3L twin turbo engine - which model next? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

danielt · 05-10-2007, 03:28 PM

Hi I understood the 3L twin turbo engine was going into the 5 series (in Australia - it appears in European 5's) but a quick glance of the new Australian 5 series website suggests the new 5 at least for now isn't getting the twin turbo engine (530 -> 540). any ideas which model will next get the 3L twin turbo? the 1 series?

VGR00 · 05-10-2007, 05:13 PM

I would have thougth the 5 series would have been a natural progression. That said, it wouldn't be out of e question to make an even hotter hot hatch out or the 1 series. The chasis can handle it.

CaptOz · 05-11-2007, 04:28 AM

A 1-series would be a rocket with the twin-turbo engine. Perhaps coming close to the new M3 in 0-100kph times.

Cheers.

docbeemer · 05-11-2007, 04:36 AM

^ and for that reason we will NOT see a 135i. They do not want to have a car which could steal potential M3 sales from their own stable. Just look at how much they left on the table (re: potential perfomance) with the 335. They purposely left a big performance gap between the 335 and the M3 to try to justify the massive price difference.

The logical progression is a 535 next but they won't release details of that until they sort out their 525, 530, 540, 545, 550 mess (too many models in my opinion). BMW is as much a marketing company as they are a car manufacturing company.

CaptOz · 05-11-2007, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by docbeemer

^ and for that reason we will NOT see a 135i. They do not want to have a car which could steal potential M3 sales from their own stable. Just look at how much they left on the table (re: potential perfomance) with the 335. They purposely left a big performance gap between the 335 and the M3 to try to justify the massive price difference.

The logical progression is a 535 next but they won't release details of that until they sort out their 525, 530, 540, 545, 550 mess (too many models in my opinion). BMW is as much a marketing company as they are a car manufacturing company.

Never a truer word has been spoken Doc.

Cheers.

BMW //MPOWER · 05-11-2007, 05:05 AM

Seriously though, a 135i would be seriously fast, honestly i don't think it would steal sales from the 3er or anything, as the 130i didn't and that was a very fun and rather fast car.
With the 5er i believe that they will go with the 525i, 530i, 535i and 550i, but yeah i agree with doc on there being too many damn 5er models if they don't delete any...

danielt · 05-11-2007, 06:01 AM

They've added a 523 (according to the new BMW Australia 5 website special)!.... so it goes 523, 525, 530, 540, 550!!

BMW //MPOWER · 05-11-2007, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by danielt

They've added a 523 (according to the new BMW Australia 5 website special)!.... so it goes 523, 525, 530, 540, 550!!

I've got a hunch that they'll bring the 5er engine range into line with the 3er, so i suspect the 530i may get ditched for the 535i... i didnt think they still had the 540i, but the more 8's the better in my book.

1q2w3e4r · 05-11-2007, 07:57 AM

I don't agree that a hotted 1 series would steal sales from the M3. People who buy M's don't cross shop across the brand or brands like that, there's more to a car than 0-100 km/h times. An M car will always be something much more special than a run of the mill BMW IMO.

mosport70 · 05-11-2007, 08:07 PM

I would love to see the N54 in the X5... then add Procede

danielt · 05-12-2007, 05:54 PM

Yeah, i don't know why they don't add it to all Series, I would think it would be a popular model of choice!!

astra · 05-12-2007, 05:58 PM

^^ that's true i think

99% of the e92's i have seen are 335's... and i see ALOT of 130's

CaptOz · 05-12-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by astra

^^ that's true i think

99% of the e92's i have seen are 335's... and i see ALOT of 130's

That's only because you keep seeing mine when you drive past the car wash 100 times a day.

Cheers.

astra · 05-12-2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptOz

That's only because you keep seeing mine when you drive past the car wash 100 times a day.

Cheers.

once a week, maybee... just happened to be 4 the other day cos i drove to uni and had to go back to the city at night

100 times a day? you wish

CaptOz · 05-12-2007, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by astra

once a week, maybee... just happened to be 4 the other day cos i drove to uni and had to go back to the city at night

100 times a day? you wish

At least you could toot your horn, wave....heck, even yell abuse as you drive past. I'll take anything.

Cheers.

Sephanite · 05-12-2007, 07:03 PM

z4 with twin turbo would be fun

BMW //MPOWER · 05-12-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sephanite

z4 with twin turbo would be fun

Yes & no, there is still 1 issue with the z4 which irks me, it's too darn heavy!!
Send it off to fat camp, drop 300kgs or so out of it, then throw in the 3.0ltr bi-turbo in it and your talking about a real fun car!

astra · 05-13-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sephanite

z4 with twin turbo would be fun

what's wrong with the Z4M?

VGR00 · 05-13-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW //MPOWER

Yes & no, there is still 1 issue with the z4 which irks me, it's too darn heavy!!
Send it off to fat camp, drop 300kgs or so out of it, then throw in the 3.0ltr bi-turbo in it and your talking about a real fun car!

I agree .... it has much greater potential with a small weight loss as the package is great.

CaptOz · 05-14-2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by astra

what's wrong with the Z4M?

You're right astra. There already is a high-powered Z4 with a sweet in-line six.

Mind you, the twin turbo with a PROcede....magic.

Cheers.

astra · 05-14-2007, 02:09 AM

M motor + twin turbo + PROcede + some magic = possible soiled pants

CaptOz · 05-14-2007, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by astra

M motor + twin turbo + PROcede + some magic = possible soiled pants

Very true though.

With such brilliant M & twin turbo engines today, we can certainly look forward to an exciting future of BMW development.

Cheers.

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docbeemer First Lieutenant Drives: E92 SG 335i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 306 iTrader: (0)	^ and for that reason we will NOT see a 135i. They do not want to have a car which could steal potential M3 sales from their own stable. Just look at how much they left on the table (re: potential perfomance) with the 335. They purposely left a big performance gap between the 335 and the M3 to try to justify the massive price difference. The logical progression is a 535 next but they won't release details of that until they sort out their 525, 530, 540, 545, 550 mess (too many models in my opinion). BMW is as much a marketing company as they are a car manufacturing company. __________________ 335i \| 6MT \| SG \| Jade Grey \| Poplar Grain Grey \| 19" 230 rims \| Sunroof \| NAV with TV & voice control \| HiFi \| Sport Suspension \| Rear Sunblind \| 35% tints

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VGR00 Major Drives: 125I Edition Sport Carbon Blk Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brisbane - Australia Posts: 1,440 iTrader: (0)	I would have thougth the 5 series would have been a natural progression. That said, it wouldn't be out of e question to make an even hotter hot hatch out or the 1 series. The chasis can handle it.

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CaptOz Captain Drives: Porsche 911 Carrera S Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 833 iTrader: (0)	A 1-series would be a rocket with the twin-turbo engine. Perhaps coming close to the new M3 in 0-100kph times. Cheers.

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danielt First Lieutenant Drives: E92 335i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cairns (Great Barrier Reef), Australia Posts: 381 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E92 335i [0.00]	Yeah, i don't know why they don't add it to all Series, I would think it would be a popular model of choice!!

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astra Brigadier General Drives: BMW 325Ci Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 3,748 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 325Ci Individual [0.00]	M motor + twin turbo + PROcede + some magic = possible soiled pants __________________

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