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      01-17-2012, 11:00 PM   #155
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Rent out Road America?
way to expensive, and I also have heard that blackhawak is nice
I think blackhawk would be best because it is the same distance as autobahn
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      01-18-2012, 12:22 AM   #156
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ill be interested in the track as well
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      01-18-2012, 12:46 AM   #157
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good to hear, any thoughts on dates?
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      01-18-2012, 01:16 AM   #158
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Count me in for the track event as well.

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Sign me up for the meet. On the fence about the track day.

For the BBQ Mark, you should reserve a picnic area in a park (like Busse) with the amount of people signed up.
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      01-18-2012, 09:53 AM   #160
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yeah thinking about it, or possibly talking to vs about having it there at there shop
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      01-18-2012, 12:13 PM   #161
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I am on the fence as well about going to the track, once we have more concrete dates i will be able to commit. I will 100% be at the meet. I can bring anything extra that is needed for the BBQ: burgers, hotdogs, etc.
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      01-18-2012, 12:45 PM   #162
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dates have been confirmed and posted on the front page!
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      01-18-2012, 12:55 PM   #163
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Just for shits 'n giggles, how much would it cost to rent out Road America?
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      01-18-2012, 01:59 PM   #165
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ALOT already called
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Definitely in for the meat, borderline for the track day. Gotta see what shit I have to get done to the car prior to it.
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Definitely in for the meat, borderline for the track day. Gotta see what shit I have to get done to the car prior to it.
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Lets get some more people paid, take advantage of the price now before it goes up as it gets closer to the event.

Blackhawk Raceway Interest:
1. Mkpoto - Mark PAID 1/17
2. Mr. Nice-Zach PAID 1/17
3. mithiral67-James
4. Black sheep-Ryan PAID 1/17
5. Randy- Randy (non e90post member)PAID 1/18
6. teamben158- Ben
7. Max Gutsmiedl- (non e90post member and also a track instructor)
8. Chris Beary- (non e90post member)
9. klammer-??? (M3post)
10. 08-335-???
11. The Moss-??? (m3post)
12. Green hell- Sam (m3post)
13. flipm3 - Alex (Chicago)
14. notfast
15. speedstar-??? (Chicago/ChitownM)
16. kristin-??? (Chicago/ChitownM)
17. Schalldampfer1-??? (Chicago/ChitownM)
18. speedstar-??? (Chicago/ChitownM)
19. zhangzeyuandss-???(Chicago)
20. richardg-?? (Michigan)
21. umichchris-??? (Chicago)
22. iamcpap-(Chicago)
23. marmaduke-(Chicago?)
24. mashimarho-(Chicago)
25. Mike Lu-(Michigan)
26. spiike32
27. 02m3project -(ChitownM)
28. Tuned1-(1addicts/Chicago/1m Owner)
29. MikeM5-Mikey (Chicago)
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Turn 1

T1 is a typical 90-degree right hander. Pick your braking point and try to be consistent there. People have a tendency to "cheat the corner" by turning in too early, which will lead to hitting some dirt on track out, or worse. Hold your line and don't turn in early.
Turn 2

T2 is considered a straight for most cars, despite most maps indicating that some braking or lifting might be needed. Driving under the boughs of a huge oak tree at the apex creates a sense of tranquility here, if you can ignore the possibility of hitting the tire wall in front of the trunk.
Turn 3

Approaching T3, you will be hard - very hard - on the brakes because you've been full throttle since leaving T1. Advanced drivers may trail brake into T3, but newer drivers would be advised to keep their braking straight. T3 is commonly taken one of two ways: a) staying about mid-track, then hitting the apex near the end of the corner, or b) double apexing. Whatever line you take, the key is to get back on the throttle as soon as possible so that you're full throttle well before the second apex.

Turn 3A (or 3D) is a very slow (typically 2nd gear) right hander that will require you to brake hard beforehand. Again, pick your braking point and be consistent.

History buffs will note that there used to be a straight after the carousel of 3 leading directly to 4. You can still see old pavement coming out from under the earth berm and tires there.
Turn 4 and 5

T4 - T5 is actually more of one large radius turn than two discrete corners. Judging from most track maps, T4 looks like a very slow corner. Taking T4 slowly is wise for those new to BHF, but some significant time can be made here by not overbraking, or by not braking at all (depending on the car). Still, T4 is slower than T5 since it is a lower radius corner as can be seen in the GPS plot. Too much speed in T4 can easily lead to a spin.

Approaching T5, you will see an access road on your right. Use this as your turn in marker. Most people turn in at the start or the middle of the road. Depending upon your gearing, you may choose to short shift before getting to T5, as this can make the corner a bit smoother overall with little (if any) time lost. You'll need to use the entire track out area if you're carrying speed.
Turn 6

You will exit T5 on the far right side of the track, so you'll need to bring the car back to the left to set yourself up for T6. Turn in markers are not readily apparent, so you will have to look for some type of marker. This is important to do, because this corner leads to a long straight coming up to T7. Spins near the beginning of T6 (near the access road) are common so be careful and consistent. Make sure to hit the apex on the right side of the track just after the access road.

T6A is a right hand kink, and after hitting that apex you'll be able to brake in a straight line for T7. High powered cars (e.g. over 400 hp) may need to brake before the kink since the braking zone is relatively short. Cars sometimes go off in T7 due to overly-late braking or overheated brakes.
Turn 7

Once through the kink, T7 is a straighforward 80 degree right-hander leading on to the main straight.
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      01-25-2012, 11:06 AM   #171
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      01-25-2012, 08:00 PM   #172
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blackhawk is an awesome little track, maybe I'll consider coming.
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      02-06-2012, 10:22 AM   #174
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      02-06-2012, 10:49 PM   #175
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looks like a good time, wish i still had a track car... anyone wanna trade a ski boat for an e36???
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      02-07-2012, 08:38 AM   #176
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Update on Page One! Might have a interesting track day setup!
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