Ignition Coil Issue??? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

rag21 · 10-26-2005, 04:38 PM

I just got an email from my dealer about the ignition coils on my E90 325i. Thought I should share the info.

> Morristown BMW is committed to delivering the ultimate in product
> and service satisfaction to you, our customer. We became aware
> of a potential problem that could affect the Ignition Coils in your
> vehicle. We invite you to stop in at Morristown BMW at your
> earliest convenience, in order to inspect the coils in your vehicle. To
> make this process as convenient as possible, there is no
> appointment necessary. We just ask for your patience for
> approximately 30 or 35 minutes, while we inspect and/or replace
> the effected components.

Hopefully all of your dealers are doing something about this.

From the limited knowledge I have about how cars run, this could have the potential to be something big.

Bimmerista · 10-26-2005, 04:48 PM

Funny you should mention ignition coils - my wife's X3 was in the shop for winter tires and they did replace the ignition coils on her car. assumed it was something that the new e90s do not have to worry about.

Do you know if there is a cut off - that is a date after which new cars no longer have this issue.

BTW for the X3 the dealer told me that it was a recall but not a critical one, i.e. the work gets done when cars are brought in for regular servicing.

And I thought that the 2002 Audi spark plug coil thing was behind me....

espo · 10-26-2005, 04:57 PM

Funny thing indeed... I had a problem on my 2003 325xi a year or 2 ago. One of the coils stopped working causing the engine to "drop a cylinder", engine light comes on, and I take it directly to the dealer that morning. They replaced the broken coil as well as all of the other ones. It was a problem with that particular batch/brand they knew about at the time.

My question is why would the problem still be happening. You would think after the first set of problems they would have switched suppliers..

Socom · 10-26-2005, 05:07 PM

OMG..I hope they're not the same POS Bosch coils they've been using for years.

Bimmerista · 10-26-2005, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Socom

OMG..I hope they're not the same POS Bosch coils they've been using for years.

I am afraid they may well be - the same POS used by Audi, which had the same F... problem.

RyBMW · 10-26-2005, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rag21

I just got an email from my dealer about the ignition coils on my E90 325i. Thought I should share the info.

> Morristown BMW is committed to delivering the ultimate in product
> and service satisfaction to you, our customer. We became aware
> of a potential problem that could affect the Ignition Coils in your
> vehicle. We invite you to stop in at Morristown BMW at your
> earliest convenience, in order to inspect the coils in your vehicle. To
> make this process as convenient as possible, there is no
> appointment necessary. We just ask for your patience for
> approximately 30 or 35 minutes, while we inspect and/or replace
> the effected components.

Hopefully all of your dealers are doing something about this.

From the limited knowledge I have about how cars run, this could have the potential to be something big.

I got the same email from Morristown BMW. The only problem is that I didn't buy my E90 from them. I was never in contact with their service department before.

Sho · 10-26-2005, 06:20 PM

Could it be just a junk mail??? I keep in close touch with my sales, but he hasn't noticed me about the recall???

mapezzul · 10-26-2005, 06:39 PM

I just took my car in yesterday for software iDrive updates and the SA and I went through everything... my dealership is the best (well they sell ferraris and maseratis and etc.) so they don't BS and give 5 star service..... anyway he did not mention any recall except for the software. I was looking at the screen with him and I did not see anything either. My car was built first week of August. Maybe it is spam if some people are getting it that have no reason to get it ! Best of luck

Sho · 10-26-2005, 06:41 PM

I am sure there is no recall.... 2 weeks ago I just done the software update, and no one mention it to me.

