E90Post
 


jb4store
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > Suspension | Brakes | Chassis > 328xi bmw performance big brake kit front?



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-01-2012, 01:04 AM   #45
ray_futbol
Lieutenant
Canada
16

 
ray_futbol's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 LCI 328i|E70 LCI xDrive50i
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YEG


Posts: 484
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnniewalker View Post
Yep, stock heat shields work perfectly.

I did quit some mods on the brakes, Motul RBF 600 racing brake fluid, ER SS lines, Drilled rotors and Hawk pads for the callipers. Gonna pick up the car tomorrow and see if there is any improvements.
Hawk pads for the front and rear?

I just recently bought phoenix yellow paint to do the rears....
__________________

2013 Volkswagen Golf R
2011 E70 X5 xDrive50i | BMW Performance Grille | 21" OEM Black Style 215 | Lux H8
Retired 2009 E90 328i xDrive | M Sport | BMW Performance Grille, Intake, Exhaust, BBK | AA Stg 2 | 3 Stage Manifold | Bilstein Sport | Eibach Pro | OEM CF Spoiler | CF Lip | Alufelgen SF-71
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2012, 01:04 AM   #46
johnniewalker
Lieutenant
Canada
5

 
johnniewalker's Avatar
 
Drives: 328 xdrive
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: GTA, Canada


Posts: 552
iTrader: (9)

Did you notice that the OEM Pads create tones of brake dust? Gonna see how the hawk pads perform compared to the OEMs.
__________________
Performance Intake and Exhaust, Apex arc-8, KW v1, Vorshlag camber, ER brake lines, Lux V4, AA tune
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2012, 01:07 AM   #47
johnniewalker
Lieutenant
Canada
5

 
johnniewalker's Avatar
 
Drives: 328 xdrive
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: GTA, Canada


Posts: 552
iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ray_futbol View Post
Hawk pads for the front and rear?
Yep, front and rear.
__________________
Performance Intake and Exhaust, Apex arc-8, KW v1, Vorshlag camber, ER brake lines, Lux V4, AA tune
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2012, 01:08 AM   #48
ray_futbol
Lieutenant
Canada
16

 
ray_futbol's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 LCI 328i|E70 LCI xDrive50i
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YEG


Posts: 484
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnniewalker View Post
Did you notice that the OEM Pads create tones of brake dust? Gonna see how the hawk pads perform compared to the OEMs.
mine were about the same as stock

If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for yours?
__________________

2013 Volkswagen Golf R
2011 E70 X5 xDrive50i | BMW Performance Grille | 21" OEM Black Style 215 | Lux H8
Retired 2009 E90 328i xDrive | M Sport | BMW Performance Grille, Intake, Exhaust, BBK | AA Stg 2 | 3 Stage Manifold | Bilstein Sport | Eibach Pro | OEM CF Spoiler | CF Lip | Alufelgen SF-71
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2012, 01:11 AM   #49
johnniewalker
Lieutenant
Canada
5

 
johnniewalker's Avatar
 
Drives: 328 xdrive
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: GTA, Canada


Posts: 552
iTrader: (9)

pads or calipers ?
__________________
Performance Intake and Exhaust, Apex arc-8, KW v1, Vorshlag camber, ER brake lines, Lux V4, AA tune
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2012, 01:11 AM   #50
ray_futbol
Lieutenant
Canada
16

 
ray_futbol's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 LCI 328i|E70 LCI xDrive50i
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YEG


Posts: 484
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnniewalker View Post
pads or calipers ?
rear calipers
__________________

2013 Volkswagen Golf R
2011 E70 X5 xDrive50i | BMW Performance Grille | 21" OEM Black Style 215 | Lux H8
Retired 2009 E90 328i xDrive | M Sport | BMW Performance Grille, Intake, Exhaust, BBK | AA Stg 2 | 3 Stage Manifold | Bilstein Sport | Eibach Pro | OEM CF Spoiler | CF Lip | Alufelgen SF-71
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2012, 01:14 AM   #51
johnniewalker
Lieutenant
Canada
5

 
johnniewalker's Avatar
 
Drives: 328 xdrive
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: GTA, Canada


