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      12-24-2011, 08:35 AM   #45
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awesome, glad you got it working. You will have to do a full description of how you wired it all up with the voltage drop so others can be sparred the headache.

First thing is to buy the right unit from Aquamist... HE505 flow sensor from Howerton Engineering (speak to Jeff)
It is actually very simple but sounds more complicated than it really is!!
I will take some pics and give a detailed description of what to buy and how to hook it up for those of us that need pictures to DIY.

Here are the resistors that you would need to buy...they are very cheap about $1.20 for each pack.

You take the 2.2K resistor and the 1k resistor and tie them together making sure you know which side is the 2.2k because that side has to hook up to the aquamist yellow wire or else your voltage will not be reduced by half..

(Note the color of the wires are just a representation of wires to show you, the only true wire shown is the yellow wire of aquamist unit as I have no idea what color choice of wires your Procede flow wire and ground is!!!l)

The red wire represents the Procede flow wire coming from the Procede harnass (used to read flow for Procede)
You solder the red wire in BETWEEN the two resistors as shown or just twist it and make sure the connection is good
The green wire is at the end of the 1k resistor which represents the ground (grounded to chassis)
Shrink tube the entire wire where resistors are and your done

Finish wiring the rest of the wires from the Aquamist flow sensor

Red and green wire (connect both to each other) to 12 volt switched power
Blue wire connects to ground
Yellow wire (shown above with resistors)

Goto Procede and do a log to see what it flows and then enter it into Procede reader flow injection %. It should read flow of 20-22, if it reads higher you have the resistors switched around, no problem just go back and switch the wires around at the end of the resistors.
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Just got back from testing the power nozzle(nitrous). So both M10 and M7 nozzles was injecting and the flow sensor performed flawlessly! With both nozzles the flow showed 29 as suppose to with just M10 which flowed at 21. I did mutiple runs and each time the power nozzle kicked in the flow jump to 29 and steady and when I back off of WOT, it reduced to 21 and stayed steady...So far so good compared to the readings of the Snow Performance safeinjection....I use to see varying flow numbers when the power nozzle kicked in and it was NEVER consistent, so for flow readings this unit seems to have a better reading of flow..
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Too bad I purchased the SP failsafe recently.

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Too bad I purchased the SP failsafe recently.

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Listen the Snow unit when working it was fine..If your unit works all the time then there is no problems. My issue was mine worked sporadically and thats not good for performance consistency.. If your unit also shows flow one run and then nothing the next, then its the failsafe.. So far there are maybe only two people that I know that have issues with the Snow failsafe. Maybe I have a defective unit who knows.
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Listen the Snow unit when working it was fine..If your unit works all the time then there is no problems. My issue was mine worked sporadically and thats not good for performance consistency.. If your unit also shows flow one run and then nothing the next, then its the failsafe.. So far there are maybe only two people that I know that have issues with the Snow failsafe. Maybe I have a defective unit who knows.
My unit works perfectly all the time and get good readings every time I use meth injection. The only thing is that I get high meth flow numbers when meth starts flowing.

The flow is steady and the failsafe reads normal numbers even when downgrading from M10 to M7 injector (trying to get fuel trims better). It doesn't read higher compared to the crappy Labonte failsafe.
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My unit works perfectly all the time and get good readings every time I use meth injection. The only thing is that I get high meth flow numbers when meth starts flowing.

The flow is steady and the failsafe reads normal numbers even when downgrading from M10 to M7 injector (trying to get fuel trims better). It doesn't read higher compared to the crappy Labonte failsafe.
When meth injects and you get that little spike in flow, thats normal as long as it quickly stabilizes to its actual flow reading. That happened with my Labonte and Snow unit as well, but as for the Aquamist unit, so far I have not noticed this spike on any of my logs!. No worries as it looks as though your unit if in perfect working condition. This thread is just me ranting about my defective unit as it seems, who knows. If Snow unit ever decides to go south like the Labonte one, its always good to know there is yet another alternative for us guys that use the PPS kits.. One thing about the Snow unit is, if you decide to use two large nozzles in the future, it will eventually break the flow wheel according to the techs at Snow Performance. They said it was not capable of flowing two M10 nozzles or even one M10 with a M7 together. If you do it will eventually seized the flow measuring wheel. Tech told me its only capable of flow of just one M12 nozzle at max if you had to.. That sucks as most of us are running much more than that.
Maybe thats what happened to my unit!

BTW...I think the metal meth lines are really nice for sure...I would get them in a heart beat.
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When meth injects and you get that little spike in flow, thats normal as long as it quickly stabilizes to its actual flow reading. That happened with my Labonte and Snow unit as well, but as for the Aquamist unit, so far I have not noticed this spike on any of my logs!. No worries as it looks as though your unit if in perfect working condition. This thread is just me ranting about my defective unit as it seems, who knows. If Snow unit ever decides to go south like the Labonte one, its always good to know there is yet another alternative for us guys that use the PPS kits.. One thing about the Snow unit is, if you decide to use two large nozzles in the future, it will eventually break the flow wheel according to the techs at Snow Performance. They said it was not capable of flowing two M10 nozzles or even one M10 with a M7 together. If you do it will eventually seized the flow measuring wheel. Tech told me its only capable of flow of just one M12 nozzle at max if you had to.. That sucks as most of us are running much more than that.
Maybe thats what happened to my unit!

BTW...I think the metal meth lines are really nice for sure...I would get them in a heart beat.
Thanks for the feedback cn! That was really helpful.

Yes, the spike stabilizes the very next moment. I'm not intended to use more meth injectors, maybe I'll roll back to M7 or M7+M5 after I upgrade to bigger turbos (I hope the next few months).

As for the metal meth lines... I'll order them next week and post some DIY and impressions (meth leaks will eventually disappear).

