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      12-01-2011, 10:01 PM   #23
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from what i experienced...
i picked up my car in Oct of 2010 and the service was done right before i picked up the car with 33k miles. drove the car about 10k miles and about July of 2011 the ticking issue appeared slowly so its not the cold weather that plays the major effect. i wasnt due for another maintenance for another 7k miles according to my dash so i drove the car only once a week which is on saturday for about 200 miles.

then as i got closer to the maintenance down to about 5k miles i took the car in for brake pad replacement and also asked for the maintenance but was turned down because their limit was 2k miles at most.

so then about Sept 2010 i took the car and recorded it then took it in and the lifters were replaced with oil change and the noise was gone.

now Dec 2011 i have 47k miles on the car and its been about 5k - 7k miles since the replacement and ticking is coming back. im finally due for that maintenance and actually over by 700 miles.

so my guess is that its the engine oil that has something to do with it as well. seems like when its new and fresh it works fine, but once you go over that 5k - 7k miles it seems to come back slowly (tick). but its also not like you can take it in for a service when ever you want either.

im sure head and lifter replacement will do some what of a fix but im beginning to think its not just that, perhaps its that these engines parts werent designed correctly with the BMW maintenance intervals like they should be.
That's interesting because from what I've read in this thread and others, the head and lifter replacement fixes most everyone's problem with the lifter tick. I actually had the ticking two nights ago and took my car into the dealer, showing the video evidence. The dealer called me today and they are replacing the lifters. Hopefully the head will be next and then I will be done with it. If not, It's time for an M3
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That's interesting because from what I've read in this thread and others, the head and lifter replacement fixes most everyone's problem with the lifter tick. I actually had the ticking two nights ago and took my car into the dealer, showing the video evidence. The dealer called me today and they are replacing the lifters. Hopefully the head will be next and then I will be done with it. If not, It's time for an M3
yes it is true that when lifters are replaced the problem is drastically fixed. and the ultimate solution is the head replacement and that usually fixes the issue of the ticking noise for good.

but this current thread isn't the only thread towards this issue. if anyone is in doubt, check out the older or the oldest threads concerning this issue, there are plenty of forum member who still have the issue even after the head replacement... some even had it replaced twice and still have the issue coming back.

it was a mear self examined point of view towards the cure of the issue since the OP and others might not be with in warranty time frame. and if for some odd reason head replacement isn't fixing the issue, then oil change intervals are the only thing average person can do in terms of fixing the issue if he/she doesn't have the comfort of warranty or CPO benefit(s) with in their means. i mean some of us on the forum are doing the oil change intervals at 5k miles anyways even though BMW sugests 15k miles... plus im sure its not too frequent of intervals to do any harm either.
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I can hear the lifter tick on average about once a month. I always wondered why I can hear it sometimes and then other times it sounds perfectly normal. Anyway I change my oil every 5K and am currently out of warranty. I figure if the lifter tick is due to poor oil circulation then having fresh oil in there can't hurt.
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yes it is true that when lifters are replaced the problem is drastically fixed. and the ultimate solution is the head replacement and that usually fixes the issue of the ticking noise for good.

but this current thread isn't the only thread towards this issue. if anyone is in doubt, check out the older or the oldest threads concerning this issue, there are plenty of forum member who still have the issue even after the head replacement... some even had it replaced twice and still have the issue coming back.

it was a mear self examined point of view towards the cure of the issue since the OP and others might not be with in warranty time frame. and if for some odd reason head replacement isn't fixing the issue, then oil change intervals are the only thing average person can do in terms of fixing the issue if he/she doesn't have the comfort of warranty or CPO benefit(s) with in their means. i mean some of us on the forum are doing the oil change intervals at 5k miles anyways even though BMW sugests 15k miles... plus im sure its not too frequent of intervals to do any harm either.
I would completely agree. I would be curious as to how the N52 holds up at say 130 or 150k miles with using only the BMW intervals.
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This is my first post so i would first like to say i have found a lot of very useful info on this site and it has helped me drastically with isuues/concerns with my BMW.

