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      01-14-2012, 05:54 PM   #111
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Yeah..it looks like they have much more room this time! It would be nice if some participants bring their Vboxes.
C'mon, bring yours in whatever vehicle you have at the time (the d, or your new 4cyl).
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Reminds me to start a list for those who have signed up. If you have signed up, please reply with your info and I will add you to the list. Maybe we can also add engine/drivetrain mods as I'm sure we will all be running each other:

1) Longboarder; 2010 e92 335i 6AT; 450 HP est (Procede, Meth, DCI, dps, LSD)
2) SIKH335; 2007 e92 335i 6AT; 480 HP est (mods?)
3) SRanch335i; e92 2008 335i 6MT; 450 HP est (JB4, Meth, DCI, dps, FMIC, Stett Charge Pipe, LSD)
4) Jeef; e92 2009 335i 6?T; ??? HP est (Cobb AP, DCI, dp's, FMIC)
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7) Shiv, 2007 335i, Single Turbo (we can hope!)
I will be there. 2011 c63 with filters, headers, and tune. 570hp crank.
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Yeah..it looks like they have much more room this time! It would be nice if some participants bring their Vboxes.
Are you going? If so I'd love to use your vbox for some runs in my car.
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I will be there. 2011 c63 with filters, headers, and tune. 570hp crank.
570 HP!!! Damn your C responded well to those mods. Out of curiosity, how much did the filter/headers/tune cost?


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Oh sorry im AT.. Not sure what my hp is haha
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Oh sorry im AT.. Not sure what my hp is haha
just estimate your flywheel HP. i think it's a required field in the shift-s3ctor online sign up sheet.
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570 HP!!! Damn your C responded well to those mods. Out of curiosity, how much did the filter/headers/tune cost?


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About $5K for everything. Stock dyno was 370whp/370wtq. Modded it put down 472whp/431wtq.
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I was wondering if all of you have speed De-limiters? And if not, even though your speedo may indicate faster, I believe on GPS the governor kicks in around 151-152mph actual. My Vbox only graphs to 149mph for some reason, but you can see even on my regular 124.8-125.2mph runs, 150mph is reached way before the 1/2 mile mark.

1320ft 1/4 mile, 124.8, 2640ft 1/2 mile mark 150 (speed governor).

As you can see in the graphs I am hitting 149mph at 2423ft at full 200ft before the 1/2 mile mark.

Did anyone have problems with the speed governor the last time out, or are all of you delimited?

And is the 1/2 mile between the cones with a 40mph rolling start? If that is so, you would hit the speed limiter way before 1/2 mile, as my run was from a standing start.

Anyone have any delimited 1/2 mile Vbox graphs to post?
I just bought a SLD (speed limit defeat) from Burger. I dont have the sport ed. so my car was limited at 130.
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just estimate your flywheel HP. i think it's a required field in the shift-s3ctor online sign up sheet.
alright well 400 i guess haha
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alright well 400 i guess haha
Got it.

I moved the attendee list to the very first post on page 1 for easier reference.
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Are you going? If so I'd love to use your vbox for some runs in my car.
I was just going to contact you to make sure you knew about this event. My car is in my garage 100% stock now. I just took out the JB4 a couple hours ago. You know, after modding little by little, you don't realize how much work it is to restore the car to stock. So now, I won't be bringing this car. I just found out the M-Sport N20 may not be available till Sept! If its the weekend, I would go and watch (Sat/Sun). We still need to test your car on a 0-150, 60-130, etc down here. Text me when you want to do it!

Got the 126mph Qtr mile run out of the Vbox SD card. (It was actually 125.9 on the graph). So my lightweight exhaust gave me at least a .50mph trap speed increase over my previous 125.3mph runs.

For comparison sakes, here is a couple of nitrous runs after the non nitrous graph. Highest was 131.2 mph on the nitrous
With the nitrous you can see I hit 120mph over 100ft sooner than without it.
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I'm signed up as well and paid!!

Longboarder, you can update your first page.

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Longboarder, you can update your first page.

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Awesome! Are you 6AT or 6MT?

Looks like you, SRanch335 and I have just about the same mods, so it will be interesting to see how we do against each other, especially if we are all full weight.
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Awesome! Are you 6AT or 6MT?

Looks like you, SRanch335 and I have just about the same mods, so it will be interesting to see how we do against each other, especially if we are all full weight.
Good luck guys! Are some of you bringing go-pros, etc? On the last event..the website videos showed only the finish line...they should have shown more of the cars as they approached the finish line.
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Awesome! Are you 6AT or 6MT?

