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      01-16-2012, 06:49 PM   #1
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FRM update to NFRM

Hi guys,

I am looking to possibly upgrade my frm unit (2005 320d) to a newer model so that I can have the welcome lights function.

My problem is that I don\'t have a clue which is the right FRM unit that I should buy? Could some one tell me the BMW code of the part or any more details regarding the spec of the part I need to buy?

I found this on eBay but I am not sure is it the right one?

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=220924818291&index=0&nav=SEARCH&ni d=88995413154

I have a suspicion that this is the wrong part for some reason

Please let me know...

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      01-18-2012, 03:35 PM   #2
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No, that part is the original footwell module (FRM1). For welcome lights you need at least FRM2 (from about 03/07 prod.) or the newest FRM3 (from 09+).

You can enter a part no. into realoem.com and you'll see which version of footwell module it is. The category will be 'footwell module', 'footwell module 2' or 'footwell module 3'.

Hope that clears it up.
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      01-18-2012, 03:57 PM   #3
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i thought the welcome lights were the led's under the door handles?
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i thought the welcome lights were the led's under the door handles?
Those are most commonly referred to as 'puddle lights' I believe. They were standard on my 05 prod. 330i, so you should not need a different FRM to make them work. If you don't have them on your car, you'll need new door handles, the LED lights themselves, and probably coding to enable the feature.

The main issue you may have is a lack of connectors inside the door for the lights to plug into, in which case there may be no simple solution.




'Welcome Lights' is a feature available for cars with FRM2 (03/07 + prod.), which enables you to code any (I believe) lights on your car to turn on when you unlock it. For example you can have angel eyes/license plate lights turn on.
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Those are most commonly referred to as 'puddle lights' I believe. They were standard on my 05 prod. 330i, so you should not need a different FRM to make them work. If you don't have them on your car, you'll need new door handles, the LED lights themselves, and probably coding to enable the feature.

The main issue you may have is a lack of connectors inside the door for the lights to plug into, in which case there may be no simple solution.




'Welcome Lights' is a feature available for cars with FRM2 (03/07 + prod.), which enables you to code any (I believe) lights on your car to turn on when you unlock it. For example you can have angel eyes/license plate lights turn on.
And that's something that cannot be coded on pre 03/07 prod cars without an FRM2+ module?
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^^It has been discussed many times on this board alone.

Welcome lights are not part of the FRM 1 module (limited by either hardware or the software)
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And that's something that cannot be coded on pre 03/07 prod cars without an FRM2+ module?
Correct. FRM1 was replaced with FRM2 at 03/07, i believe.
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      01-20-2012, 01:34 PM   #8
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OK thanks guys, One more question Is it a big job to swap the FRM modules over?

I read somewhere that you have to ref lash the module with the car's VIN etc, before you connect connect in to the car etc...

I also read about people reporting that after the swap they have had problems, and some lights weren't working properly... Can any one confirm this?
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I have done the swap and everything worked fine for me. Installed the FRM 2 module and programed teh module with the vin and then coded it.
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I have done the swap and everything worked fine for me. Installed the FRM 2 module and programed teh module with the vin and then coded it.
Hi DESI4life10,

I am also interested in swapping my FRM1 module as I am doing the halogen to xenon upgrade and would like to activate the Angel Eyes as DRL, soft on etc.

Can you please post the setps on how to code an NEW FRM2 module from the stock FRM1.

Any help would be great as BMW here in Portugal won't code the unit for me as the xenon kit was a retrofit done by me, funny huh?

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Hi DESI4life10,

I am also interested in swapping my FRM1 module as I am doing the halogen to xenon upgrade and would like to activate the Angel Eyes as DRL, soft on etc.

Can you please post the setps on how to code an NEW FRM2 module from the stock FRM1.

Any help would be great as BMW here in Portugal won't code the unit for me as the xenon kit was a retrofit done by me, funny huh?

Thanks
Take a look at this, best instructions I've seen. I'll be doing this myself as soon as I can find an FRM3.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1611769
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I have done the swap and everything worked fine for me. Installed the FRM 2 module and programed teh module with the vin and then coded it.
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Hi DESI4life10,

I am also interested in swapping my FRM1 module as I am doing the halogen to xenon upgrade and would like to activate the Angel Eyes as DRL, soft on etc.

Can you please post the setps on how to code an NEW FRM2 module from the stock FRM1.

Any help would be great as BMW here in Portugal won't code the unit for me as the xenon kit was a retrofit done by me, funny huh?

Thanks

I am in the same book. I just bought a FRM2 and will be receiving soon. I am also waiting on some LCI xenons from Jay @ ProjectM.

I am just not quite sure how to program the module.

DESI4Life10 posted this:

It can be done. I have gone from an FrM1 to FRM 2..
Basically:
- you need to install the new frm
- use win kfp to program the module to your vin
-tool32 to write the vin to the module
-go to ncs expert, write the cas vo to the nfrm module
-go back (where it says cas, frm,nfrm) and select nfrm
-validate that it shows your vin and vo
- you will then have to simulate the new module (only needed for frm 2..frm 3 does it automatically)
-in the vo just remove your production date and put 0307 click ok
-the read your nfrm module and code the module using expertmode profile.
-this will load all default values into the new nfrm module and your done
-just remember to simulate the 0307 production date whenever you want to code the nfrm



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f00gami posted this:

The basic steps:
1) Remove FRM, install FRM2.
2) Use WinKFP to program the module, make sure to enter your VIN-number before programming.
3) Switch to NCS-EXPERT. Get your Vehicle Order from the CAS module (as we are unsure of what the FRM2 module contains.
4) Write the Vehicle Order to module "FRM" using job "FA_WRITE"
5) Go back to the main menu (or restart ncs-expert) and get the vehicle order from the "NFRM" module. Make sure NFRM returns YOUR VIN and YOUR VO. We want the VIN (FG) and VO (FA) to be the same in both CAS and NFRM.
6) You now need to do the trick described by 4711 a couple of posts back, i.e. change the production date in the VO to at least #0307. If you don't do this, ncs-expert will not list NFRM (=FRM2) in the "Process ECU"-list and you won't be able to code it. Change the VO using the "Enter FA" option - remove your production date and enter #0307 (meaning march 2007).
7) Now click "Process ECU" and select "NFRM"
8) Switch to a profile which supports FSW_PSW manipulation and code the module using an empty FSW_PSW.MAN.

Done! The above is not exactly a step-by-step description and assumes you have some knowledge of tools like ncs-expert and WinKFP.



If anyone could add, make this easier/clearer, provide tips, we would all appreciate it.

I've used NCS to code a few things on my car already, but have not used WinKFP.
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Does anyone have good directions on how to do this? I want to code my NFRM in my 06 330i.
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Yes. I wish to do this. I have purchased the FRMII. Now looking for instructions in how to do this. Good directions.
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or the newest FRM3 (from 09+).
My car is built 02/2010 and still has FRM2
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