[BzzzBom]

Does anyone know if BMW is replacing the bad fuel pumps with the same design? Are the pumps on newer cars (eg~ 1/07 + cars) the same as the earlier cars?

[zenmaster]

The new fuel pump has a new part #, presumably they fixed the problem with a new design.

[Plan B]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

The new fuel pump has a new part #, presumably they fixed the problem with a new design.

zenmaster: not doubting you at all...but can you please provide reference? I wish you are correct.

[BzzzBom]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

The new fuel pump has a new part #, presumably they fixed the problem with a new design.

What production date did they start using this new fuel pump?

[zenmaster]

Can't find the particular BMW TSB. But I recall that it specified a replacement HPP part # 13537537320.

[Raider]

Mine was built 02/07

Pump just crapped on me, or there were symptoms of it...

Let's pray it's not the case, i dont' wanna wait 2 months for this part to come in

[zenmaster]

Found it:
http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B125506g.htm

It's for E90 or E92 with N54 produced 06/06 up to 12/01/06

[sstarch1]

They are definately putting in a different fuel pump than before.

The previous manufacturere was Seimens, i think, and they switched to a new manufacturer, hence the lag times in getting the new part. But from what i know, the part is being ramped up to full production very soon, so the pipeline should be operating at full capacity soon.

[Plan B]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

Found it:
http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B125506g.htm

It's for E90 or E92 with N54 produced 06/06 up to 12/01/06

Thanks!

[Maestro]

That TSB say cars produced up to 12/1/06, and I believe everyone was saying it was only up to October, so it looks like more cars are affected and from the above comment it sounds like people are having problems after that date as well.

Also, I bet people who had their pumps changed early on did not get the new ones so they might have a return trip in the future.

[Plan B]

Originally Posted by Raider

Mine was built 02/07

Pump just crapped on me, or there were symptoms of it...

Let's pray it's not the case, i dont' wanna wait 2 months for this part to come in

Raider: Good luck to you. But if your FP is indeed diagnosed to be the culprit, please check with your SA to see if yours were built with the NEW pump. Perhaps the factorys were still using the old ones, as the new were being rolled out? Still...yours is a Feb build...so it doesn't make sense.

[SROC3]

So are they having a recall or something? Or are they just going to wait until our pumps fail one by one? They should be sending out memos now to warn people with certain build dates that they should look to schedule something in the near future.

[DanMardik]

As it stands it seems as if they are going with it "Case By Case"

[radgator1]

Originally Posted by sstarch1

They are definately putting in a different fuel pump than before.

The previous manufacturere was Seimens, i think, and they switched to a new manufacturer, hence the lag times in getting the new part. But from what i know, the part is being ramped up to full production very soon, so the pipeline should be operating at full capacity soon.

Will they recall all the old Siemens ones that haven't failed (yet) as a recall once they have an ample supply of the new ones? That is the question.

[thealbert]

Originally Posted by SROC3

So are they having a recall or something? Or are they just going to wait until our pumps fail one by one? They should be sending out memos now to warn people with certain build dates that they should look to schedule something in the near future.

This is just me but I would suspect one of the main reasons why BMW hasn't issued a recall yet is because there's still a huge shortage of fuel pumps. BMW is already struggling to repair the current cars with bad fuel pumps, so just imagine if they did a mass recall and imagine the number of pumps they'll need! The supply needs to keep up with the demand before they can issue anything on a national/global scale such as a recall. But I'm sure once they have enough pumps in stock, expect a recall shortly thereafter.

[BoostedBMW]

I don't like seeing that the fuel pumps are still in short supply, its good to see that they have changed to a new pump.

[HellFish]

So as of what date did they start putting the good fuel pump in new cars?

[thealbert]

Originally Posted by HellFish

So as of what date did they start putting the good fuel pump in new cars?

no one really knows.. i keep getting conflicting responses.. like some say jan 07, but then there have been people who have jan 07 build cars with fuel pump problems. I would suspect it wouldn't be till march did they actually get the new pumps in the cars. But thats just speculating.. no hard evidence here.. anyone care to help clear this up?

[radgator1]

Originally Posted by thealbert

This is just me but I would suspect one of the main reasons why BMW hasn't issued a recall yet is because there's still a huge shortage of fuel pumps. BMW is already struggling to repair the current cars with bad fuel pumps, so just imagine if they did a mass recall and imagine the number of pumps they'll need! The supply needs to keep up with the demand before they can issue anything on a national/global scale such as a recall. But I'm sure once they have enough pumps in stock, expect a recall shortly thereafter.

I hope you are right but I am not so confident they will. of course it would be the right thing to do, but it is an expensive part and if only 20% of them will fail I could see them just replacing them on a "as needed" basis.

[thealbert]

Originally Posted by radgator1

I hope you are right but I am not so confident they will. of course it would be the right thing to do, but it is an expensive part and if only 20% of them will fail I could see them just replacing them on a "as needed" basis.

You could be right, now that I think of it. I checked with the dealer and the replacement pump costs around $1,500! A mass recall would kill BMW's profit on the cars! I doubt everyone in BMW would be happy with that. haha Hopefully in the near future, they should have enough fuel pumps in stock though so when someone brings in their car with a fuel pump problem, it'll only be a 2 or 3 day turnover instead of a 2 month wait!

[ATG]

Originally Posted by Maestro

That TSB say cars produced up to 12/1/06, and I believe everyone was saying it was only up to October, so it looks like more cars are affected and from the above comment it sounds like people are having problems after that date as well.

Also, I bet people who had their pumps changed early on did not get the new ones so they might have a return trip in the future.

Is there any way to find out by the VIN number which day in December was the car manufactured? The sticker in my car says that it was produced in 12/2006, but I know that on Nov. 29, 2006 it was still in code 150 (production started).

[thealbert]

I just got word from my SA. Turns out the fuel pump that they ordered for me is a direct replacement fuel pump. Meaning, it still has all the defects just like the original pump that came with my car. In other words, when this "new" replacement pump is installed, it WILL break on me again! grrr..

So I asked them when they'll have the new/updated/problem free pump and they said there are currently NO new/updated/problem free pumps available that BMW is realeasing at this point in time. I asked them when they would be releasing it and they said they spoke to people at BMWNA and they said there's no time table from BMW right now. I asked them why is it then that everyone else is getting new replacement pumps and basically, from what my dealer told me is that all the replacement pumps that everyone is getting are just a direct replacement and BMWNA has NOT yet released the new/updated/problem free pumps yet.

So what do I do now? I really don't know anymore. My local dealer even told me that even the new cars coming in still have the bad pumps! I've been very positive and very supportive of BMW despite this mess up but now I'm really starting to get annoyed with this whole situation... I expect to see BMW fix this issue very very soon or else...