Progman 25.1 - Is iDrive Faster? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

E90ice · 05-23-2007, 01:08 PM

Is the new Progman 25.xx faster in your opinion?

X5FX · 05-23-2007, 01:11 PM

no

azbmw · 05-23-2007, 02:11 PM

Peoples perception of faster is different for everyone. Also, it appears when your car was built seems to determine much of the slowness as older Progmans ran slower. It is possible the model has something to do with slowness as those with RTTI have different iDrive units (just a guess).

If someone had an e92 their iDrive was already pretty fast and wont notice much of a difference in speed of Progman 25. Those with ’06 e90’s may see a huge bump in speed – all I seem to read from that group are complaints of a slow iDrive prior to progman 25.

Without knowing what progman the owner had previous to progman 25 update - or what model & build date - it will be impossible to tell why progman 25 seems the same or faster.

'07 e92 335 and progman 25.00.04 update seems the same speed as the factory installed progman.

Greeney · 05-23-2007, 04:35 PM

I have 25.2 supposedly, I noticed a speed increase on the INITIAL boot up.

Enkur · 05-23-2007, 05:24 PM

yes its definitely faster on initial startup. I like the colors ... better contrast.

Costa · 05-23-2007, 09:41 PM

It is faster in some ways but slower in others. To me it looks like they have done (at least) two things;

- Altered the memory management. You can see this because when you navigate through MP3 lists, it loads from disk a bit at a time rather than loading the whole thing into memory (which causes a longer initial delay)

- Altered the task/process priority of navigation. The Nav is definitely slower, but everything else is quicker. I reckon they have lowered the priority, because Nav is very CPU intensive and was probably slowing down everything else previously.

There also a lot of new functionality which is always welcome. In the future we will probably be buying software support contracts with our cars, since the changes will become frequent, and people always want the latest. At the moment you can only get upgrades for a warranty reason or if you pay for it - that will surely change.

poldim · 05-23-2007, 11:33 PM

Shouldn't you have an option for it being slower?

BK · 05-24-2007, 01:19 AM

I have an 06 E90, and PROGMAN v25 does not seem any faster or more responsive. Mine was never painfully slow, though.

v25 is a nice update, even if not any faster.

View Poll Results: Is the new Progman 25.xx faster than previously?
Yes, new iDrive is way faster than before	8	34.78%
Slightly faster	9	39.13%
No, no change in iDrive response time	6	26.09%
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05-23-2007, 04:35 PM	#4
Greeney Brigadier General Drives: Jerez E90 M3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Westchester, NY / Avon, CO Posts: 3,738 iTrader: (4)	I have 25.2 supposedly, I noticed a speed increase on the INITIAL boot up. __________________ 11' E90 M3 6MT \| Jerez Black \| Black Ext./Carbon \| ZCP \| ZCW \| ZPP \| ZTP \| 302 \| 403 \| 507 \| 5AC \| 655 \| 6FL \| 752 \|

05-23-2007, 05:24 PM	#5
Enkur First Lieutenant Drives: 2009 Z4 sdrive30i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 299 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 328i Coupe [0.00]	yes its definitely faster on initial startup. I like the colors ... better contrast. __________________ 2009 Z4 sdrive30i Space Gray, Premium Package, Premium sound, heated seats, automatic trans 2007 328i Coupe Crimson Red ED 03/2007 retired

05-23-2007, 02:11 PM	#3
azbmw Private First Class Drives: rickshaw Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 120 iTrader: (0)	Peoples perception of faster is different for everyone. Also, it appears when your car was built seems to determine much of the slowness as older Progmans ran slower. It is possible the model has something to do with slowness as those with RTTI have different iDrive units (just a guess). If someone had an e92 their iDrive was already pretty fast and wont notice much of a difference in speed of Progman 25. Those with ’06 e90’s may see a huge bump in speed – all I seem to read from that group are complaints of a slow iDrive prior to progman 25. Without knowing what progman the owner had previous to progman 25 update - or what model & build date - it will be impossible to tell why progman 25 seems the same or faster. '07 e92 335 and progman 25.00.04 update seems the same speed as the factory installed progman.

05-23-2007, 09:41 PM	#6
Costa Second Lieutenant Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 202 iTrader: (0)	It is faster in some ways but slower in others. To me it looks like they have done (at least) two things; - Altered the memory management. You can see this because when you navigate through MP3 lists, it loads from disk a bit at a time rather than loading the whole thing into memory (which causes a longer initial delay) - Altered the task/process priority of navigation. The Nav is definitely slower, but everything else is quicker. I reckon they have lowered the priority, because Nav is very CPU intensive and was probably slowing down everything else previously. There also a lot of new functionality which is always welcome. In the future we will probably be buying software support contracts with our cars, since the changes will become frequent, and people always want the latest. At the moment you can only get upgrades for a warranty reason or if you pay for it - that will surely change. __________________ 325i auto \| Saph Blk \| PDC \| Sunroof \| Prof Nav \| BiXenon \| SS \| Logic7

05-23-2007, 11:33 PM	#7
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05-24-2007, 01:19 AM	#8
BK Smiling politely Drives: 330i Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 7,916 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [4.50]	I have an 06 E90, and PROGMAN v25 does not seem any faster or more responsive. Mine was never painfully slow, though. v25 is a nice update, even if not any faster. __________________ 330i \| Black Sapphire \| Beige + Burl \| Sport \| Premium \| Cold \| Nav \| CA \| Sat prep