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      08-01-2013, 09:53 PM   #1
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How many hours of labor should I pay for?

Took my e92 took an independent shop for an oil change and some other minor work. I had a set of angel eyes out in addition to a fog light out. I bought some new bulbs online and was going to have them change them all for me while they were working on it. (stupid for not DIY, I know)

I am having them replace the following (to HID so that they will all match)

2 fog lights (H8)
2 angel eyes (H8)
2 cornering lights (H3)
1 reverse light

Keep in mind that I bought the bulbs, so they're not charging me for that.

Now that I look, there are youtube videos of folks changing a corner and angel eyes in 4 minutes, 3 seconds while holding a camera. It takes them 2:45 to do a fog light. So, both sides would total 15 minutes. Maybe 10 minutes to do a reverse light? That comes out to a half hour of labor.

They want to charge me for 3 hours of labor @ $100/hour. I'm obviously getting screwed here.

How much time do you think is fair for me to pay them for?
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      08-01-2013, 09:56 PM   #2
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LOL 3 hours?! You should be paying them only for one hour. Jesus what a rip off..
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      08-01-2013, 10:00 PM   #3
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Fine another shop. Become friends with an Indy tho. I go out to dinner, get drinks, and track events with the guys from the shop I go to.
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      08-01-2013, 10:03 PM   #4
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now that i look closer, they're actually trying to charge close to 4 hours:

0.8 hours per foglight (1.6)
1 hour per angel eye/corner (2)
.3 for reverse...

total is 3.9!?
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      08-01-2013, 10:16 PM   #5
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lol
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      08-01-2013, 10:19 PM   #6
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thanks for the replies. multiple lols confirm what i already knew.
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      08-01-2013, 10:25 PM   #7
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thanks for the replies. multiple lols confirm what i already knew.
Good gosh. You're halfway there with getting the bulbs yourself. You should already know where I'm going with this. Get some tools with a six pack and sit in your garage. Visit the DIY section and have fun.

Good grief what is he doing building over your bumper for replacements?
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I talked to the shop owner this morning. He spoke with the tech who put in the bulbs and has decided to change the labor for that part of the work from $390 to $75.

Knowing that I am basically paying for convenience in having them do it, I was expecting to pay $50 or $100 for the bulb labor going in, so I'm happy.
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      08-02-2013, 07:57 AM   #9
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now that i look closer, they're actually trying to charge close to 4 hours:

0.8 hours per foglight (1.6)
1 hour per angel eye/corner (2)
.3 for reverse...

total is 3.9!?
That right there is a red flag that they are dishonest greedy bastards. I bet you would be able to do it cheaper at a damn dealership. Tell them they are out of their minds and do it yourself. You won't believe how easy it is.
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      08-02-2013, 11:32 AM   #10
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Dude angel eye bulbs should only take 10 minutes per side. 2 fucking hours?! I'd tell him to get bent. Find a new shop.
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They likely just used book rates for the labor which is very high compared to the real world sometimes. Based on the fact that he adjusted the charge they probably just charged for the actual time spent. You're lucky. Most shops won't do that for you.
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      08-02-2013, 12:51 PM   #12
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I am pretty sure you could install all those bulbs yourself and then go eat a sandwich in under an hour.
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You cant find someone to do it for you for a case of beer?
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      08-02-2013, 12:56 PM   #14
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I talked to the shop owner this morning. He spoke with the tech who put in the bulbs and has decided to change the labor for that part of the work from $390 to $75.

Knowing that I am basically paying for convenience in having them do it, I was expecting to pay $50 or $100 for the bulb labor going in, so I'm happy.
Thats more like it, I'd pay $75 for "Convenience" if I really really really have to.
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I am pretty sure you could install all those bulbs yourself and then go eat a sandwich in under an hour.
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i say grow some balls! work on your own car! if you have time to drive it to the shop you can install them
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      08-02-2013, 01:15 PM   #16
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Yea the first 3 items are all in the same location so labor should only be charged once. Unless he plans to open up everything and then button it all back up 3x in a row to do this job??

I'm glad you got it talked down to a more reasonable $75... time is money and I think it's a fair deal at that price.
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oh my...
I hit a deer yesterday costing me 3k in estimated damages but this story is much worst. =(
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I am pretty sure you could install all those bulbs yourself and then go eat a sandwich in under an hour.
This man speaks the truth.
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