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      12-07-2011, 04:25 PM   #1
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Falken fk452 quick review on 335i!

Just had a set of 225 40 18 front and 255 35 18 rears fitted to my 335i. Previously had Goodyear rfts on the front and michelins rfts on the rear.

The goodyears still had 4-5mm tread, so I almost went with just new rft rears. The goodyears are for sale if anyone is interested?

Initial thoughts (600 miles) are very positive, loads of grip, better ride and less road noise. I haven\'t noticed any less steering feel as experienced by others but have thought that the better ride inspires more confidence on tight twisty roads.. My car is modded, around 420hp and 400tq but the tyres seem more able to put this down than the previous ones.. Hopefully they last as long as the last set, more than 20k miles.

Only issue i have noticed is a little more tram lining on the motorway.

Overall for the price, £450ish fully fitted I\'m happy. I could have spent another £300 easy for premium tyres but would prefer to keep the cash before Xmas!!
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My car has a lot more steering feel with non-RFT than with RFT. When I went to my winter tyres last year it was from 18" staggered RFT (Bridgestone fronts). I didn't really notice a loss of steering feel, just a much better ride.

This year I went from 17" non-RFT (P Zero Rosso fronts) to the same winter tyres (WRG2) and have lost a lot of steering feel, which suggests to me the RFT were not great in this regard.

I'm not bothered, the WRG2's excel at what they were designed to do, but in my case the (electric, sadly, in my case) steering seems a lot less offensive with non-RFT summer tyres than with RFT or winters.
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I haven\'t noticed any less steering feel as experienced by others but have thought that the better ride inspires more confidence on tight twisty roads..
+1

The bumpsteer(?) from the Bridgestone RFTs on rough roads really put me off pushing on. Changed to Conti 5ps last month and the difference is huge!

For example driving over cats eyes while changing lanes used to feel like driving over a 1/2 brick, now I don't notice them. More importantly now I don't have to worry about finding an imperfection in the road surface when I am at speed and halfway round a tight bend.
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I haven\'t noticed any less steering feel as experienced by others but have thought that the better ride inspires more confidence on tight twisty roads..
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The bumpsteer(?) from the Bridgestone RFTs on rough roads really put me off pushing on. Changed to Conti 5ps last month and the difference is huge!

For example driving over cats eyes while changing lanes used to feel like driving over a 1/2 brick, now I don't notice them. More importantly now I don't have to worry about finding an imperfection in the road surface when I am at speed and halfway round a tight bend.
They also seemed to cause the rears to skip and lose traction when accelerating hard on anything but good surfaces. Not such an issue anymore..

The difference is pretty stark, even with a 'reputedly' budget tyre.
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They also seemed to cause the rears to skip and lose traction when accelerating hard on anything but good surfaces. Not such an issue anymore..

The difference is pretty stark, even with a 'reputedly' budget tyre.
+1.

I used to hate that when running rft's!.
Also the grip in wet was rubbish and everytime u touch pot hole felt like the suspension was going to collapse!
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They also seemed to cause the rears to skip and lose traction when accelerating hard on anything but good surfaces. Not such an issue anymore..

The difference is pretty stark, even with a 'reputedly' budget tyre.


my rears "skip" a lot aswell....can't wait to make the move to non rft!
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Only issue i have noticed is a little more tram lining on the motorway.
I'm surprised at that, mine was reduced, although my car was on 19's
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+1

The bumpsteer(?) from the Bridgestone RFTs on rough roads really put me off pushing on. Changed to Conti 5ps last month and the difference is huge!

For example driving over cats eyes while changing lanes used to feel like driving over a 1/2 brick, now I don't notice them. More importantly now I don't have to worry about finding an imperfection in the road surface when I am at speed and halfway round a tight bend.
Snap!
I went from rfts to conti 5ps on 19s and the difference is priceless all as mentioned. No tramlining tho. The car handles perfectly id say. I did go for the xl tyres to help with sterring feedback as recommended
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Good stuff Phil.

I put them on my E90 330i a few years back, very good they were too.

Quite 'slim' compared to Contis / PS2s etc, without the bloated look that the former have.

Might even get my 12mm spacers back on with a set of them as they're just that bit narrower.