E90RWC · 10-26-2005, 07:13 PM

i had the same problem with my 2003 325i
i complained to the dealer that i would stall very frequently. they said it was becuase i didnt know how to drive stick!!! :mad:
i complained for a second time and they found the ignition coils were bad as well!! IDIOTS. i guess its a problem with bmws. i would stall 24/7 in my 325i if my clutch wore out becuase of that shit i will make sure they replace that too! :rocks:

fdc · 10-26-2005, 07:44 PM

VW had a recall ~ 2 years ago on bad coil packs.
I hope is not the same story ...
fdc

rag21 · 10-27-2005, 03:17 PM

I talked to the dealer and it seems they don't know how to send emails.
They sent that email to all their customers instead of the people who were affected.

There is an issue with the ignition coils on the 02-04 3 Series and not the E90s.

Sorry for the false alarm.

txusa03 · 10-27-2005, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sho

Could it be just a junk mail??? I keep in close touch with my sales, but he hasn't noticed me about the recall???

Dude, you should have learned from this forum that sales folks don't know shit. They just know how to BS to make a sale.

LEDZEP · 10-27-2005, 03:45 PM

VW has also had a long problem with this.

petesamprs · 10-27-2005, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapezzul

I just took my car in yesterday for software iDrive updates and the SA and I went through everything... my dealership is the best (well they sell ferraris and maseratis and etc.) so they don't BS and give 5 star service..... anyway he did not mention any recall except for the software. I was looking at the screen with him and I did not see anything either. My car was built first week of August. Maybe it is spam if some people are getting it that have no reason to get it ! Best of luck

Did you buy from Wide World? if so, glad to hear their service is good since I did too.

thd13 · 10-27-2005, 04:43 PM

Whew!!! I was beginning to worry since I have been stalling my ass off since taking delivery. Thought it may have been a serious problem, but now I know the truth...

that I just don't know how to drive worth a shit.

J/K, it is a relief though. Thanks for keeping us all upated!

Sho · 10-27-2005, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txusa03

Dude, you should have learned from this forum that sales folks don't know shit. They just know how to BS to make a sale.

My sales was great; he owns many BMWs, and in motorsport as well. He was the coolest car sales I ever met.

rag21 · 10-28-2005, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txusa03

Dude, you should have learned from this forum that sales folks don't know shit. They just know how to BS to make a sale.

The email came from director of service.
If it was from the sales dept. it probably would gone straight into the junkmail box.
I figured the service ppl would have a clue.
I figured wrong.

Well, now I know.

JamieA · 10-28-2005, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimmerista

I am afraid they may well be - the same POS used by Audi, which had the same F... problem.

I know exactly what you mean, my A4 broke down on a highway with my friend's 4 yo son in the car. You can not imagine the distress I underwent, and then this was compounded by the rude Audicare call operator who would not give me a loan car, and I had to wait hours with this distressed child to get a tow truck to take my car away, then get friends to come all the way out and get me, and then hire a car!!

Needless to say I made Audi pay for it all in the end, but the point is that this shouldn't happen. What annoyed me most was that Audi knew of the problem but didn't contact me to give me the option of having it fixed, instead they waited for my car to break down in the middle of nowhere :mad:

After this incident, my A4 has never been the same. The engine is missing something, and guzzles juice.

I have to say that the post made my heart sink to think that my E90 could have a similar problem, glad to hear that it was an email gaffe and not a real problem!

Bimmerista · 10-28-2005, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamieA

I know exactly what you mean, my A4 broke down on a highway with my friend's 4 yo son in the car. You can not imagine the distress I underwent, and then this was compounded by the rude Audicare call operator who would not give me a loan car, and I had to wait hours with this distressed child to get a tow truck to take my car away, then get friends to come all the way out and get me, and then hire a car!!

Needless to say I made Audi pay for it all in the end, but the point is that this shouldn't happen. What annoyed me most was that Audi knew of the problem but didn't contact me to give me the option of having it fixed, instead they waited for my car to break down in the middle of nowhere :mad:

After this incident, my A4 has never been the same. The engine is missing something, and guzzles juice.

I have to say that the post made my heart sink to think that my E90 could have a similar problem, glad to hear that it was an email gaffe and not a real problem!

