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      05-07-2007, 11:37 AM   #1
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Hey Shiv...what happens to performance with 100 octane gas on a Procede car?

Just wondering if adjustments are made..or if the knock sensor will be less engaged and produce more power. Pls explain...thanks.
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It will produce more power. Usually around 10-15whp more by just adding 100oct with no other other changes.

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It will produce more power. Usually around 10-15whp more by just adding 100oct with no other other changes.

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Interesting. Am I correct that "with no other changes" means you are assuming the standard 91-93 octane map, and stating 10-15 whp? I would just think that with the dedicated 100 octane map, it'd do significantly better than 10-15 hp. Well, at least it'd better for $7 a gallon
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Heh...$4.99 here.
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10 dollars a gallon here...
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Is this also true for the stock ECU? 91 vs. 93 vs. 100 ?
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10 dollars a gallon here...
Hey I know where u can 100 octane for 5.99 out of a pump in huntington.
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Hey I know where u can 100 octane for 5.99 out of a pump in huntington.
Pm me the address please.
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Is this also true for the stock ECU? 91 vs. 93 vs. 100 ?
Nope.
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Interesting. Am I correct that "with no other changes" means you are assuming the standard 91-93 octane map, and stating 10-15 whp? I would just think that with the dedicated 100 octane map, it'd do significantly better than 10-15 hp. Well, at least it'd better for $7 a gallon
Yep... no other changes. Using the same 91-93oct map. It may do a bit more than 10-15whp depending on conditions.

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I "tested" this last month, see my results at:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...highlight=dyno


Keep in mind, I just added a couple gallons 100 Octane to the 91 Octane and within minutes got the improved results. A bit more time (actual drive time, not dyno time) probably would yield a few more ponies.

Now, I haven't tested a 93 Octane pump gas, then pour in 100 Octane to see if the PROcede adjusts even more. But according to Shiv the PROcede will only adjust up to 93 Octane, so adding 100 Octane into a tank that's already pure 93 Octane might do very little.
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10 dollars a gallon here...
$6.94 in West Covina, $7.20 in pomona/chino hills area. If both of these locations are too far for you then check the Sunoco website. You should be able to get 100 octane at the pump for a lot less than 10.00/gallon.
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Hey I know where u can 100 octane for 5.99 out of a pump in huntington.
Where? That is a lot less than the other 76 stations I've been to.
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$6.94 in West Covina, $7.20 in pomona/chino hills area. If both of these locations are too far for you then check the Sunoco website. You should be able to get 100 octane at the pump for a lot less than 10.00/gallon.
West convina and chino hills are far away from me. I benifit more paying the 10 dollars a gallon lol.
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West convina and chino hills are far away from me. I benifit more paying the 10 dollars a gallon lol.
Yeah, I thought I remebered you being down there in OC. I'm waiting to hear where in HB they well 100 for 5.99 though. That is real cheap
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Yeah, I thought I remebered you being down there in OC. I'm waiting to hear where in HB they well 100 for 5.99 though. That is real cheap
Yup. I have a buddy that uses 100 in his evo only. He tells me all the time about the 5.99 a gallon down in HB but i keep forgetting to ask him where in HB.
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Pm me the address please.
Here is for you So Cal People.

San Diego/ El Cajon
off the 8 freeway exit mollison go south first station on the right hand side
110 octane (leaded not for sissies) for $5.99/gal now.

Pasadena
ARROYO PARKWAY 76
155 E GLENARM ST PASADENA, CA 91105
(626) 441-3392
100 Octane Unleaded
At The Pump
$5.99/Gallon

Grand Terrace, off the I-215 (Barton Road exit) between Riverside and San Bernardino.
GT Pit Stop (wheel/tire/basic maintenance speed shop)
22115 Barton Road
Grand Terrace, CA 92313
Ph: (909) 783-0123
VP Fuels Distributor
Any VP fuel offered, although I purchase VP 109 Motorsport unleaded (MON of 101)
Pail only
$40 (might do slightly better if repeat customer)
EDIT: You will need to call and order the VP fuel first. They do not have it in stock, but usually have same day delivery if you order early enough.


Norco (near Corona), the 2nd Street offramp off the I-15 freeway
Norco 76 Service (Unocal 76 station)
2807 Hamner Avenue
Norco, CA
(909) (might be 951 now) 734-2962
100 unleaded was $6.45/gal

Pomona/Phillips Ranch/Diamond Bar area
Phillips Ranch 76
16 Village Loop Road
Pomona, CA
(909) (might be 951 now) 623-2429
100 unleaded at the pump (MON of 96)
Pump only, IIRC
$5.99/gallon last time I was there.

