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      12-16-2011, 03:04 AM   #45
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I think he is referring to when the angel eyes are lit up. The outer ring will always be a little more yellow because it's fiber optic. The inner ring is not fiber optic.

When the lights are off, they should look the same.
They are on my car...
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How about the issues of the HID's cuasing the AE rings to become yellow over time from too much UV exposure?
I do know i worked on a car once that had HID lights and they did yellow / discolor the inner and outer rings. I have no idea what brand bulb they were using however
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I think he is referring to when the angel eyes are lit up. The outer ring will always be a little more yellow because it's fiber optic. The inner ring is not fiber optic.

When the lights are off, they should look the same.
Exactly. That's what one of the OSS people told me before when I wanted to buy mtec hid bulbs for the hids. He said it wouldn't make a difference because the outer ring will always be a bit yellow due to the fiber optics.

And like I said, the outer ring was a bit yellow since day one of my hid kit, so it had nothing to do with the UV causing the yellowing. My angel eyes look the same since day one and I have not noticed any more discoloring.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-in...discharge_lamp

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Most HID lamps produce significant UV radiation, and require UV-blocking filters to prevent UV-induced degradation of lamp fixture components and fading of dyed items illuminated by the lamp. Exposure to HID lamps operating with faulty or absent UV-blocking filters causes injury to humans and animals, such as sunburn and arc eye. Many HID lamps are designed so as to quickly extinguish if their outer UV-shielding glass envelope is broken.
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      12-17-2011, 10:01 PM   #49
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Great job on the coding, I made this awhile back.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=398208
One day i'll learn how to code. hahaha. As for the UV everyone is right and mine have discolored slightly. Very hard to capture this in a photo because its very subtle. I have researched many bulbs on hidplanet and other forums. Unfortunately the only testing that has been done was on the d1s bulbs. I purchases morimoto bulbs which are supposed to be constructed with the same UV blocking glass that its sibling d1s bulb uses. According to my research morimoto bulbs have decent UV blocking ability.
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...l=1#post371183
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Is there any way to code out the interior dome lights and license plate light?
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wow pretty nice, thanks for the info
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Is there any way to code out the interior dome lights and license plate light?
IDK about coding but we do offer lights that work without coding for both of those areas.
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the interior lights shouldn't need any coding - but lets try to keep this thread on track
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I've been thinking about modifying the ballast so that when the headlights are on, the angel eyes are reduced to 20 watts. That would prevent the rings from getting washed out at night.
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I've been thinking about modifying the ballast so that when the headlights are on, the angel eyes are reduced to 20 watts. That would prevent the rings from getting washed out at night.
Is that possible? I don't think you can dim HID lights. Please let us know if you can.
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Is that possible? I don't think you can dim HID lights.
You can't fade them on or off, but you can lower the wattage. Many people have potted oem ballasts to increased the output. Search HID planet and you'll find several DIY's.

I'm not saying it's possible with the exact ballast I have, but it is possible on some. I won't know until I crack it open and find out.
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hey Rotary Rasp thank for helping every one out and post this but i am totally new just bought my 335i everything in the picture u show i understand but the par


((Step six: disable soft illumination
NFRM module - change WL_SL_1 to hart_einschalten (this removes the on/off fading for the angel eyes)

Step seven: disable angel eye bulb check
NFRM module - change CC_MELD_RL_BL_1_ALS_TFL to nicht_aktiv

Step eight: disable angel eye dimming
NFRM module - PWM_RL_BL_1_FKT_SL change value to wert_01

(OPTIONAL) Step nine: disable angel eye PWM

Read the NFRM module. Then take the NETTODAT file and make a copy to compare from.
Now change PWM_RL_BL_1_FKT_SL wert_01 to wert_06 and recode the car.
Now read the module again and compare this NETTODAT file to the last.
You'll find 2 bytes (values) that changed.
Then you change them:
[ 2C 0C ]

Save this NETTODAT and recode using the NETTODAT instead of the normal MAN file.

Step ten: Enjoy, you're done! }


i have no idea where or how to do this can you please go the extra miles and help me out post some picture or even a youtube DIY would be great if it not too much asking thanks you
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hey Rotary Rasp thank for helping every one out and post this but i am totally new just bought my 335i everything in the picture u show i understand but the par


((Step six: disable soft illumination
NFRM module - change WL_SL_1 to hart_einschalten (this removes the on/off fading for the angel eyes)

Step seven: disable angel eye bulb check
NFRM module - change CC_MELD_RL_BL_1_ALS_TFL to nicht_aktiv

Step eight: disable angel eye dimming
NFRM module - PWM_RL_BL_1_FKT_SL change value to wert_01

(OPTIONAL) Step nine: disable angel eye PWM

Read the NFRM module. Then take the NETTODAT file and make a copy to compare from.
Now change PWM_RL_BL_1_FKT_SL wert_01 to wert_06 and recode the car.
Now read the module again and compare this NETTODAT file to the last.
You'll find 2 bytes (values) that changed.
Then you change them:
[ 2C 0C ]

Save this NETTODAT and recode using the NETTODAT instead of the normal MAN file.

Step ten: Enjoy, you're done! }


i have no idea where or how to do this can you please go the extra miles and help me out post some picture or even a youtube DIY would be great if it not too much asking thanks you
Read up in the coding section. Everything can be found there.
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I emailed DDM regarding potting their ballast. They replied quickly and said that it would be hard to do because they gel fill their ballast to make them waterproof. Sure enough, they weren't kidding.
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On another note, I made an important discovery last night. It appears like the angel eyes do have UV filters. If you look closely where the light enters the fiber tubes, you'll see a small glass UV filter. You can't see it very well in my picture, but it is there.
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DDM just shipped mine...cant wait but now I gotta wait for Antiks to help me code these on ;/
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DDM just shipped mine...cant wait but now I gotta wait for Antiks to help me code these on ;/

damn, yours shipped quick. They did say mine was back-ordered when I ordered it though.
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On another note, I made an important discovery last night. It appears like the angel eyes do have UV filters. If you look closely where the light enters the fiber tubes, you'll see a small glass UV filter. You can't see it very well in my picture, but it is there.
Yea I knew there must have been a filter there. I mentioned earlier that this piece is on my E90 and most of the time when you install aftermarket LED angel eyes, you need to remove that filter. Which isn't a problem with LEDs because LEDs only emit the color temp they are rated for. They don't emit a broad spectrum like HIDs do.
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HID AEs are still going strong.


Got about 1500 miles on them already.
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Got about 1500 miles on them already.
Thanks for posting this! I'm most likely going to go this route. From your experience with AE's, do you think there is a way to dim the inner ring a little? I don't like how the inner light housing gets lit up by the AE and prefer it to be just the rings that gets lit if you know what I mean. This might not be possible just due to the way the AE are designed but there might be a way to lessen the effect.
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Thanks for posting this! I'm most likely going to go this route. From your experience with AE's, do you think there is a way to dim the inner ring a little? I don't like how the inner light housing gets lit up by the AE and prefer it to be just the rings that gets lit if you know what I mean. This might not be possible just due to the way the AE are designed but there might be a way to lessen the effect.
It's the design of the angel eyes that produces this effect. If you look at my post on the last page, I linked to a picture of the E92 ring design.

You can try putting some kind of diffuser in there but it's a tight space. The only way you'll be able to adjust the ring brightness is if you use 2 different light sources.
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