I just recently purchased my vehicle. It is an 08 328i. Within a week of purchasing it i also heard the ticking noise that everyone is talking about. It is currently in the shop getting new lifters. The reason i am posting is to also say that the TSB out for this problem now also says to replace the rockers. That was some info that i had not seen posted so i thought i would mention it. Ive been told the reason behind this is that the new rockers and lifters actually have a very small hole in the top of them to release air that gets trapped inside the lifter. Ive been told that the trapped air is actually what causes the tick. Not sure if any of this is true but it seems to make sense. I have a lot of experience with push rod V8's and these motors all have holes in the top of the lifters, which vent air through the push rod and out the rockers.
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This is my first post so i would first like to say i have found a lot of very useful info on this site and it has helped me drastically with isuues/concerns with my BMW.

I just recently purchased my vehicle. It is an 08 328i. Within a week of purchasing it i also heard the ticking noise that everyone is talking about. It is currently in the shop getting new lifters. The reason i am posting is to also say that the TSB out for this problem now also says to replace the rockers. That was some info that i had not seen posted so i thought i would mention it. Ive been told the reason behind this is that the new rockers and lifters actually have a very small hole in the top of them to release air that gets trapped inside the lifter. Ive been told that the trapped air is actually what causes the tick. Not sure if any of this is true but it seems to make sense. I have a lot of experience with push rod V8's and these motors all have holes in the top of the lifters, which vent air through the push rod and out the rockers.
hmm i have not heard this before... do you mind posting up the new TSB and also the paper work when you get your vehicle back?

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hmm i have not heard this before... do you mind posting up the new TSB and also the paper work when you get your vehicle back?

thanks.
I'll see what info i can get when i get my car back. I'm actually really good friends with the BMW technician thats doing the work and i got to take a look at the car while it was apart and i also looked at the updated rockers and lifters. Everything looks exactly the same if you dont know what your looking for. I dont think the hole in the rocker is even big enough to fit a needle through. Like i said, i'm not sure if the story ive been told about trapped air causing the ticking is true, but its not completely unbelievable.
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I'll see what info i can get when i get my car back. I'm actually really good friends with the BMW technician thats doing the work and i got to take a look at the car while it was apart and i also looked at the updated rockers and lifters. Everything looks exactly the same if you dont know what your looking for. I dont think the hole in the rocker is even big enough to fit a needle through. Like i said, i'm not sure if the story ive been told about trapped air causing the ticking is true, but its not completely unbelievable.
Yes, please post up whatever info. you can. Where on the East Coast are you?
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I recently had the same ticking problem in my 2007 328i and had the lifters and rocker arms replaced under the CPO warranty. So far the ticket hasn't returned. The bulletin is SIB 11-09-07. Here's the parts list:

(1) 11-12-7-582-245 Profile Gasket
(12) 11-33-7-605-330 Hydr. Valve Pushrod
(12) 11-33-7-631-589 Roller Drag Lever
(1) 11-31-7-534-251 Gasket Ring
(2) 11-36-7-524-954 Collar Screw
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I recently had the same ticking problem in my 2007 328i and had the lifters and rocker arms replaced under the CPO warranty. So far the ticket hasn't returned. The bulletin is SIB 11-09-07. Here's the parts list:

(1) 11-12-7-582-245 Profile Gasket
(12) 11-33-7-605-330 Hydr. Valve Pushrod
(12) 11-33-7-631-589 Roller Drag Lever
(1) 11-31-7-534-251 Gasket Ring
(2) 11-36-7-524-954 Collar Screw
I will have to post the parts list later but I just picked up my 330 from the dealer and they replaced the rocker arms along with the lifters. We will see how it goes.
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I recently had the same ticking problem in my 2007 328i and had the lifters and rocker arms replaced under the CPO warranty. So far the ticket hasn't returned. The bulletin is SIB 11-09-07. Here's the parts list:

(1) 11-12-7-582-245 Profile Gasket
(12) 11-33-7-605-330 Hydr. Valve Pushrod
(12) 11-33-7-631-589 Roller Drag Lever
(1) 11-31-7-534-251 Gasket Ring
(2) 11-36-7-524-954 Collar Screw
Sorry it took me awhile to get back on here and respond. This parts list is exactly what was installed in my vehicle and that is the correct SIB number also. The ticking noise is gone. Im in maryland.
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I'll see what info i can get when i get my car back. I'm actually really good friends with the BMW technician thats doing the work and i got to take a look at the car while it was apart and i also looked at the updated rockers and lifters. Everything looks exactly the same if you dont know what your looking for. I dont think the hole in the rocker is even big enough to fit a needle through. Like i said, i'm not sure if the story ive been told about trapped air causing the ticking is true, but its not completely unbelievable.
Interesting. That would make sense. I would expect the hole to be a lil larger to prevent sludging though.
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I recently had the same ticking problem in my 2007 328i and had the lifters and rocker arms replaced under the CPO warranty. So far the ticket hasn't returned. The bulletin is SIB 11-09-07. Here's the parts list:

