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      05-01-2007, 12:34 AM   #1
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anybody see this black box

65hp is not bad torque is good too

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      05-01-2007, 02:39 AM   #2
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Where are 65hp in these dyno charts? I saw 29hp and 37 lb-ft torques.
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      05-01-2007, 04:29 AM   #3
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Cool! There goes another competition for Shiv! Does the Procede really save gas though? I highly doubt it...
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      05-01-2007, 07:37 AM   #4
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On the highway people have been getting 35 mpg and under normal driving better but when pushing it hard you will lose a few
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      05-01-2007, 09:04 AM   #5
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those people ( any many other ive seen) got shivs Procede and copied it and called it their own....
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      05-01-2007, 11:39 AM   #6
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I believe it's an Xede box. I'm running the AA version and love it! They have a sale going right now too, $1080 complete.
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      05-01-2007, 11:50 AM   #7
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Hi Terry

This RDsport box is an old story. It is $1.500. Thus you like to test, buy one and do a writeup for us . I wouldn't.

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      05-01-2007, 12:13 PM   #8
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This RDsport box is an old story. It is $1.500. Thus you like to test, buy one and do a writeup for us . I wouldn't.

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Nah the AA Xede is a much better deal and better tuned. Last I read RD Sport didn't even have control of spark or fuel yet.
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Nah the AA Xede is a much better deal and better tuned. Last I read RD Sport didn't even have control of spark or fuel yet.
Bingo ! You seem to convert to the right side ...

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The numbers are based on flywheel calculations. You have to convert wheel hp to crank by multiplying by 17%.

The Black Box is indeed a Xede but is not a copy of the proceed in any way. Shiv just implies that it is a copy along with the AA Xede but has absolutely no merit.

It is unnecessary to copy anything. The way it works is pretty simple.

RD Sport Dealers are offering the Black Box on special for $1100. The full retail is $1500.
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The Black Box.

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Nah the AA Xede is a much better deal and better tuned. Last I read RD Sport didn't even have control of spark or fuel yet.
Your post is incorrect. Even the very first beta version of the Black Box controlled both fuel and timing. The current release, 1.0 does all of the above plus removes the speed limiter and is prewired for the upcoming power switch on the center console. Of the three wiring looms available right now, I would dare to say that we have the most elegant solution.

We are still tweaking the maps and I took the car for the weekend after Bimmerfest to do some tuning in real driving conditions. On my way back from Santa Barbara I tested the Black Box (on our own car) vs. a Proceed. Our car is a steptronic and the Proceed was on a manual car. After 4 or 5 runs, all I can say is that the 2 cars were pretty much dead even, albeit ours being an automatic. If anything, we pulled away a bit in 5th and 6thgear. Today we spent all Sunday working on tweaking the maps in the Antelope Valley, were we could simulate almost all driving conditions. I think our car is noticeably faster today than it was yesterday.
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Your post is incorrect. Even the very first beta version of the Black Box controlled both fuel and timing. The current release, 1.0 does all of the above plus removes the speed limiter and is prewired for the upcoming power switch on the center console. Of the three wiring looms available right now, I would dare to say that we have the most elegant solution.

We are still tweaking the maps and I took the car for the weekend after Bimmerfest to do some tuning in real driving conditions. On my way back from Santa Barbara I tested the Black Box (on our own car) vs. a Proceed. Our car is a steptronic and the Proceed was on a manual car. After 4 or 5 runs, all I can say is that the 2 cars were pretty much dead even, albeit ours being an automatic. If anything, we pulled away a bit in 5th and 6thgear. Today we spent all Sunday working on tweaking the maps in the Antelope Valley, were we could simulate almost all driving conditions. I think our car is noticeably faster today than it was yesterday.

I stand corrected, very cool! Come out to LACR next Sunday (German Invasion) and take a few passes.
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      05-07-2007, 08:39 AM   #13
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Whichever sounds the coolest or you like most
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