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      11-30-2011, 06:43 PM   #1
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Chaps does anyone know where I can look to see what the difference is between the Msport suspension and the stock suspension

I'm having a real hard time working out which suspension package to get, apart from just buying the 'm3 conversion pack' and just swapping out everything.
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There is a BMW suspension specialist shop in Artarmon under the name of Zintow Chan's Low Low Car. You need a translator but it's worth it in the end.
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Or bring me along
i speak chinglish so should be able to translate for you

anyways;
do you not have m-sport? go aftermarket its generally always better than stock
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Or bring me along
i speak chinglish so should be able to translate for you

anyways;
do you not have m-sport? go aftermarket its generally always better than stock
heck I am asian and I still need a translator when talking to FOBs
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mmm i spend alot of time in chinatown so im kinda used to it...
They ask me in mando/canto and i reply in engrish lol

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Chaps does anyone know where I can look to see what the difference is between the Msport suspension and the stock suspension

I'm having a real hard time working out which suspension package to get, apart from just buying the 'm3 conversion pack' and just swapping out everything.
What exactly did you want to know?

- Msport rides 10mm lower than stock
- Spring rate is approx 20lb/in firmer in the front (120 -> 140) and 100lb/in firmer in the rear (350 -> 450)
- Shocks are designed to control body roll a little better at the trade off of ride comfort.

As for the upgrade path:

1. Get coilovers (KW/Bilstein/AST)
2. Upgrade control arms (if needed)
3. Upgrade sway bars (if needed)

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Are upgrades due to sway bars alone noticeable?
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Chaps does anyone know where I can look to see what the difference is between the Msport suspension and the stock suspension

I'm having a real hard time working out which suspension package to get, apart from just buying the 'm3 conversion pack' and just swapping out everything.
What exactly did you want to know?

- Msport rides 10mm lower than stock
- Spring rate is approx 20lb/in firmer in the front (120 -> 140) and 100lb/in firmer in the rear (350 -> 450)
- Shocks are designed to control body roll a little better at the trade off of ride comfort.

As for the upgrade path:

1. Get coilovers (KW/Bilstein/AST)
2. Upgrade control arms (if needed)
3. Upgrade sway bars (if needed)

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I guess you nay have just said it. Is it just spring rates and lower?? Or are the toe rods, bushings trailing arms, sway bars different?
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Are upgrades due to sway bars alone noticeable?
Yes, but given a chain is only as strong as the weakest link, you're probably better off upgrading springs/shocks first...

that said, you can still upgrade the sway bar, especially if you have Msport suspension which is decent enough already.
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I guess you nay have just said it. Is it just spring rates and lower?? Or are the toe rods, bushings trailing arms, sway bars different?
Thats correct...

non Msport + msport share all the other suspension components except for springs and shocks.

m3 has it's own unique components.

If I was looking to improve handling I would go:

- Bilstein PSS10 coilovers
- M3 control arms (with upgraded bushes)

and I'm pretty sure I'd be very happy with that setup along with 90% of other people
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Thanks that makes sense
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