Posts: 552
iTrader: (9)

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=660024
__________________
Performance Intake and Exhaust, Apex arc-8, KW v1, Vorshlag camber, ER brake lines, Lux V4, AA tune
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2012, 01:16 AM   #52
ray_futbol
Lieutenant
Canada
16

 
ray_futbol's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 LCI 328i|E70 LCI xDrive50i
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YEG


Posts: 484
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnniewalker View Post
thats pretty cheap. too bad they aren't yellow lol
__________________

2013 Volkswagen Golf R
2011 E70 X5 xDrive50i | BMW Performance Grille | 21" OEM Black Style 215 | Lux H8
Retired 2009 E90 328i xDrive | M Sport | BMW Performance Grille, Intake, Exhaust, BBK | AA Stg 2 | 3 Stage Manifold | Bilstein Sport | Eibach Pro | OEM CF Spoiler | CF Lip | Alufelgen SF-71
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2012, 01:19 AM   #53
johnniewalker
Lieutenant
Canada
5

 
johnniewalker's Avatar
 
Drives: 328 xdrive
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: GTA, Canada


Posts: 552
iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ray_futbol View Post
thats pretty cheap. too bad they aren't yellow lol
I thought about getting the performance ones, but thats about a grand. Than i found these. I painted them and they match pretty well.

I have a short video, and you can see them on the car.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=698817
__________________
Performance Intake and Exhaust, Apex arc-8, KW v1, Vorshlag camber, ER brake lines, Lux V4, AA tune
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2012, 01:21 AM   #54
ray_futbol
Lieutenant
Canada
16

 
ray_futbol's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 LCI 328i|E70 LCI xDrive50i
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YEG


Posts: 484
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnniewalker View Post
I thought about getting the performance ones, but thats about a grand. Than i found these. I painted them and they match pretty well.

I have a short video, and you can see them on the car.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=698817
Nice! Maybe i'll look for used ones from the states
__________________

2013 Volkswagen Golf R
2011 E70 X5 xDrive50i | BMW Performance Grille | 21" OEM Black Style 215 | Lux H8
Retired 2009 E90 328i xDrive | M Sport | BMW Performance Grille, Intake, Exhaust, BBK | AA Stg 2 | 3 Stage Manifold | Bilstein Sport | Eibach Pro | OEM CF Spoiler | CF Lip | Alufelgen SF-71
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2012, 01:23 AM   #55
johnniewalker
Lieutenant
Canada
5

 
johnniewalker's Avatar
 
Drives: 328 xdrive
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: GTA, Canada


Posts: 552
iTrader: (9)

Look in the 1addicts forum. If someone goes with bbk, they might sell their stock callipers.
__________________
Performance Intake and Exhaust, Apex arc-8, KW v1, Vorshlag camber, ER brake lines, Lux V4, AA tune
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2012, 07:00 AM   #56
e90pilot
Freight Dawg
United_States
40

 
e90pilot's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 325i
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Oakland, CA


Posts: 2,110
iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnniewalker View Post
3. MOST IMPORTANT, the brake pads don't sit completely on the rotors, the 300x20 rotors are a bit small for these callipers. Therefore, only about 80% of the pad's surface are touching the rotors. If you could find a bigger rotor that fits, that would be a perfect setup. Other than that, no modifications.
Ran into this exact problem. If you find a rotor with the correct diameter, let me know. The 135 rotor is also too deep and will not center in the caliper correctly. I've actually have a few track days on these brakes. There's a "shelf" that builds because of the part of the pad that doesn't contact the rotor. Hasn't caused me any issues as of yet, but it would be nice to have a rotor that worked properly. The other alternative is to have someone trim the pad.
__________________
--Marcelo
'06 Arctic Metallic 325i | Sport Package | 6MT | Dinan Stage III suspension | Dinan exhaust | 330i manifold swap! Click here! | Active Autowerke tune | 135i Brake Calipers | Deiselboost caliper brackets | E46 M3 front rotors
Appreciate 0
      06-07-2012, 08:32 PM   #57
ObiwanChen
Lieutenant
Canada
13