Agreed - not only did I have that issue on my Audi as well - luckily I caught it (Forum postings) before it became a problem and requested that the coils be checked) BUT my wife's X3 just had its coils replaced this week in a recall !!! So yes, I was very relieved myself.

However, I am astounded at how Bosch (for whom I have the greatest respect) continues to get away with shoddy qulity control issues. And if the coils actually come from one of the multitude of mom-and-pop suppliers loitering around Bavaria and Baden-Wurtemberg, then shame on Audi/BMW/Mercedes for not cracking down.

On an unrelated note, a few years ago Bosh admitted that the turbos on the diesels were crap and needed to be replaced. This affected countless models from all of the above-named manufacturers. Amazing that this can still happen. Frustrating.

JamieA · 10-28-2005, 11:42 AM

The whole thing shocked me, I have never has a car break down on me, not even the old bangers I drove while at University.

mapezzul · 10-28-2005, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petesamprs

Did you buy from Wide World? if so, glad to hear their service is good since I did too.

Yep.... the BEST BMW dealer in the area by far, they treat you great and have a fleet of nearly 50 loaners! They are very good, I have dealt with some others and they are not even half as good! This is my first trip to service but it was great, even though the software update really only gave me RDS, faster iDrive and working voice commands... oh and you can spell the city now in the nave etc... Best of Luck

10-26-2005, 04:38 PM	#1
rag21 lets drink Drives: 06 E90 325i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 90 iTrader: (0)	Ignition Coil Issue??? I just got an email from my dealer about the ignition coils on my E90 325i. Thought I should share the info. > Morristown BMW is committed to delivering the ultimate in product > and service satisfaction to you, our customer. We became aware > of a potential problem that could affect the Ignition Coils in your > vehicle. We invite you to stop in at Morristown BMW at your > earliest convenience, in order to inspect the coils in your vehicle. To > make this process as convenient as possible, there is no > appointment necessary. We just ask for your patience for > approximately 30 or 35 minutes, while we inspect and/or replace > the effected components. Hopefully all of your dealers are doing something about this. From the limited knowledge I have about how cars run, this could have the potential to be something big.
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10-26-2005, 04:57 PM	#3
espo Captain Drives: 2006 330xi Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 691 iTrader: (0)	Funny thing indeed... I had a problem on my 2003 325xi a year or 2 ago. One of the coils stopped working causing the engine to "drop a cylinder", engine light comes on, and I take it directly to the dealer that morning. They replaced the broken coil as well as all of the other ones. It was a problem with that particular batch/brand they knew about at the time. My question is why would the problem still be happening. You would think after the first set of problems they would have switched suppliers.. __________________ E90 330xi Mystic Blue/Black Leather/Aluminum 6sp Manual ZSP/ZPP/ZCW/CA brought home 10/18/05

10-26-2005, 06:20 PM	#7
Sho Captain Drives: E90 325i 6-speed Join Date: May 2005 Location: WA Posts: 575 iTrader: (0)	Could it be just a junk mail??? I keep in close touch with my sales, but he hasn't noticed me about the recall??? __________________ 2006 325i Sport - SSR GT7, Euro tails, Rogue Ikon muffler/w custom 3.5" piping, Painted OEM Splitters 2005 Toyota Matrix - Commuter

10-26-2005, 06:41 PM	#9
Sho Captain Drives: E90 325i 6-speed Join Date: May 2005 Location: WA Posts: 575 iTrader: (0)	I am sure there is no recall.... 2 weeks ago I just done the software update, and no one mention it to me. __________________ 2006 325i Sport - SSR GT7, Euro tails, Rogue Ikon muffler/w custom 3.5" piping, Painted OEM Splitters 2005 Toyota Matrix - Commuter