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Thanks for the feedback cn! That was really helpful.

Yes, the spike stabilizes the very next moment. I'm not intended to use more meth injectors, maybe I'll roll back to M7 or M7+M5 after I upgrade to bigger turbos (I hope the next few months).

As for the metal meth lines... I'll order them next week and post some DIY and impressions (meth leaks will eventually disappear).

Merry X-mas !
No Problem man...Merry Christmas to you also my friend
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Just a final test of overflow detection for people using the Procede and Aquamist flow sensor and still running the PPS kit with it, you can buy with confidence that it is compatible with this setup. Its also compatible with 100% methanol. I have tested using one nozzle and two nozzles flowing flow maxed at 1200+ ml/min (M10+M7) and it works perfect with Procede, and I am sure it will work with JB tune also but you need to confirm with Terry. I have NOT tested dual nozzles of (M10+M10) so I cannot give feedback for this dual setup and if you have this, you would need to test it out for yourself. I also tested intentionally taking out the meth line from nozzle to test if overflow detection was still working and indeed it triggered Procede to read overflow detection and go into valet mode. If you buy this flow sensor which I highly recommend if your old one craps out, you just need to wire it in with resistors as I have shown above and you are all set.
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thanks for the info!
No problem man! It was well worth experimenting but I am glad it worked out because I would have been out 189 bucks for the new sensor and the older version one for 60 bucks..To date this is the BEST flow sensor that I am using. Flow readings are accurate, precise and incredibly fast..
I think if I would have hooked up the resistors to the procede flow wire and also the resistors to the power wire this would have worked! Either way I am selling the older unit to someone who can use it for their application, but my gut feeling is that it will work for me too. So if it doesn't sell I will use it as a spare.

I added a Aquamist filter to my meth system and its hooked up right to pre-sensor flow fittings, it can also work for people not using the Aquamist flow sensor too...All you have to do is hook it up to your meth solenoid inlet...Take out the push fitting and install it on the filter's inlet and you done!
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Sold the older unit that i bought for 65 and recouped all my money back for it so it was worth the hassle to get me where I am now with my new flow sensor. Right now its working perfect with 100% methanol mix which I added a couple of days ago. If your in the market for a flow sensor this is the way to go. I give a big thumbs up! Snow Performance is junk compared to this flow sensor
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Just a quick update. 8 months of running 90/10 mix and this sensor has not missed a beat. Many hours of the sensor soaking in the 90/10 mix as I don't use this car as daily driver. Each time out the sensor works without a hitch!
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Just a quick update. 8 months of running 90/10 mix and this sensor has not missed a beat. Many hours of the sensor soaking in the 90/10 mix as I don't use this car as daily driver. Each time out the sensor works without a hitch!
Did you buy the sensor from Jeff Howerton? Anybody else stock these? It seems like no one has one in stock!!
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Yes I bought it 8 months ago from Jeff at howerton. I had no idea they are sold out. Did they say when they will get it back in stock? Even if the Aquamist is on back order, do not get the Snow performance flow sensor if you plan on running a larger nozzle than M7 or plan on using meth/volume greater than 50/50 because it will crap on you because the flow wheel is not made for that high of concentration of meth. It will expand and deform and no longer spin to read flow correctly
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Yes I bought it 8 months ago from Jeff at howerton. I had no idea they are sold out. Did they say when they will get it back in stock? Even if the Aquamist is on back order, do not get the Snow performance flow sensor if you plan on running a larger nozzle than M7 or plan on using meth/volume of 50/50 because it will crap on you also
I have the Vishnu PWM kit. I believe the flow sensor is shot so just want a replacement. Talked to howerton. Not in stock and no eta!
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ugh! I put a cancel on the snow performance (thanks for the heads up cn555ic) and was going to order one from howerton today. Just noticed the order page is down for the 100-1500ml version (it was up a day ago), http://www.howertonengineering.net/p...B47%7Dmin.html

That's the one we need right???

There is still a 100-1200ml one listed, but it has the 1/8" connectors.

Looks like no meth for me for a while longer.
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ugh! I put a cancel on the snow performance (thanks for the heads up cn55ic) and was going to order one from howerton today. Just noticed the lorder page is down for the 100-1500ml version (it was up a day ago), http://www.howertonengineering.net/p...B47%7Dmin.html

That's the one we need right???

There is still a 100-1200ml one listed, but it has the 1/8" connectors.

Looks like no meth for me for a while longer.
Sad, but the HE505 is out of stock with no eta as per Howerton!
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ugh! I put a cancel on the snow performance (thanks for the heads up cn555ic) and was going to order one from howerton today. Just noticed the order page is down for the 100-1500ml version (it was up a day ago), http://www.howertonengineering.net/p...B47%7Dmin.html

That's the one we need right???

There is still a 100-1200ml one listed, but it has the 1/8" connectors.

Looks like no meth for me for a while longer.
When you order you ask them for the 1/4 OD compression fittings instead of the 1/8 connectors Yeah the HE505 is the one we need as the other doesn't have high enough flow readings and can cause overflow conditons. Don't get the Snow as it also failed on me too, until I found the aquamist unit. Don't make my mistake, go straight to Aquamist unit.
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Sad, but the HE505 is out of stock with no eta as per Howerton!
WTF! How can they allow this to be on B/O. Bad business as I would have stocked up heavily on this flow sensor knowing other flow sensor were crap! Damn.
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WTF! How can they allow this to be on B/O. Bad business as I would have stocked up heavily on this flow sensor knowing other flow sensor were crap! Damn.
Jeff said they are making more shortly, he just does not have a firm date. If he had to guess, 2-3 weeks out.
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Alright. 2 to 3 weeks is not bad.
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