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      11-09-2014, 11:08 PM   #1
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Hey guys need your help here. Just got my car back with some new additions.

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I tried flashing tonight for 6 hours with no luck. I used a BT cable and the [Admin Notified] application to try and read my ECU but it took more than 2 hours each try and Terry stated something was wrong so I aborted the read after 2 hours. Tried twice and yes I had a battery tender connected. Volts read at 13.78.

Protocol : K Line
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Voltage 13-13.78
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Did some research and found some stating that the 2007 K line ecu's are quite picky.

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2 times : Intel i7 w/16gb ram (fast enough so confused here)
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Followed the DIY and still not working. Yes JB4 is on map 0. Help please! Want to flash pump flash for daily and e85 flash right before dyno so I can get some info and numbers out to you guys on these VTT's!
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Are you getting any error messages at all? KLines are picky. There are two versions of the flashing software. Try Terry's version if you haven't already as it tends to work a little better with KLines.
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Are you getting any error messages at all? KLines are picky. There are two versions of the flashing software. Try Terry's version if you haven't already as it tends to work a little better with KLines.
No error messages what so ever. Problem is, I've downloaded Terry's version from n54 and every time I click ID ECU it will crash. I've downloaded that one from my two laptops and they both still crash. BB version connects but is well over 2 hours for read.
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Are you getting any error messages at all? KLines are picky. There are two versions of the flashing software. Try Terry's version if you haven't already as it tends to work a little better with KLines.
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No error messages what so ever. Problem is, I've downloaded Terry's version from n54 and every time I click ID ECU it will crash. I've downloaded that one from my two laptops and they both still crash. BB version connects but is well over 2 hours for read.
My first read was like 1.5-2hr on my 07. With BB version. Since then I haven't had any issues with flash time. I only use my original file though. I have versions of it and import the changes with tuner pro. That way it is always a partial write.

Using a windows 8 tablet fyi.
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If you want to use Terry's version you need to make sure you have the latest .Net loaded on your computer. If not, update it by downloading .NET which IIRC is 4.5.

Another than you can do is skip the read as you can always recover your ECU from WinKFP. If you need help with downloading the tools, email me. You'll also need a K+DCAN cable which I would recommend for anyone with K-LINE purchase prior to attempting to flash with BB flash.
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No error messages what so ever. Problem is, I've downloaded Terry's version from n54 and every time I click ID ECU it will crash. I've downloaded that one from my two laptops and they both still crash. BB version connects but is well over 2 hours for read.
My first read was like 1.5-2hr on my 07. With BB version. Since then I haven't had any issues with flash time. I only use my original file though. I have versions of it and import the changes with tuner pro. That way it is always a partial write.

Using a windows 8 tablet fyi.
The weird thing is my first Read reaches 2h and 30 minutes with 123 minutes left on the clock. and can some one educate me where I can find the most up to date of .NET and what exactly it is? I'm kind of lost there
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Just to make sure... JB is on map 0 correct?
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Just to make sure... JB is on map 0 correct?
Yes lol
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The .net framework files should be in the Windows update. It looks like you have Win7 so you should have 3.5 or later. With Terry's version (and both versions imo), change the compatibility to run in Windows XP SP2 mode and run as admin. If push comes to shove, find a laptop with WinXP on it and give it a try.

The software is great and free but it is still so buggy :/
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The .net framework files should be in the Windows update. It looks like you have Win7 so you should have 3.5 or later. With Terry's version (and both versions imo), change the compatibility to run in Windows XP SP2 mode and run as admin. If push comes to shove, find a laptop with WinXP on it and give it a try.

The software is great and free but it is still so buggy :/
When I did my flashes I never had to set compatibility on windows 7. Make sure you have the up to date .net framework
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When I did my flashes I never had to set compatibility on windows 7. Make sure you have the up to date .net framework
Every computer is different and if he is having issues, the compatibility should be set to Windows XP...
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It's your laptop. Get an amd or Intel atom netbook and your read time will be an hour. I have a Kline and I tried 5 laptops before figuring it out.
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It's your laptop. Get an amd or Intel atom netbook and your read time will be an hour. I have a Kline and I tried 5 laptops before figuring it out.
I agree. My laptop will not flash my k-line (despite the fact it read it although it took 3hrs). My son's $350 3yr old entry level AMD flashes it ever time in 1:35 sec or faster.
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It's your laptop. Get an amd or Intel atom netbook and your read time will be an hour. I have a Kline and I tried 5 laptops before figuring it out.
I agree. My laptop will not flash my k-line (despite the fact it read it although it took 3hrs). My son's $350 3yr old entry level AMD flashes it ever time in 1:35 sec or faster.
Haha wtf. Alright I will attempt to find a AMD laptop. Thank you guys!
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Doesn't seem to me like the problem is your laptop. Do you have a battery charger connected when attempting to do the read? If not you'll never get a complete read and it'll take about 2 hours do to voltage.

Did you download both the BB software and the BMS software? You can't use the BMS software without the BB software.
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Doesn't seem to me like the problem is your laptop. Do you have a battery charger connected when attempting to do the read? If not you'll never get a complete read and it'll take about 2 hours do to voltage.

Did you download both the BB software and the BMS software? You can't use the BMS software without the BB software.
Yes if you read original post I have a battery charger connected and it reads 13 Volts which is more than enough. Would installing both the BB and BMS software at the same time fix the fact that the BMS software will always freeze when clicking ID ECU? I downloaded both but only the BB software will ID the ECU
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Yes if you read original post I have a battery charger connected and it reads 13 Volts which is more than enough. Would installing both the BB and BMS software at the same time fix the fact that the BMS software will always freeze when clicking ID ECU? I downloaded both but only the BB software will ID the ECU
Try uninstalling both and then reinstall them. Download the BB software first then open up the BMS software under all programs. If this doesn't work then it must be your laptop like everyone else is saying.
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Is there any stable solution for using BBFlash?

From what I've gathered a few people have bricked their DME using it and a lot of people have slow flash times.

It would be nice to be able to use a laptop for flashing along with a VM containing ISTA/D and the standard tools. An all-in-one BMW software tool.
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Yes if you read original post I have a battery charger connected and it reads 13 Volts which is more than enough. Would installing both the BB and BMS software at the same time fix the fact that the BMS software will always freeze when clicking ID ECU? I downloaded both but only the BB software will ID the ECU
Try uninstalling both and then reinstall them. Download the BB software first then open up the BMS software under all programs. If this doesn't work then it must be your laptop like everyone else is saying.
Tried a third time doing what you explained with a third laptop. Stayed at 451 minutes for an hour and a half. Intel as well. Time to go borrow a AMD and see if this works!
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It's your laptop. Get an amd or Intel atom netbook and your read time will be an hour. I have a Kline and I tried 5 laptops before figuring it out.
On an AMD now and it took 30 minutes to give me an estimate time and the estimate time is at 502 minutes and not declining very quickly at all.

Been reading up. Some say the Kline first read can take up to 6 hours?! Went over 2 hours and gave up for the night, will try again tomorrow morning with a different AMD laptop
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