Los Angeles/Santa monica
76 Gas station
Courner of barrington and pico 1 block N of the 10 freeway
101 off the pump
6.99/gallon



Mesa Marin Raceway
SR 178 at SR 184
Bakersfield 661.366.5711
110 Octane

Willow Springs Motorsports Park
3500 75th Street West
Rosamond 661.256.2471
100 octane is 5.50 a gallon and the same for 110

Los Angeles County
Irwindale Speedway
1330 E. Liveoak Ave
Irwindale 626.358.1100
100, 110 Octane

Brentwood 76 Service
12037 San Vicente Blvd
Los Angeles 310.476.9496
100 Octane

Pico Ave. 76 Service
11675 Pico Blvd.
Los Angeles 310.479.9496
100 Octane

Arroyo Parkway 76
155 E. Glenarm
Pasadena 626.441.3392
100 Octane - $6.40/gal

Cosby Oil Co.
12902 E. Park St
Santa Fe Springs 562.946.4404
100, 110, 114, 118 Octane

Canyon Services
507 Entrada Dr
Santa Monica 310.454.2619
100, 110 Octane

South hills 76 Service
150 S. Citrus
West Covina 626.339.8018
100 Octane

Orange County
Mark's 76 Service
2043 Commonwealth
Fullerton 714.278.0986
100 Octane for 5.99/gal

Laguna Hills Auto Spa
25172 Cabot Road
Laguna Hills 949.770.8300
100, 110 Octane
100 is 7.99

Dave's 76 Service
619 E. La Habra Blvd.
La Habra 714.801.3918
100 Octane

Graham 76 Service
2690 San Miguel Blvd
Newport Beach 949.644.7151
100 Octane


San Diego County
Cosby Oil Co.
6220 Fairmount Ave.
San Diego 619.280.6884
100, 110, 114, 118 Octane


San Gabriel County
San Marino 76
2390 Huntington Drive
San Marino 626.286.6030
100 Octane


Riverside County
Mike's 76 Service
2807 Hamner Ave
Norco 909.734.2962
100 Octane

Ventura County
Agoura 76
28203 Dorothy Drive
Agoura Hills 818.991.6241
100 Octane

Corona 76 right off ontario and the 15 fwy has Toroco 110 leaded for 40$/5gals

Vance & Hines
motorcycle center
10950 Tuxford St., #1
Sun Valley, 91352
(818)768-9026
They carry 112

Agoura 76 - at the Chesbouro off ramp of the 101 freeway in Agoura.
28203 Dorothy Dr.
Agoura Hills (818) 991-6241

Fishback Motorsports *
El Cajon (619) 912-3876

Huntington Beach Car Wash
18971 Beach Blvd.
Huntington Bch. (714) 847-4924
100 octane - $5.79/gal

J & R Shell
1808 White Ave.
La Verne (909) 593-7015

Brentwood 76 Service
12037 San Vicente Blvd.
Los Angeles (310) 476-4818

Graham 76 Service
2690 San Miguel Rd.
Newport Bch. (949) 644-7151

Norwalk 76 Service Center *
10951 W. Imperial Hwy.
Norwalk (562) 868-8659
CALL AHEAD TO VERIFY SUPPLY OR ORDER.

Southern Counties Oil *
1825 W. Collins
Orange (714) 744-7140

Arroyo Parkway 76 *
155 E. Glenarm
Pasadena (626) 441-3392

Osborn═s 76 Service *
1870 S. Elena
Redondo Beach (310) 373-5043
www.osbornauto.com

Cosby Oil Co. *
6220 Fairmount Ave.
San Diego (619) 280-6884

Star Propane *
4426 W. First St.
Santa Ana (714) 839-7676
110 LEADED fuel if they have any

Cosby Oil Co. *
12902 E. Park St.
Santa Fe Springs (562) 946-4404
www.cosbyoil.com

Canyon Service & Detail - Uses unocal gas*
507 Entrada Dr
Santa Monica, CA 310-454-2619

* Sears Point, Unocal 76
100 Octane unleaded (blue)╩
114 Octane leaded (orange)╩
Sears Point Raceway in Sonoma, CA.

KRS Distributing *
8230 Pacific
Stanton (714) 816-8983

Downs Oil Co. VP
42088 Rio Nedo, Suite 101
Temecula (909) 506-4545
110 = $5.17/gallon + tax
112 = $5.87/gallon + tax

Playa Vista 76 *
8300 Lincoln Blvd
Westchester (310) 649-4683

Kahn 76 Service
150 S. Citrus
West Covina (626) 339-8018
This has been reported to be OPEN 24 HOURS!

Woodland Hills, Alliance
Trickl 101 Octane╩
Woodland Hills, CA. Northwest╩corner of DeSoto and Van Owen

Merritt Oil in Rialto, VP distributor for fontana and pomona, Call Tim 909-633-6004

Ford Performance Solutions
1004 E. Orangefair Ln.
Anaheim CA 92801
(714)773-9027
A 5 gallon bucket is $44.00

This place has the cheapest prices on racegas and they carry 100, 104(not too sure), 110 and 118. I believe they sell 118 for about $5.35 a gallon.

www.wotperformance.com
Ask for Pete and tell him Vince sent ya.
951-734-6560
12321 Sampson Suite o,p,q
riverside, ca 92503

Shell station in North Hills/Sepulveda
15805 Roscoe Blvd.
818-892-3365
5gal drums of Trick 110 octane
$37.95 currently

Union 76 on Victory and Platt in West Hills
sells 5 gallon cans - $7/gal
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Here's one you missed. About 7.35/gallon but you have to pay inside
Mitchell's Auto Service
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(714) 532-5900
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10 dollars a gallon here...
$6.00 in Agoura hills / Thousand oaks area
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Nice list. Just for added info Pomona is 7.20/gallon now not 5.99. I just called and HB is 5.89 which is a nice price indeed
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$6.49 at the Alliance in Simi Valley, but they offer a $1.99 touchless drive through carwash.
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