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      02-29-2012, 11:29 AM   #89
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A couple of quick questions about injectors:

1) For the botched dealer installs, to be clear, were parts 9 and 10 missing on diagram?
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...82&hg=13&fg=15

2) It looks like part 9 is included with a new injector. Is that correct?

3) Can I tell if the injector was installed wrong without pulling it out? It sounds like broken Fuel Rail brackets are one way to tell.

4) Can I physically read the injector codes off of the injectors without pulling them? (I would like to confirm the correct codes with INPA.)

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      02-29-2012, 07:51 PM   #90
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Ok, I have answer #4: I can see the codes on all of the injectors. I can also see the part numbers. The four that were replaced under recall are obvious since they are the newest part number. The fuel rail also does not appear to be damaged and the injectors all appear to be seated evenly.
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*Update* dealer replace my dme, injectors, coil packs, and my driver side headlight washer pump. Just glad I didnt have to pay for any of it as it was done under goodwill.
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MY car has been going into limp mode under heavy load for last several months...first it was cylinder 3...i replaced coil, then cylinder 1....replaced coil, now cylinder 4. Any ideas of what could keep causing the coils to go...every time i replace the problem coil the car runs fine for a bit then another one goes....frustrating as hell especially when like most of you ALL i want is my baby running perfect. I just installed a JB3 and bought 10 gallons of 110 octane race fuel to mix in tank. THIS seems to lower the chance of misfire under load for some reason...only had one limp mode recently and the CES light went off after one night...Any help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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That's a nice torque wrench that COBB usues in the video to install the plugs. Anyone know a place I can get a nice digital one for a good price.

This is the one I believe I saw in the video but in gray (Torque Wrench, Electronic, $469.95)
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MY car has been going into limp mode under heavy load for last several months...first it was cylinder 3...i replaced coil, then cylinder 1....replaced coil, now cylinder 4. Any ideas of what could keep causing the coils to go...every time i replace the problem coil the car runs fine for a bit then another one goes....frustrating as hell especially when like most of you ALL i want is my baby running perfect. I just installed a JB3 and bought 10 gallons of 110 octane race fuel to mix in tank. THIS seems to lower the chance of misfire under load for some reason...only had one limp mode recently and the CES light went off after one night...Any help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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Have you followed the guidelines on the first page and video? You should really replace all coils and all plugs at the same time.

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      03-14-2012, 08:49 PM   #96
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Ok ill try that thanks guys!
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Cyl 5 misfire only in high rpm/high load, replaced all plugs and a new coil for cyl 5 and got the code again, car runs really rough after a pull and after a couple of mins startsrunning properly again

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your next step is to clean out the carbon build up.

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Cyl 5 misfire only in high rpm/high load, replaced all plugs and a new coil for cyl 5 and got the code again, car runs really rough after a pull and after a couple of mins startsrunning properly again

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Well ... I am officially depressed. Brought it to the dealer today and they are telling me that at least two of the injectors were replaced or checked, back in May at another BMW dealer, and they botched the install, as these injectors have a broken tab and perhaps O ring???

Either way they do not want to touch it and are telling me that i should go back to the other dealer. Their concerns are that they will not get paid for the work they do, because when they send the parts back to BMW NA, they will see they were installed incorrectly, and deny to pay the claim.

I have been on the phones all day with both dealers and with BMW NA. I am getting no where and to be honest with you, I do not want to go back to the original dealer (Braman BMW Miami) regardless, because they clearly messed it up the first time and I am hearing horror stories on their incompetence .

I went back to the dealer this afternoon and pleaded with their Service Director to work with me. They are looking at it deeper now and I honestly think they best i can hope for from them, is a discount on parts and labor. They will "work with me".

I feel defeated. Again, BMW NA, did not want to work with me at all.
I'm buying a '07 335 that was originally serviced by Braman BMW. Injectors were changed in 2010 and car has 20k miles since then. Should I be concerned?
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I've got a misfire on cylinder 5 after installing JB4 running Map 1. I was doing a WOT pull when all of a sudden the car started shaking and I got a CEL. I immeadately changed to map 0 with no difference car kept shivering when i touched the gas. When I restarted everything was fine. The question I have is if I put the car in Map 0 now and pull out the JB4 and take it to the dealer will they see only the misfire code or would there be any other codes that indicate a tune? I want them to investigate the misfire, I havent gotten my plugs changed yet under the service plan! (Only 23000 miles (37000kms) on the car)
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      04-24-2012, 08:16 AM   #101
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I started a thread, but not getting much for responses. I have a missfire in one cylinder. Replaced plugs, coil and injector. Same code. If it was carbon, wouldn't it be accross all cylinders not just one? I am lost and need some guidance.

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I started a thread, but not getting much for responses. I have a missfire in one cylinder. Replaced plugs, coil and injector. Same code. If it was carbon, wouldn't it be accross all cylinders not just one? I am lost and need some guidance.

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When does the misfire occur? At idle or wide open throttle at what RPM?
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      04-24-2012, 09:16 AM   #103
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I started a thread, but not getting much for responses. I have a missfire in one cylinder. Replaced plugs, coil and injector. Same code. If it was carbon, wouldn't it be accross all cylinders not just one? I am lost and need some guidance.

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does it occur on pump gas or with meth?
Did you try changing maps ?
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When does the misfire occur? At idle or wide open throttle at what RPM?
I am running pump gas 93 oct. No meth. Happens most prodominantly at idle and light load mainly. But feels down on power all around.
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I am running pump gas 93 oct. No meth. Happens most prodominantly at idle and light load mainly. But feels down on power all around.
did you try removing the tune ?
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I am running pump gas 93 oct. No meth. Happens most prodominantly at idle and light load mainly. But feels down on power all around.
If it was at or near idle I would think it might be something more fuel related like hpfp or lpfp. Sometimes you would have other codes.

How did the plugs look when you removed them?

I'm assuming your injectors were coded properly?
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did you try removing the tune ?
Yes. Happens with and without tune.
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If it was at or near idle I would think it might be something more fuel related like hpfp or lpfp. Sometimes you would have other codes.

How did the plugs look when you removed them?

I'm assuming your injectors were coded properly?
Plugs looked great. I just put them in about 2k miles ago. But pulled them to check. Color is good, condition is good.

I am not sure it is the fp. If it was multiple cylinders and codes, but I am getting one code for one cylinder. Well I am getting two codes. 10703 and 11170. But I get 11170 all the time and for no clear reason and no one seems to know what it means. I am getting ready to leave the car on the side of the road.
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Plugs looked great. I just put them in about 2k miles ago. But pulled them to check. Color is good, condition is good.

I am not sure it is the fp. If it was multiple cylinders and codes, but I am getting one code for one cylinder. Well I am getting two codes. 10703 and 11170. But I get 11170 all the time and for no clear reason and no one seems to know what it means. I am getting ready to leave the car on the side of the road.
That does sound annoying.

Have you tried resetting adaptations? I never heard of 11170 code either.
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I have not tried that yet. Worth a shot. I may pull the intake manfold and look at what kind of carbon build up I have...but I find it hard to believe it is only one cylinder that would be impacted.
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