It left a shiny look which looked a bit blotchy. Really spoiled the OEM leather finish. My question is when i am ready to use the RO, should i first used a the remainder of the mothers cleaner to get out the residual mothers leather conditioner? i dont want that the RO worsens the seats, they dont look awful now but they definitely dont look like the matte OEM finish.
I would no longer use the Mother's product, just move right over to the Leatherique products. The Leatherique products will help remove old product residue left on the seats, contaminants, dirt, dust, oils, etc. and leave a nice matte finish. If you need any other tips check out this guide - http://www.detailedimage.com/Ask-a-P...r-care-how-to/.

Let me know if you have any questions about how to use the Leatherique after reading that and I'll be here to help.

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Thanks

i actually had to re-compound the entire vehicle with meg 105 on a surbuf pad. some of the sanding marks were bad enough that they required me to do it twice! i followed that up with 203S white pad and finally po85rd black pad.

I haven't completed the vehicle yet. only up to step 2 with 70% of the car.

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The Menzerna Micro Polish SF 4500 (PO85RD) with a black pad is a pretty light pad and polish combination. This will really only help remove extremely light surface imperfections. If the shop does a very good job polishing the surface this would be a good follow up. I do think you'll probably need something a bit stronger though so the Menzerna Super Finish Polish SF 4000 (PO106FA Nano Polish) and a white pad may be a better starting point. If this is not enough I would recommend moving up to the Menzerna Super Intensive Polish SI 1500 (PO83) with an orange pad (PO203S has been discontinued because it was so similar to the PO83). Follow up with a lighter pad and polish combo to ensure you don't have any haze left behind. Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll be happy to help.

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