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      01-21-2012, 03:20 PM   #1
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Pre-LCI & LCI OEM Xenon Upgrade Options Thread - OSS, LS3 & Others

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I have been trying to piece info together on all of the options available to us for modifying our headlights. I am looking to have mine done and it has been a task finding out all the different companies that do the work and getting honest reviews about quality, service time, warranty and customer service. I will list the options and those who provide them:
  • Black Out Housing & Shrouds
  • Black Out Turn Signals
  • LED Ring Installation
  • Quad Projectors
  • Black Out Amber Reflectors
  • Custom Shrouds
  • Color Coded Shrouds
  • Color Coded Amber Reflectors

There are different companies that perform some if not all of these mods and I've found:
  • OSS Designs[intermediate]
  • BavX [least expensive]
  • 180customs [most expensive]

I will also make mention of DIY projects and those who have performed them along with pics.
  • FDriller - Custom rings & Ambient LED rings
  • Marc[LUXAngeleyes] - Custom Carbon Fiber Ambers & Rings

E92 vs E90 Modding - Whats the Dif?

You may find the cost of service for customizing E90 headlights is more than E92 lights. There is a reason for that. E92 & M3 lights can be baked open and resealed. The process is not so simple with the E90. The plastic around the lens must be deformed and pried apart or what some do is cut them. Make sure to ask which process your service provider is doing. As far as I know, 180customs cuts them open. I don't know about OSS and BavX.

I found a comparison to share. Be warned. This was a DIY cutting of the lens, this is not a vendors work. I just wanted you to get an idea of the ease and difference between the two.







OSS - Based in FL









OSS uses Umnitza rings. They are best known for their work on E92's but they do work on E90's as well. Options that they offer include black out of housing, amber and turn signal lens. In addition, they have color matched housings/shrouds. The main problem with OSS is getting in touch with them. If you send them a pm or email don't expect a reply on the first attempt. You may have to contact them several times but people eventually get through. Their prices are fair. Look to spend roughly $700 for a full black out not including shipping. Turn around time is usually 2-3 days and people are really happy with the end product. I have heard of condensation in the lights but there aren't too many E90's that I know of running them. Luis, the owner seems to really stand behind his work so I am sure he would correct any issues if they were to arise. I may be mistaken but warranty is 1 year. Click here for their dedicated thread.

LS3 (BavX) - Based out of CA







BavX has a very appealing set up they are offering but just like OSS they are hard to get a hold of as of late. They have proprietary rings that they call Lite System 3. They have gone through various versions and are now on the third. The LCI pics above are the 3rd generation. The Pre-lci are the 2nd generation. Per their thread found here the rings are $350 and the install is $200. They offer a black out option at no cost. This is the best deal out there at this time. Their warranty is 1 year as well. Unfortunately there aren't too many people rocking them in order to get reviews about durability and condensation. Once again, they would likely stand behind their product but you need to get a hold of them first before you can get their product or relay quality issues. Turn around time is stated to be 2-3 days.


180customs (OneEighty) - Based out of NY



The full meal deal right here. One eighty has done some amazing work. They work on all different makes of cars and their owner states that he has done conversions on over 300 pairs of headlights. They primarily work on G35's or that is where they started. I spoke to one of their reps and they have done mods on a few E90's and other bimmer lights. They assured me that their work is quality and from what I have seen and read; I don't doubt it. They have proprietary rings called "Orb Rings" which they sell by themselves as a $300 kit with instructions [3 failures out of 110 in a year]. But if you are looking to do the full overhaul, then they have custom shrouds, OEM custom writing on your projectors, quad projectors, carbon fiber accents, color coded housings and much more. Since they have the most options out there you can tally up a fair sized bill. For basic options they charge $300 for the orbs and $400 to install them. That's $700 rings installed no black out. Additional error free hid projectors are $600. Their turnaround time depends on the work you are having done but should be an average of 2-3 days. Warranty is 1 year. They are not a vendor on this forum so google them for their info.

********* Custom Ambient LED Rings - DIY









********* created his custom headlights with inspiration from other DIY'ers but he put his own little twist on it. He blacked out the ambers and put circuitry in place that allows for the Angel Eyes to be brightened during the day and dimmed in the night. It is a highly skilled DIY job but if you are confident in the skills needed click here to read more on his work. He has said he will roll out a full DIY at some point. There is a youtube clip of them in action but I don't know how to embed here. Go to his thread if you want to see it.

MDS82 [Luxangeleyes] - Custom LED Rings & Carbon Fiber Amber - DIY







Marc, owner and creator of the famous LUX angel eye led bulbs for the E9X community put together this set that he called the ultimate E90 headlights. He laid real carbon fiber over the ambers and made custom LED rings. The specs of his set up can be found here. I have read posts where he said he does not offer this service anymore so don't go flooding him with PM's.

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Thats all I have for now. If there is another DIY or Professional service that I missed please let me know. Also, if any of the vendors or DIY'ers I mentioned want something included in the description let me know and I will add it.

I should just make mention that there are non OEM options like Umnitza, Depo or Fishcake headlights. They were outside the scope of this thread. On a minor note. My advice is go OEM or go with a very well established retrofitter like one eighty. There are too many quality issues with non oem based setups.

