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      11-05-2012, 09:09 PM   #1
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Turner N52 Stage 1 Perf Pack?

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-11...e-package.aspx

+19hp / +17 tq

anyone else see this? anybody have this? seems counter to the heat-soak claims.
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      11-05-2012, 10:18 PM   #2
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in for details. very interesting.
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      11-05-2012, 10:45 PM   #3
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Isnt there a suspicion that the tune is AA?
So the price includes a 250-300 dollar intake & software?

What about the flash tune cable??

Also notice how the prices fluctuate for various n52 engines
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so AA tune and faulty intake system? that 10% off is tempting, but it doesn't add up even with Turner's name to back it up.
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      11-06-2012, 09:45 AM   #5
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Ill keep my stock intake box and my $700
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Looks like a lame way to sell some useless intakes by bundling them with a tune and charging more for everything. I'm sure all the teens with e90s are looking forward to telling their mates that their BMW is "stage one, bro". Here's hoping stage two involves a sideways baseball cap and sweet muffler.

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+19hp for aFe and software? Thats means +40hp with software only!
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      11-06-2012, 10:38 PM   #9
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+19hp for aFe and software? Thats means +40hp with software only!
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It's quite a claim, that's for sure. Wonder if the euro box, or just a flat drop in filter with the tune would also give those results.
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Can't you sue for false claims ? Lol I hope it comes with a sticker that reads "because racecar <3" lol. When someone actually gets it and can admit to the claims of what turner says, ill just be the sucker that waits. And they claim that's all you need? But I mean it can be possible... very unlikely but possible. An AA tune for 700 plus a free afe CAI? Id be interested
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Can't you sue for false claims ? Lol I hope it comes with a sticker that reads "because racecar <3" lol. When someone actually gets it and can admit to the claims of what turner says, ill just be the sucker that waits. And they claim that's all you need? But I mean it can be possible... very unlikely but possible. An AA tune for 700 plus a free afe CAI? Id be interested
I am sure the promised gains are there under perfect conditions. Lets face it, the aFe filter is the biggest out there and the open air box lets him suck a LOT of air. But driving conditions are far from ideals and the heatsoak that comes with aFe kills the deal.

I thought there was light at the end of the tunnel with the released their new intake, with it was litterally a fart in the bath.
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^ are you talking about the newer closed "Si" box from afe?
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      11-14-2012, 06:08 PM   #14
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Can't you sue for false claims ? Lol I hope it comes with a sticker that reads "because racecar &lt;3" lol. When someone actually gets it and can admit to the claims of what turner says, ill just be the sucker that waits. And they claim that's all you need? But I mean it can be possible... very unlikely but possible. An AA tune for 700 plus a free afe CAI? Id be interested
lol @ sticker joke!

The claim is +19 peak gain which could be a one off maximum from countless dyno pulls. I would bet the average gain to be to be around +5/7hp & tq, mostly from software as the Intake is still stalled by the exhaust. Clever marketing, the sideways ball cap should be included in stage 1 to boost sales.

Oh, and note they claim the engine is tuned for 87 octane, which is false. I bet you would gain an extra 5hp from 87 to 91. I am not willing to put 87 in my tank to find out.
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You can get a ecu remap from what I understand for 400-500 and get +18hp and +20fpt
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You can get a ecu remap from what I understand for 400-500 and get +18hp and +20fpt
Yeah, once again, a peak gain pull. The average gain would be lower.
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