(1) 11-12-7-582-245 Profile Gasket
(12) 11-33-7-605-330 Hydr. Valve Pushrod
(12) 11-33-7-631-589 Roller Drag Lever
(1) 11-31-7-534-251 Gasket Ring
(2) 11-36-7-524-954 Collar Screw
this is exactly what was replaced on my vehicle when i went through the lifter replacement while back. i do not think this is any newer or added TSB from BMW. if this is the latest TSB, then it seems to have stayed the same since i last searched and got my 328i fixed.

im sure this is also still calling for same 2 step process as well... first the lifters then the heads.

either way its something everyone with CPO or warranty should immediately try to get it fixed before its too late.

if any one wants more in depth info read this thread.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=540055
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I had this problem Thanksgiving day or the day before. After speaking with my friend, one of the possibilities of this problem is the bad circulation, or lack of adequate oil. Knowing that I had a head gasket leak or a leak in that vicinity, I was losing oil so for a quick fix I poured a quart of oil and it never came back. Hopefully that bit of info helped.
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Do not follow the maintenance reminder. Change the oil earlier 5000 miles is max not 15,000 mile...its mud by then. Just look at your oil cap, all that crud build up.

I would rather change the oil and suck up the 130.00 then changing the cylinder head and having to change parts in the engine or the engine...just my 2 cents

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Do not follow the maintenance reminder. Change the oil earlier 5000 miles is max not 15,000 mile...its mud by then. Just look at your oil cap, all that crud build up.

I would rather change the oil and suck up the 130.00 then changing the cylinder head and having to change parts in the engine or the engine...just my 2 cents
BMW cycle maintenance is at 15,000 miles. of course that includes many other check ups and replacements along with that maintenance but most german cars are same, whicn in turn is same with mercedes and audi. if you take it to the dealer for an oil change they will say you dont need one. but since they are there to make money, i am sure they wont refuse you when you offer money.

it is true for many cars that its 3000 to 5000 miles for change, but most cars hold just adequate amount of oil for the size of the engine. BMW I-6 and MB V6 hold about 9 qt of oil which in turn is way more than needed amount... for comparison, my LS1 V8 engine held only about 7 qt. usually. so i guess the theory behind it is that more amount of oil to circulate = longevity and im pretty sure BMW and MB uses some sort of cylinder lining and various other technology to prevent the need of oil like most garden variety engines need.

hell porsche maintenance cycle is at 20,000 miles. after the first one at 6,000 miles. and i believe its even 10,000 miles for the newer Jags.

the days of 3000 miles oil changes are long gone for high end cars.
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I have the same problem just come up. It's really loud! I gave a indy shop a copy of the tsb/sib and they told me it's common problem an they quoted me 1200.00 to fix n need 2 days! Is there a DIY on this ?? I have 123,000 miles on the car n hate to pay this huge bill.
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2 days is ridiculous. i don't think it takes that long. I am quite sure the dealer swapped the lifters within a day and he was complaining about being short staffed. Unfortunately no DIY. would imagine it is quite complex to do.
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you're assuming the shop will only have this 1 job to do in all that time.. usually indy shops need to balance their time with a few customer cars, plus emergencies that come in.
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you're assuming the shop will only have this 1 job to do in all that time.. usually indy shops need to balance their time with a few customer cars, plus emergencies that come in.
I understand they might schedule different, that wasn't why I made my statement. It sounded as though the indy was telling him it is a 2 day job in terms of chargeable hours. I was just pointing out the job itself doesn't take that long.

Does anyone know how many hours this job takes? That way the parts can be priced out as well and we could get a clear idea of cost.
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I have the same problem just come up. It's really loud! I gave a indy shop a copy of the tsb/sib and they told me it's common problem an they quoted me 1200.00 to fix n need 2 days! Is there a DIY on this ?? I have 123,000 miles on the car n hate to pay this huge bill.
If $1200 is for parts and labor, that sounds very reasonable, less than I would have thought. Make sure you get some type of warranty that they will make good if the ticking comes back.
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