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I bought mine from Umnitza but I can't remember if they have the option to mail in for the install....pretty sure they do. Their price for the orion V2 is very good....less than what LUX V3's cost. And then if you do the install yourself....enough said...
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I bought mine from Umnitza but I can't remember if they have the option to mail in for the install....pretty sure they do. Their price for the orion V2 is very good....less than what LUX V3's cost. And then if you do the install yourself....enough said...
I believe e92 lights are a lot easier to mod as you can open the housing with a lot less effort than the e90's. I believe most people cut the e90 housings open if I am not mistaken. It would be good to find out what process each customizer uses. I know 180customs cuts them open. Of course if you have the cohones to open up your housings and the skills to seal them properly then you are set. We need you as a vendor. Buying the rings would be a DIY venture. Not sure if I would send my lights to umnitza to cut open and reseal. The few who have bought the depo retrofits have shown condensation in the lights.
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Hi,
Im living in Vietnam, where it's pretty humid. I've had the OSS kit for 6 months & just passed the raining season, & I dont see any condensation issue.

Btw, during the time on inquiry, Luis was helpful & responsive with my questions. It wasn't hard for me to get in touch with him.

I think it's well worth my money with the transaction.
If I were to start all over again, I'd still go with OSS.
A very happy camper here!
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Yeah I got lucky with my shop here. They were really good with doing work on headlights and fairly priced.

But the Umnitza's are OSS....and they have a good rep as far as I've seen...
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Very nice compilation of angel eye setups in the first post !!!!!!!!
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Yeah I got lucky with my shop here. They were really good with doing work on headlights and fairly priced.

But the Umnitza's are OSS....and they have a good rep as far as I've seen...
I made mention that OSS uses their rings. They are truly nice rings. They get great reviews. My only issue with umnitza is their retrofitting of Depo lights. There are a handful of people who have posted when they bought them and they seemed to all have an issue whether it was mis-aligned projectors, condensation in the light, or misrepresentation of the product. This isn't about them though so I will try not to go into it. Just trying to highlight E90 Xenon customization options.

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Very nice compilation of angel eye setups in the first post !!!!!!!!
Indeed. The vendors on here plus the DIY'ers have done some excellent work. I just wish their services were more readily available. I have been trying to contact OSS and BavX with no success.

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OSS is beautiful and like speedfan posted. He went through a rainy season in Vietnam and no condensation in his lights. That is quality.
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I posted these in the LS3 Official Gallery but here are my V2 unfortunately they do not make this color anymore but I love this color which is basically the same as the OSS as I compared to a friend of mine. I can however say that BavX did a great job sealing mine. Had it for over a year now and going on my second winter with no condensation issues whatsoever. And this is actually the same car as the first two pics in BavX just removed my cf splitter

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I posted these in the LS3 Official Gallery but here are my V2 unfortunately they do not make this color anymore but I love this color which is basically the same as the OSS as I compared to a friend of mine. I can however say that BavX did a great job sealing mine. Had it for over a year now and going on my second winter with no condensation issues whatsoever. And this is actually the same car as the first two pics in BavX just removed my cf splitter
your ride is hot. Thanks for sharing your experience. Thats what this thread is all about. I wish bavX would answer pm's and phone messages. I personally like the ls3 v3 over all the other options, except 180 customs. BavX has the best price and I love the color of the rings. 180 does everything nice but I cannot afford that.
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I posted these in the LS3 Official Gallery but here are my V2 unfortunately they do not make this color anymore but I love this color which is basically the same as the OSS as I compared to a friend of mine. I can however say that BavX did a great job sealing mine. Had it for over a year now and going on my second winter with no condensation issues whatsoever. And this is actually the same car as the first two pics in BavX just removed my cf splitter

Sorry to but in this thread again....but that's exactly how mine look. I just wish I could get a pic like that....any suggestions? I've tried changing shutter speeds but that didn't work either....
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your ride is hot. Thanks for sharing your experience. Thats what this thread is all about. I wish bavX would answer pm's and phone messages. I personally like the ls3 v3 over all the other options, except 180 customs. BavX has the best price and I love the color of the rings. 180 does everything nice but I cannot afford that.
first of all, great write up on all of the LED AEs. I personally would have gone with either OSS or LS3 V3 as i had seen both in person before i made the purchase on the LS3s. i went with BavX as they are close to me and they have worked on my car prior to the AE upgrade. also i prefer the AEs to be more white than blue-ish

Have you tried calling Lawrence or Brad at BavX today? They should be in the office and are pretty good at returning calls.
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first of all, great write up on all of the LED AEs. I personally would have gone with either OSS or LS3 V3 as i had seen both in person before i made the purchase on the LS3s. i went with BavX as they are close to me and they have worked on my car prior to the AE upgrade. also i prefer the AEs to be more white than blue-ish

Have you tried calling Lawrence or Brad at BavX today? They should be in the office and are pretty good at returning calls.
I left them a message on the weekend but they didn't return the call. I am with you 100% about the whiteness in the rings. If I could get a hold of them I would send them to BavX. I will try to call again tomorrow.
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Thanks. Please make sure to keep us posted on what you chose and your experience.


On another note. I have not seen pre-lci lights with either the clear part of the corner lens removed or cut out slits ala 180. Add some LED signals from autolumination and it would be pretty sick.


Option 1 - Removing the clear part of the lens entirely



Option 2 - Cutting 180customs style slits




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Updated the first post with e90 vs e92 comparison.

Anyone use the side LED's from Autolumination?
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Updated the first post with e90 vs e92 comparison.

Anyone use the side LED's from Autolumination?
I am using one of them. Forgot which one in my rear 2 turn signals. But I coded out my car so I wouldn't get any errors.
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whichone's did you end up getting? I'm thinking of just getting '11 OEM xnons but I need to figure out how to rewire it to work!
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whichone's did you end up getting? I'm thinking of just getting '11 OEM xnons but I need to figure out how to rewire it to work!
i didn't pick one because I might get euro xenons. LCI xenons are really nice. Get them if you can. If was to pick one I would get the bavX LS3's because I like the whiteness in the ring but the brightness of OSS is soo amazing.
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