Looks like you, SRanch335 and I have just about the same mods, so it will be interesting to see how we do against each other, especially if we are all full weight.
Oopps. Forgot that.. Auto!

It should be fun! I'm running the full weight though I'm tempted to pull the seats out maybe onsite but we'll see! Good times!!
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I was just going to contact you to make sure you knew about this event. My car is in my garage 100% stock now. I just took out the JB4 a couple hours ago. You know, after modding little by little, you don't realize how much work it is to restore the car to stock. So now, I won't be bringing this car. I just found out the M-Sport N20 may not be available till Sept! If its the weekend, I would go and watch (Sat/Sun).
It's on Saturday Feb 25th. I think to watch, you need to come with someone registered. I'm sure someone can pick you up on the way.
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Good luck guys! Are some of you bringing go-pros, etc? On the last event..the website videos showed only the finish line...they should have shown more of the cars as they approached the finish line.
Warren, the event is on a Saturday. So why don't you just cruise up with me? Should still be a lot of fun just to spectate. I'll even drive.
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Warren, the event is on a Saturday. So why don't you just cruise up with me? Should still be a lot of fun just to spectate. I'll even drive.
Sounds like a plan...at least I can record some video also!
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To bad you are just coming as a spectator. All you had in the car was

-JB
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Why not throw them back in and come.

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The stock turbo 335's wont run as strong as they do at sea level at this elevation, the same as the Willow event the only way for Hotrod to get some good clean data is to throw his 4 mods in and bring the car.

I mean what perfect time to do it open event 6 more modded 335's same conditions same strip everything the same. Really to be there as a spectator I can already tell you that you won't be able to refrain from your deductive reasoning of comparing your car to those at 1600 plus elevation which would be a biased comparison. Even comparing your run with Xtyper at sea level to his run at this event with other cars would be biased. But I'm sure you will do what you will do.

I think the best thing to do is come with the car the N20 is obviously not here yet to buy. I think this would be the first unbiased runs that you are able to run with multiple tuned cars.

You should bring the car
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To bad you are just coming as a spectator. All you had in the car was

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Why not throw them back in and come.
No way..it was actually a lot more work than I thought it would be trying to get the work done in my free time. I'm sick of having installed..removed...installed downpipes, exhaust systems, etc several times in the last month. I'm selling my 24lb exhaust system though..would be perfect for roll on races. Im 95% sure I won't even have this car by the time the event comes around next month. Hence..it is 100% stock now.

But really.. weather is cool..and you will get your best numbers near sea level. Can't wait to see some vbox graphs on your car too! You are right about the elevation. Cars will be slower, and I can guarantee you won't hit 126mph traps up there, or a 8.39 60-130 time. Thats why I am telling you, why not find ideal conditions, near sea level and test your car on a vbox? I mean, you need to instrument your car to see how it performs. Wouldn't you want to show your best numbers rather than the slower numbers at higher elevation? FYI: Sacramento is the same elevation as where I test anyways.

So its plain physics. If you have good temps, similar slope to my runs, they are absolutely comparable. As good as people trying to compare dyno numbers or different race tracks. Why wouldn't it be comparable? Its not like I test on a road with low rolling resistance or something, LOL. Instead of being at the mercy of the conditions that day, you can test numerous times and show us when you get some good Vbox numbers. I would assume if you had already hit a 126mph Vbox trap you would have already shown it. Why wouldn't you? Not that I would be surprised, with the boost levels, racing fuel, intercooler, etc...you will probably beat my numbers if you haven't already. It would just be cool to see your acceleration graphs.

The Vbox numbers don't lie. That is why when I was running Eric and our cars were running neck and neck, the Vbox numbers totally supported this also. Perhaps we will be able to test Eric's white C63 on the same test road down here we always use...and see where he is relative to my car. And then we will see how your car fares against his also. But since your car trapped higher than his at Sacramento (too bad you weren't able to meet him up in Sac last month!), lets see if you really do pull on him at the roll on event. If you do, your Vbox numbers are also going to be higher than his C63 or my 335i numbers. Again, we both ran each other, we both Vboxed our cars to support our results, now please get us some numbers on your car either right before the event or after so we can see if my assumptions are correct!

Also, roll on events can also be somewhat deceiving. Just look at Drews FI E92 M3 (DLSJ5) videos. He is the expert in roll racing videos. Look at how much variance there are in results between the same cars on different runs. While roll racing events can be lots of fun, you need some hard numbers to go along with it.
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I will be there. 2011 c63 with filters, headers, and tune. 570hp crank.
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