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      04-07-2016, 02:18 AM   #1
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I have a ton of experience with my 328. The 535 driver just got the car and doesn't have very much experience driving. He wants to street race and I wanna take it to a track so nothing bad happens. So what do you guys think?
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The only real extra power you are making is from the headers and tune. I'm gonna say the 5 will take you.
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The only real extra power you are making is from the headers and tune. I'm gonna say the 5 will take you.
I was at 205rwhp and 200 tq before the headers and tune with a BMs pbx
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535i weight abt 3703lbs
328i weight abt 3386lbs

Not sure which AFE intake you have, but these intake usually benefits more on pulls instead of 0-60.
Does the 535i have SMG?
You might have a chance in 0-60, but after 60 he will definitely pass you

Just saying, the 328i would be slow for drag race... its pretty much pointless to do drags. But for track, its a pretty good car, it can goes into corners so fast.
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535i weight abt 3703lbs
328i weight abt 3386lbs

Does the 535i have SMG?
You might have a chance in 0-60, but after 60 he will definitely pass you

Just saying, the 328i would be slow for drag race... its pretty pointless to drag unless thats a civic.... but for track, its a pretty good car, it can goes into corners so fast.
It does have it but he doesn't know how to use it haha.
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It does have it but he doesn't know how to use it haha.
Hey get OKD plasma direct GOOD SHIT
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It does have it but he doesn't know how to use it haha.
Hey get OKD plasma direct GOOD SHIT
How much does that cost. Be already decided to pull the trigger on the ESS supercharger when I take leave in 2 weeks. Im going to AZ where the headquarters is. The plasma direct was saying it's good for FI.
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How much does that cost. Be already decided to pull the trigger on the ESS supercharger when I take leave in 2 weeks. Im going to AZ where the headquarters is. The plasma direct was saying it's good for FI.
Since you are getting the supercharged, forget about the plasma direct then its pretty $$$... the SC is good enough for power. Oh you getting them to install it for you?
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How much does that cost. Be already decided to pull the trigger on the ESS supercharger when I take leave in 2 weeks. Im going to AZ where the headquarters is. The plasma direct was saying it's good for FI.
Since you are getting the supercharged, forget about the plasma direct then its pretty $$$... the SC is good enough for power. Oh you getting them to install it for you?
Why forget about it?
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Your only real gains are coming from the headers and tune. The intake and exhaust is pretty much just sound. I had the PE on my E90 328, I think BMW claimed it gives about 6hp. Long story short, 535 will pull on you.
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Coils? Waste of money.

OP needs intake manifold and weight reduction, plus some luck...and he might win.
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Spoiler alert: Neither.
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Spoiler alert: Neither.
328 and 535 are NOT drag racing cars...
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- from a low speed roll race (let's say around ~20mph) the 535i will win, because of the torque difference between cars
- from a higher speed roll race (let's say 65+mph) the 328i will slowly edge it, because it makes it's power uptop and the 535i doesn't
- from a standing still it depends on drivers I guess...

my opinion obviously, however if some of you remember the video of an FBO 328i versus a 335i with exhaust the results were similar as mentioned above.

Edit: notice the mentioned 328i in this thread doesn't have the 3 stage manifold... but should be similar results anyway...
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- from a low speed roll race (let's say around ~20mph) the 535i will win, because of the torque difference between cars
- from a higher speed roll race (let's say 65+mph) the 328i will slowly edge it, because it makes it's power uptop and the 535i doesn't
- from a standing still it depends on drivers I guess...

my opinion obviously, however if some of you remember the video of an FBO 328i versus a 335i with exhaust the results were similar as mentioned above.

Edit: notice the mentioned 328i in this thread doesn't have the 3 stage manifold... but should be similar results anyway...
Wasnt that coupe an auto N/A?
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- from a low speed roll race (let's say around ~20mph) the 535i will win, because of the torque difference between cars
- from a higher speed roll race (let's say 65+mph) the 328i will slowly edge it, because it makes it's power uptop and the 535i doesn't
- from a standing still it depends on drivers I guess...

my opinion obviously, however if some of you remember the video of an FBO 328i versus a 335i with exhaust the results were similar as mentioned above.

Edit: notice the mentioned 328i in this thread doesn't have the 3 stage manifold... but should be similar results anyway...

0 - 100 for a stock 328 manual is around 18 seconds
0 - 100 for a stock 535 is about 14

I had a fully tunned E90 328i and there is no way I would have pulled on my current stock E92 335 from a 60-100+ run.
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0 - 100 for a stock 328 manual is around 18 seconds
0 - 100 for a stock 535 is about 14

I had a fully tunned E90 328i and there is no way I would have pulled on my current stock E92 335 from a 60-100+ run.
Eh.

I trapped 15.x at almost 94mph completely stock. With a better launch that's a mid /high 14 second 1/4mile. You would need upwards of 250whp to run low 14s/high13s at 99-100mph with a 328i.
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Eh.

I trapped 15.x at almost 94mph completely stock. With a better launch that's a mid /high 14 second 1/4mile. You would need upwards of 250whp to run low 14s/high13s at 99-100mph with a 328i.
I don't doubt that. The numbers I posted is what's reported by BMW and we all know BMW is pretty conservative with their times.
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I trapped 15.x at almost 94mph completely stock. With a better launch that's a mid /high 14 second 1/4mile. You would need upwards of 250whp to run low 14s/high13s at 99-100mph with a 328i.
I think I ran 14.65 without headers at like 98 mph
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Wasnt that coupe an auto N/A?
honestly don't remember 100%, the 335 I think was a coupe and the 328 4 doors, what I do remember was how the 335 just destroyed it from a low speed pull and how the 328 was edging it from a 60+mph run
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