 
ObiwanChen's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 LCI 328xi
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Toronto


Posts: 406
iTrader: (0)

any update for the rear brake?
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2012, 12:25 AM   #58
johnniewalker
Lieutenant
Canada
5

 
johnniewalker's Avatar
 
Drives: 328 xdrive
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: GTA, Canada


Posts: 552
iTrader: (9)

Here are the perfect sizes:

338x26 rotors for the front.
ECS http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E82-135...ors/ES2550968/
OEM http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E82-135...ors/ES2102485/

There are other aftermarket brands that carry them, you can choose from drilled, slotted or cross drilled.

For the rear 324x22

I have tried the ones that BMW makes for 135 but they won't fit 3 series. Why? I am not sure, the mechanic told me that the brake shoe is different. You will loose the handbrake if you do the swap.
IMO, the best bet is to find a similar size or one close to 324x22 that is made for 3 series. maybe 320x22 or 325x25.

I am using Zimmermann 300x20 now. Because i bought them brand new, i want to use them for a while first, until the fronts need to be changed, then i will change all four corners (which should be after this summer).

When i change the four corners, i will try 325x25 for the rears to see if they work.
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Rotors/ES1892428/

IF ANYONE IS WILLING TO GIVE THEM A TRY BEFORE ME, PLEASE CONFIRM FITMENT ON THIS POST.
__________________
Performance Intake and Exhaust, Apex arc-8, KW v1, Vorshlag camber, ER brake lines, Lux V4, AA tune

Last edited by johnniewalker; 07-27-2012 at 12:00 AM.
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2012, 02:22 AM   #59
ObiwanChen
Lieutenant
Canada
13

 
ObiwanChen's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 LCI 328xi
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Toronto


Posts: 406
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnniewalker View Post
Here are the perfect sizes:

338x26 rotors for the front.
ECS http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E82-135...ors/ES2550968/
OEM http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E82-135...ors/ES2102485/

There are other aftermarket brands that carry them, you can choose from drilled, slotted or cross drilled.

For the rear 324x22

I have tried the ones that BMW makes for 135 but they won't fit 3 series. Why? I am not sure, the mechanic told me that the brake shoe is different. You will loose the handbrake if you do the swap.
IMO, the best bet is to find a similar size or one close to 324x22 that is made for 3 series. maybe 320x22 or 325x25.

I am using Zimmermann 300x20 now. Because i bought them brand new, i want to use them for a while first, until the fronts need to be changed, then i will change all four corners (which should be after this summer).

When i change the four corners, i will try 325x25 for the rears to see if they work.
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Rotors/ES1892428/

IF ANYONE IS WILLING TO GIVE THEM A TRY BEFORE ME, PLEASE CONFIRM FITMENT ON THIS POST.
Thanks, That's really useful!! If I was right, you just installed the 135 real caliper? R they exactally the same with the performance rear caliper? N did u install the performance front calipers?

Last edited by ObiwanChen; 06-08-2012 at 02:50 AM.
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2012, 09:54 AM   #60
johnniewalker
Lieutenant
Canada
5

 
johnniewalker's Avatar
 
Drives: 328 xdrive
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: GTA, Canada


Posts: 552
iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ObiwanChen View Post
Thanks, That's really useful!! If I was right, you just installed the 135 real caliper? R they exactally the same with the performance rear caliper? N did u install the performance front calipers?
I have performance fronts, and 135 rears. They are the same callipers.
__________________
Performance Intake and Exhaust, Apex arc-8, KW v1, Vorshlag camber, ER brake lines, Lux V4, AA tune
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2012, 11:48 AM   #61
Donia330i
Major
United_States
19