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my rears "skip" a lot aswell....can't wait to make the move to non rft!
Mine seems to be the same, even with the improved LCI suspension set up. So may well be the tyres.
In contrast the 1 series I had the other was brilliant, none of this skipping.
TBH not sure what tyres were on the 1 series (run flat or non run flat), I just know they were Dunlop SP Sport or something....

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I am considering on purchasing the falken 452 for my 08 335D as I have bridgestone run flats on them and not very impressed by them. I think my tyres are the same as yours (front 225/40/18 and rear 255/35/18), what speed rating did you go for? and are they XL?
also what psi are you running them on?

Ive had a quick look on camskill I can get a set delivered just shy of 400 which isnt too bad imo
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How much does fitting Falken's effect the resale value? ie putting non-premium brand tyres on a premium car?
Not saying Falken's are bad - but you know what dealers are like when it comes to part ex'ing.
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A BMW dealer may well knock you back a bit when trading in because you don't have runflats. Others seemingly do not notice or care.
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what speed rating did you go for? and are they XL?
also what psi are you running them on?

Ive had a quick look on camskill I can get a set delivered just shy of 400 which isnt too bad imo
You need to match or exceed the given speed rating for your car. Y is probably what you'll need for your 335d, the Falkens seem to all be XL at our sizes.
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How much does fitting Falken's effect the resale value? ie putting non-premium brand tyres on a premium car?
Not saying Falken's are bad - but you know what dealers are like when it comes to part ex'ing.
Depends if the wife kerbs the alloy wheels after fitting.
The Falkens dont have rim saver lips on them.

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A BMW dealer may well knock you back a bit when trading in because you don't have runflats. Others seemingly do not notice or care.
My pal just bought an AUC 3.0 Z4 a few months back and turned up here with it - and its new Falken 452s shining
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My pal just bought an AUC 3.0 Z4 a few months back and turned up here with it - and its new Falken 452s shining
Exactly - at trade-in a dealer will moan about no RFTs, wanting money off, but have no intention of changing them and you'll often see used BMs at dealers with non RFTs on.

Just used-car-salesman-blag, nothing special about BMW traders.
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Good stuff Phil.

I put them on my E90 330i a few years back, very good they were too.

Quite 'slim' compared to Contis / PS2s etc, without the bloated look that the former have.

Might even get my 12mm spacers back on with a set of them as they're just that bit narrower.
I'm running 15mm spacers on the rear of my E91 with 18" Falken 452s, no issues. Pics in a thread I started a while back.
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I think my tyres are the same as yours (front 225/40/18 and rear 255/35/18), what speed rating did you go for? and are they XL?
also what psi are you running them on?

Ive had a quick look on camskill I can get a set delivered just shy of £400 which isnt too bad imo
I was gonna order via camskill, but when I got a quote for fitting it was about the same total.

The falkens are y rated.

35 psi front 38 psi rear at the moment, may experiment a little..
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I'm running 15mm spacers on the rear of my E91 with 18" Falken 452s, no issues. Pics in a thread I started a while back.
Is yours an LCI? They're 24mm wider rear track than pre-LCI (12mm per side) but with the same wing/arch, so running 12mm spacers on an LCI is like running 24mm spacers on a pre-LCI.

Mine rubbed ever so slightly at the rear with 12mm spacers on and chunky walled Conti 3's....
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Exactly - at trade-in a dealer will moan about no RFTs, wanting money off, but have no intention of changing them and you'll often see used BMs at dealers with non RFTs on.

Just used-car-salesman-blag, nothing special about BMW traders.


When I traded my 335i in it had 452's fitted and the salesman didn't notice.

I received a phone call the next day, asking if I still had the RF's as they needed to return the car to factory spec. I told him I didn't and he was a bit miffed.

Having since been contacted by a forum member,who's the new owner. It appears they have fitted RF's

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Is yours an LCI? They're 24mm wider rear track than pre-LCI (12mm per side) but with the same wing/arch, so running 12mm spacers on an LCI is like running 24mm spacers on a pre-LCI.

Mine rubbed ever so slightly at the rear with 12mm spacers on and chunky walled Conti 3's....
Ah, missed that bit. Sorry, no - mine is pre-LCI.
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