10-26-2005, 07:44 PM	#11
fdc Private First Class Drives: E90 325xi Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 195 iTrader: (0)	VW had a recall ~ 2 years ago on bad coil packs. I hope is not the same story ... fdc __________________ 325xi, leather. Departure: Bremerhaven Sept 28, 2005 Vessel: Franconia K-line (http://www.kline.com/PCC-RoRo/schedu...ticshuttle.asp) Arrived at the Port of Charleston at 04:40 on Oct. 10, 2005 Arrived At VPC: 10/11/05 Left the VPC: 10/14/05 3:40pm Arrived at the Dealer: 10/15/05 3:00pm Delivery: 10/18/05 10:00 am

10-26-2005, 04:48 PM	#2
Bimmerista Major General Drives: superstock Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Posts: 5,658 iTrader: (0)	Funny you should mention ignition coils - my wife's X3 was in the shop for winter tires and they did replace the ignition coils on her car. assumed it was something that the new e90s do not have to worry about. Do you know if there is a cut off - that is a date after which new cars no longer have this issue. BTW for the X3 the dealer told me that it was a recall but not a critical one, i.e. the work gets done when cars are brought in for regular servicing. And I thought that the 2002 Audi spark plug coil thing was behind me....

10-26-2005, 05:07 PM	#4
Socom Brigadier General Drives: 2010 335D Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 4,398 iTrader: (0)	OMG..I hope they're not the same POS Bosch coils they've been using for years.

10-26-2005, 06:39 PM	#8
mapezzul Special Agent Drives: Depends on the day! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,382 iTrader: (1)	I just took my car in yesterday for software iDrive updates and the SA and I went through everything... my dealership is the best (well they sell ferraris and maseratis and etc.) so they don't BS and give 5 star service..... anyway he did not mention any recall except for the software. I was looking at the screen with him and I did not see anything either. My car was built first week of August. Maybe it is spam if some people are getting it that have no reason to get it ! Best of luck

10-26-2005, 07:13 PM	#10
E90RWC What you know about the twins? Drives: bmw Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: CA Posts: 995 iTrader: (1)	i had the same problem with my 2003 325i i complained to the dealer that i would stall very frequently. they said it was becuase i didnt know how to drive stick!!! :mad: i complained for a second time and they found the ignition coils were bad as well!! IDIOTS. i guess its a problem with bmws. i would stall 24/7 in my 325i if my clutch wore out becuase of that shit i will make sure they replace that too! :rocks:

10-27-2005, 03:17 PM	#12
rag21 lets drink Drives: 06 E90 325i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 90 iTrader: (0)	I talked to the dealer and it seems they don't know how to send emails. They sent that email to all their customers instead of the people who were affected. There is an issue with the ignition coils on the 02-04 3 Series and not the E90s. Sorry for the false alarm.

10-27-2005, 03:45 PM	#14
LEDZEP Lieutenant General Drives: 2009 E70 & 2011 F25 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Area 51 Posts: 12,285 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 X3 35i M Sport [3.93] 2009 X5 M Sport [0.00] 2007 328xi E90 [0.00] 2006 325xiT E91 [0.00]	VW has also had a long problem with this. __________________ I think it is bad luck to be superstitious

10-27-2005, 04:43 PM	#16
thd13 Major Drives: A07 330i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Murrland Posts: 1,415 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Whew!!! I was beginning to worry since I have been stalling my ass off since taking delivery. Thought it may have been a serious problem, but now I know the truth... that I just don't know how to drive worth a shit. J/K, it is a relief though. Thanks for keeping us all upated! __________________ My other ride is your mom.

10-28-2005, 11:42 AM	#21
JamieA Colonel Drives: E90 325i SG Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 2,094 iTrader: (0)	The whole thing shocked me, I have never has a car break down on me, not even the old bangers I drove while at University. __________________ '05 E90 325i 6sp Man SG 118,032km on the odo (retired) '06 E90 325i Step \| SG \| Cream \| Burr Walnut \| Xenons \| Pro Navi 96,937km on the odo "I am not saying we should kill the stupid people, I am just saying we should remove all those warning labels from things and let nature take its course"