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      12-08-2011, 06:31 PM   #1
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New here - future BMW 320d or 320I - seeking advice

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I am new to this forum.
I am in the decision making process of buying a BMW...well I balanced BMW against Audi A4 (quattro) and Lexus IS250 and BMW won. Rear wheel drive (better than A4), cheaper to run (better than IS250), ligher, 4 cylinders (cheaper rego).

Anyway, i would like to get a 320i . I am having one tested sometimes over the next few days...manual, about 70k on the clock from 2005 i think. I have heard all sorts of stories - too slow, too many problems, etc.
Are they all true? I mean the poor car has 140hp (nothing to write home about), and it is quite heavy. Maybe with some light modifications I can bring it up to 170 (intake, exhaust, chip?) - any suggestions?
I am after a manual one, therefore a 320d is ALMOST out of the question. I mean, seeing the type of mods you can do on a diesel version and get up to a considerable power...makes me think that an auto is not such a bad idea. But i got so used to manual that it will be very hard to go back to auto.(used to drive auto for quite a long time...and i am sick of it). Is there any way I could bolt a manual trans on auto? I mean ...change it with a manual.

Anyone here with a 320I? Is it that slow? How can I make it go a bit quicker?
Bear in mind that i drive an IS200 with manual transmission and is quite ok. I am quite happy with the power...ofcourse is never enough but I could use some more ommph.

Thanks in advance.
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PWOH will be here any moment and he will clear the air for you.

Clear the air that was a good one hehehehehe
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lol pcock
SBC probably will also tell us about his powerhouse 320i vs 320d loaner he recently enjoyed
320i engine doesnt have much left, I doubt you could achieve those power increases...
If you are really wanting to go manual I'd suggest you go for a 6cyl model
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there's only 2 things wrong with a 4cyl BMW, the 2 mising cylinders...... geddit 2 things, ahh the kids would be proud.
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sideways markets got you bored aye
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sideways, what market are you looking at? actually watching the cricket and paying out the Kiwis in the office.
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Are they all true? I mean the poor car has 140hp (nothing to write home about), and it is quite heavy. Maybe with some light modifications I can bring it up to 170 (intake, exhaust, chip?) - any suggestions?
I am after a manual one, therefore a 320d is ALMOST out of the question. I mean, seeing the type of mods you can do on a diesel version and get up to a considerable power...makes me think that an auto is not such a bad idea. But i got so used to manual that it will be very hard to go back to auto.(used to drive auto for quite a long time...and i am sick of it). Is there any way I could bolt a manual trans on auto? I mean ...change it with a manual.

Anyone here with a 320I? Is it that slow? How can I make it go a bit quicker?
Bear in mind that i drive an IS200 with manual transmission and is quite ok. I am quite happy with the power...ofcourse is never enough but I could use some more ommph.

Thanks in advance.
Hi Hawk

Welcome to E90post and congrats on deciding 3series.
2011 Manual 320i 0-100=9sec
2011 Auto 320d 0-100= 7.7sec
No brainer if you can live with auto and diesel clatter.

Wow you are happy with IS200....
I had IS200 auto as my old car and i glad i got rid of it...... 0 power i am sorry.

Anyway for your case if must manual i suggest you getting 325i Manual.
For your new car, you really want to get something that blow IS200 manual out of water rather than something similar.

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You know me too well bro LOL
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stocks, trying to offload some ILU shares. Waiting on CNY's retail sales figuires then i be going to admire the other gender from a distance
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stocks, trying to offload some ILU shares. Waiting on CNY's retail sales figuires then i be going to admire the other gender from a distance

my screen tells me we are down 50 odd points ATM, its red red red. I'm thinking of going to the pub and see if there's any money in the pokies

BTW what CNY?
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325i is good with a manual, 323i will also be fine. I think a 320i will keep you busy shifting gears for limited performance and might be hard to sell afterwards. Anyway please report back with your thoughts after the test drive. Unfortunately there isn't much that can be done to modify the non-turbo BMW's economically, so I think its better to buy a six cylinder in the first place.
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my screen tells me we are down 50 odd points ATM, its red red red. I'm thinking of going to the pub and see if there's any money in the pokies

BTW what CNY?
CNY = Chinese New Year duh!
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While everyone bags out the 320i, I can think of one pretty good reason, it will help you keep you license

If you don't look at the speedo, you could swear the car is going fast and the engine sounds good revving too. I had a 320i loaner for 1.5 month and I really can't complaint

Still feels like a sport car but the cops will never pull you over.. Win!
I have got done speeding bad in my 335i...
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i would say go diesel !! i'm a diesel fan !! first it's cheaper to run second it has more power and the addictive torque . And third diesel engines are less prone to have problems compared to petrol. I would not go for a petrol in the 4 cyl it's too sluggish. but the diesel is a 4cyl turbo
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Diesel do have turbo lags while NA felt way more responsive when u floor it. But diesel felt more powerful once torque kicks in.

320i can get performance exhaust which blows your mind while d still sound like a tractor.

320i is much easier to get parts from US while alot of 320d parts can only be purchase from uk.

But D is faster more fuel efficient and have greater performance increase when chipped due to turbo.

So u decide what ever suit u.

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While everyone bags out the 320i, I can think of one pretty good reason, it will help you keep you license

If you don't look at the speedo, you could swear the car is going fast and the engine sounds good revving too. I had a 320i loaner for 1.5 month and I really can't complaint

Still feels like a sport car but the cops will never pull you over.. Win!
I have got done speeding bad in my 335i...
Dunno about that my old E90 320i didn't fell very sporty....
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Hmm, thats all sounds interesting. Unfortunately, the budget wont allow me to get the 325...but it sounds very tempting.
Yes, the IS200 in manual was/is ok. Not superpower there but enough to make me "kinda'" smile sometimes. It is lighter than the BMW and it goes ok. But the k's are building up so it needs another home to go to.

Yes, maybe the diesel is a good option (given that I can chip it and add some horsies) but man, I would hate to get an auto...it feels like someone else is driving it...not me.
If I go 6 cyl, might as well get the IS250...same number of cyl, about the same fuel consumption, etc. i am just thinking here, so please dont go bashing me for mentioning the name of a Jap car on here...
I guess, i will give you more feedback once I test drive the BMW 320I. I hope I wont be too dissapointed.

Any known problems with it? Anything I should be AWARE off?
What is the power (Australian delivered) of the 320I? How about 320D?
Is there a chip I could use to release some ponnies off the 320I? Or is just a lost CAUSE?

Cheers for your adivces so far.
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Is there a chip I could use to release some ponnies off the 320I? Or is just a lost CAUSE?
Is a lost cause just make it look good and sound good.

I guess you could purchase ARMA supercharger not sure how expensive it is though...
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Any known problems with it? Anything I should be AWARE off?
What is the power (Australian delivered) of the 320I? How about 320D?
Is there a chip I could use to release some ponnies off the 320I? Or is just a lost CAUSE?.
you wont get alot of power chipping a N/A car.
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I am having a guy coming up as we speak to test drive the base 320I in manual. I will report back with impressions about it. The guy was quite concerned that it might not live up to my expectations in terms of power.
With my IS200 I fell a bit of oomph...not kapow oomph...but some punch when I need it. On the other hand maybe is my driving that needs some adjusting. But I am sick of slow cars...used to drive some fast ones (gto's, S2000, 200SX) so driving this would defo be something slower (DUH!!!!).
But who knows, maybe as you sugested a ARMA supercharger would probably brign the "se*y back"."
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