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      02-06-2012, 04:58 PM   #23
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Buy the manual e90. You'll be making a car is normally quite boring to drive much less boring. Believe me, it's worth learning for this car.
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      02-06-2012, 05:00 PM   #24
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The manual my 335 is A LOT easier to drive than my old E46. The clutch is so much lighter on this car.
Don't forget how it applies the brake for you on hills too. The only problem with owning a manual is the fact that driving an automatic is so boring for the rest of your life. Traffic is worth the joy of rowing through the gears on a merge.
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      02-06-2012, 05:08 PM   #25
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Pros:
Develops eye and hand coordination
Requires you to alert while driving
Compression braking is cool
More bromance among peers

Cons:
very few people will be able to drive it
very few people will experience the fun of your car
You might have too much fun, watch the speedometer
Eats a shit ton of more gas yo. Be prepared to be at the pump more often
Very easy to learn how to drive.
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      02-06-2012, 05:17 PM   #26
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Requires you to alert while driving

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If you require an MT to be alert when driving you probably should not be driving at all.

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      02-06-2012, 05:49 PM   #27
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Well a couple months ago there was a forum on here where a guy who had a MT, accidentally shifted to 4th gear instead of 6th, and did $12,000 worth of damage to the car. That can fit into the con section I believe, as I've never heard somebody having a $12k repair bill for improper shifting with an AT.
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      02-06-2012, 06:02 PM   #28
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Well a couple months ago there was a forum on here where a guy who had a MT, accidentally shifted to 4th gear instead of 6th, and did $12,000 worth of damage to the car. That can fit into the con section I believe, as I've never heard somebody having a $12k repair bill for improper shifting with an AT.
This is a HIGHLY unlikely scenario... With an overall 4th gear ratio of 3.67:1, a 335i 6MT driver would have to be going over 142 MPH to exceed the N54 engine’s 7,000 RPM redline in a shift from 5th gear to 4th gear.
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      02-06-2012, 06:04 PM   #29
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Well a couple months ago there was a forum on here where a guy who had a MT, accidentally shifted to 4th gear instead of 6th, and did $12,000 worth of damage to the car. That can fit into the con section I believe, as I've never heard somebody having a $12k repair bill for improper shifting with an AT.
Come on stop trying to scare him like that. You would have to use a lot more force to put it in the wrong gear. Go back to driving your automatic.
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      02-06-2012, 06:07 PM   #30
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6-speed is not more fuel efficient
Actually it is depending on what year you look at. I know a 2006 e90 manual gets 2-3 mpg hwy more then its auto counterpart.
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      02-06-2012, 06:10 PM   #31
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Its not a question of pros/cons its simply a life choice..MT for life.
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Go with MT man.

I learned a couple years back and that made my driving experience so much better.

A stick can make any boring car much more fun. The pros definitely outweigh the cons. In my opinion the only con is traffic but like a previous poster said, it's worth it when you're racing through gears. Automatics are boring
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Well a couple months ago there was a forum on here where a guy who had a MT, accidentally shifted to 4th gear instead of 6th, and did $12,000 worth of damage to the car. That can fit into the con section I believe, as I've never heard somebody having a $12k repair bill for improper shifting with an AT.
That's like saying, even though my kid is 15, we keep his training wheels on. We once heard of a kid who took his training wheels off and he fell off his bike.
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Cons:

very few people will be able to drive it
Not a bad thing if they're carjackers, wives or your teenage kids!

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You might have too much fun, watch the speedometer
I found I paid more attention and got fewer tickets.

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Eats a shit ton of more gas yo. Be prepared to be at the pump more often
Not what CR found although they tested econoboxes and not a Bimmer -- maybe there's something about a BMW that makes you wanna pretend you're Michael Schumacher the moment you depress the clutch?

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Save gas and money with a manual transmission

A stick-shift can save you gas and money, if you can get one
Last reviewed: April 2011

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...vs-auto-ov.htm

In your quest for better fuel economy and more value, don't overlook the benefits of a manual transmission. In recent tests, we've found that a stick shift can improve gas mileage by a notable 2 to 5 mpg, compared with an automatic transmission, and can cut a car's price by $800 to $1,200.
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Very easy to learn how to drive.
I took delivery of my very first stickshift the Friday before the Monday I started a new job in Foggy Bottom in DC.... piece of cake!
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Come on stop trying to scare him like that. You would have to use a lot more force to put it in the wrong gear. Go back to driving your automatic.
Not trying to scare anybody, but that is what happened. We've all made our mistakes before.
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      02-06-2012, 06:34 PM   #37
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      02-06-2012, 06:35 PM   #38
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If you require an MT to be alert when driving you probably should not be driving at all.

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Not a bad thing if they're carjackers, wives or your teenage kids!



I found I paid more attention and got fewer tickets.



Not what CR found although they tested econoboxes and not a Bimmer -- maybe there's something about a BMW that makes you wanna pretend you're Michael Schumacher the moment you depress the clutch?





I took delivery of my very first stickshift the Friday before the Monday I started a new job in Foggy Bottom in DC.... piece of cake!
IRONY MAN what has e90 post turn into jesus. And the automatic trannys in bmws are indeed more fuel efficient btw.
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if you have half a brain in a week ull have it down, and if u thin about what ur supposed to be doing u wont hurt the car. stalling it isnt to hard on the car, slipping the clutch and dropping the clutch will mean ur clutch needs replacement sooner, these cars have clutch delay valves to prevent u from doing any real damage to anything other than the clutch........

go for it, ull love every minute of driving stick
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      02-06-2012, 06:39 PM   #40
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Not trying to scare anybody, but that is what happened. We've all made our mistakes before.
I doubt this will happen in the beginning. He probably won't be driving with high rpms and by the time he downshifts his engine would be practically idling.
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Not trying to scare anybody, but that is what happened. We've all made our mistakes before.
You would almost have to try to get it from 5th to 4th. So hard to do. How old are you? I get the feeling you are young, and if you are, definitely get a MT. If you are commuting to work in LA traffic, like me, its not worth it. There is nothing boring about an auto 335
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You cannot screw up driving stick. Just avoid everything in this video.

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Go for manual ull never look back. Especially with the power behind the car ur looking at,it's def more engaging
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You cannot screw up driving stick. Just avoid everything in this video.

You have to be mentally retarted to drive like that. Good video though, made me laugh and cry at the same time.
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