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      02-21-2012, 05:23 PM   #1
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Paddle Shifters vs. Gear Selector in 335

Leftover 335d 2011 dilemma: I need an automatic transmission for other drivers, yet I prefer a manual tranny. Getting a 335d with Sport Package for many reasons, but best deals happen to be without the paddle shifters.

1) Can I get the same experience using the gear selector, considering I won't be racing on the track? I'll just be having some fun in the early morning hours on some local winding roads. Having the shifters on the wheel sounds nice, but as long as the gear selector works the same, mechanically, as the paddle shifters, that will suffice, as I am used to a stickshift on the floor of my current car.

2) For those who think the paddles work better, etc., what do you think they are worth over the life of the car, in $$?

Thanks in advance for your insight!
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      02-21-2012, 05:26 PM   #2
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If you're a fan of manual transmission, both the gearshift selector AND the paddle shifters are, IMO, something like having sex with your clothes on... over skype. Not particularly satisfying.
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If I'm not mistaken...you can add paddle shifters in as long as you buy the parts.

I could be wrong...but I thought it's an easy fix.

Need to buy paddle shifters, back of steering wheel (plate with holes)/or new steering wheel, wire harness...and I think that's it.


Just me...but I paid extra to have paddle shifters in my last car (as I thought it was the coolest shit) and I used them for a week...never used them again...
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      02-21-2012, 05:40 PM   #4
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I use the paddle shifters on my cars most of the time. The only time I shift with the lever is in gridlock stop and go traffic, going that slow - it doesn't make a safety difference having only one hand on the wheel. Otherwise, both hands on wheel, shifting with the paddles.

With a "d" and your low end torque, I don't know that shifting is that important anyway.
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      02-21-2012, 06:22 PM   #5
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The transmission is different with sport package.
ZF sourced tranny vs. a GM sourced tranny from what I understand.
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      02-21-2012, 06:29 PM   #6
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The transmission is different with sport package.
ZF sourced tranny vs. a GM sourced tranny from what I understand.
thats 328 vs 335 thing
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      02-21-2012, 06:30 PM   #7
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I don't have the paddles and don't miss them, if I need extra performance I put it in DS mode. Paddles are pointless IMO.
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      02-21-2012, 07:01 PM   #8
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Shift paddles and the gear selector both do the same thing, but the paddles are just so much cooler imo. Like MCoupeInsanity said "both the gearshift selector AND the paddle shifters are, IMO, something like having sex with your clothes on... over skype"

The differents is the gear selector is a fat chick and the shift paddle is a 8/10 eye candy.

And of course a 6-speed manual is real rough and kinky sex with a super model.

Say WHAAAAAT.
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If I'm not mistaken...you can add paddle shifters in as long as you buy the parts.

I could be wrong...but I thought it's an easy fix.

Need to buy paddle shifters, back of steering wheel (plate with holes)/or new steering wheel, wire harness...and I think that's it.


Just me...but I paid extra to have paddle shifters in my last car (as I thought it was the coolest shit) and I used them for a week...never used them again...
someone please confirm this. i have a LCI e90 with sport wheel, but no paddle shifters. i also vaguely remember reading on pre-LCI you could just add in the part to the wheel, but would love some confirmation.
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      02-21-2012, 07:24 PM   #10
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Same responce as to your post on the other forum

I have been teaching myself to use the paddles because they are quicker....but the stick is just fine in anything but a race & more natural to drive.
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      02-21-2012, 07:25 PM   #11
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Shift paddles and the gear selector both do the same thing, but the paddles are just so much cooler imo. Like MCoupeInsanity said "both the gearshift selector AND the paddle shifters are, IMO, something like having sex with your clothes on... over skype"

The differents is the gear selector is a fat chick and the shift paddle is a 8/10 eye candy.

And of course a 6-speed manual is real rough and kinky sex with a super model.

Say WHAAAAAT.
Paddles and shifter are not EXACTLY the same - Both controls lock the transmission in manumatic mode when in DS mode, but paddles also have a temporary effect in D mode (unlike the shifter which does not operate in D mode).

Perhaps shifters are for 'losers' like Rolf van Os?
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It's not too difficult or expensive to retrofit paddles to a non-paddle car.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about it, though there are several threads on the forum outlining the process quite well.
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Paddles and shifter are not EXACTLY the same - Both controls lock the transmission in manumatic mode when in DS mode, but paddles also have a temporary effect in D mode (unlike the shifter which does not operate in D mode).

Perhaps shifters are for 'losers' like Rolf van Os?
This is only true for cars produced after ~10/06 from my experience.
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      02-21-2012, 08:40 PM   #14
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This is only true for cars produced after ~10/06 from my experience.
Mine's a 09/03 and it works that way.
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      02-21-2012, 08:48 PM   #15
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Yes you can, I am about to do it on my '06 335i, you buy a new steering wheel that has the cutouts (but retain the airbag and centre trim), buy the paddles, a special harness, et voila! Search the forums, it should run you under 800
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      02-21-2012, 09:07 PM   #16
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The transmission is different with sport package.
ZF sourced tranny vs. a GM sourced tranny from what I understand.
No. All 335's have ZF automatic transmissions, regardless of packages.
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      02-21-2012, 11:45 PM   #17
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Mine's a 09/03 and it works that way.
06/10 and later in non-American date format
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      02-21-2012, 11:50 PM   #18
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06/10 and later in non-American date format
Ah, okay...but you noticed he was talking about a MY11 335d, right? So his ZF6HP28 steptronic works the same way the ZF6HP28 works in my MY09 335d. Not sure how things worked on other models (no 335s) before June 2006 relates to his questions.

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      02-22-2012, 09:20 AM   #19
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If you're a fan of manual transmission, both the gearshift selector AND the paddle shifters are, IMO, something like having sex with your clothes on... over skype. Not particularly satisfying.


I agree. For fun there is nothing like a manual, but it does get tiresome in stop and go traffic.
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      02-22-2012, 09:29 AM   #20
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Tad off topic, well not really...but does anyone have a link for a good read on explaining the automatic trans? I want to read up as much as I can on it and I'm only coming across so much on the forum, mostly banter.

I learned everything about what my smg on my e46 could and couldn't do just by reading more and more so this way I knew what to expect before I bought my car. I would like to do the same here...it seems pretty straights forward for the most part but
- does it roll on hills in manual/self shift mode
- does the clutch disengage at stops where you could roll

things of this nature I'd like to read up on and find out the ins and outs of
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      02-22-2012, 10:39 AM   #21
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While I always prefer a true manual, the paddle shifts are nice in heavy traffic. As far as paddle vs using the shifter my personal experience that the paddles are a bit smoother and quicker, I feel the car shift harder with the shifter. And as a couple of other people mentioned, you can use the paddle while in Auto mode for temporary downshifts for passing or etc. and the car goes back to auto after a few seconds so I really like those options, and I like the feel of the paddle shifters over just the click up an down of the tiptronic shifter
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I always use paddle shifters instead of gear selector when I have passenger beside me. Guess why?
Because mine is RHD and I need to shift to the gear selector to the left to enter +/- mode. IMO this is an extremely stupid setup. I'm afraid I'd touch my passenger's thigh every time I shift with the gear selector. You guys won't feel my problem though since yours are all LHD.
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