 
Donia330i's Avatar
 
Drives: 06 330i SGM
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA


Posts: 1,194
iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnniewalker View Post
I have performance fronts, and 135 rears. They are the same callipers.
pics?
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2012, 01:05 PM   #62
DESI4life10
Banned
Canada
47

 
DESI4life10's Avatar
 
Drives: Coding: Desi4life10@gmail.com
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: West of Toronto, Canada


Posts: 3,365
iTrader: (18)

I don't think having smaller diameter rotors is a good idea for a brake pad that is larger.

Couple things,
- you will start creating a lip on the pad where the unused portions touches.
- a new pad, a good chunk of its braking ability happens towards the outside of the pad (furthest away from hub). This may be something you will feel when trackign the car etc.

The xi ebrake show diameter is the same size as the 335 (I have 335 setup on mines straight bolt on).

Hope all works out for ya guys. The upgrade is amazing (even for 335 oem brake systems)
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2012, 01:44 PM   #63
johnniewalker
Lieutenant
Canada
5

 
johnniewalker's Avatar
 
Drives: 328 xdrive
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: GTA, Canada


Posts: 552
iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DESI4life10 View Post
I don't think having smaller diameter rotors is a good idea for a brake pad that is larger.

Couple things,
- you will start creating a lip on the pad where the unused portions touches.
- a new pad, a good chunk of its braking ability happens towards the outside of the pad (furthest away from hub). This may be something you will feel when trackign the car etc.

The xi ebrake show diameter is the same size as the 335 (I have 335 setup on mines straight bolt on).

Hope all works out for ya guys. The upgrade is amazing (even for 335 oem brake systems)
^ agree with your point, that's the main concern of the swap. Everyone refering to this thread should be aware of this. I woulnt track my car until I find a rotor size that fits and works flawlessly.
__________________
Performance Intake and Exhaust, Apex arc-8, KW v1, Vorshlag camber, ER brake lines, Lux V4, AA tune
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2012, 03:52 PM   #64
e90pilot
Freight Dawg
United_States
40

 
e90pilot's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 325i
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Oakland, CA


Posts: 2,110
iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnniewalker View Post
^ agree with your point, that's the main concern of the swap. Everyone refering to this thread should be aware of this. I woulnt track my car until I find a rotor size that fits and works flawlessly.
I already did track it lol. 3 times too. It's fine so far but I more worried that the two pad "lips" will touch eventually or will break off.
__________________
--Marcelo
'06 Arctic Metallic 325i | Sport Package | 6MT | Dinan Stage III suspension | Dinan exhaust | 330i manifold swap! Click here! | Active Autowerke tune | 135i Brake Calipers | Deiselboost caliper brackets | E46 M3 front rotors
Appreciate 0
      06-08-2012, 11:09 PM   #65
ObiwanChen
Lieutenant
Canada
13

 
ObiwanChen's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 LCI 328xi
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Toronto


Posts: 406
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnniewalker View Post
I have performance fronts, and 135 rears. They are the same callipers.
Do u know how much space between the rotor and pad? Does it enough for the extra 3mm if I use that 325x25 rotors? If it does, I would like to have a try.
Appreciate 0
      06-09-2012, 02:13 AM   #66
johnniewalker
Lieutenant
Canada
5

 
johnniewalker's Avatar
 
Drives: 328 xdrive
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: GTA, Canada


Posts: 552
iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ObiwanChen View Post
Do u know how much space between the rotor and pad? Does it enough for the extra 3mm if I use that 325x25 rotors? If it does, I would like to have a try.
Unfortunately, I didn't measure the exact space between pad and rotor.
__________________
Performance Intake and Exhaust, Apex arc-8, KW v1, Vorshlag camber, ER brake lines, Lux V4, AA tune
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:45 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST