[ZetaTre]

NLA

[ctuna]

I downloaded one the other day but it wanted something higher than the version 6.02 vmware I had.

[ZetaTre]

Originally Posted by ctuna

I downloaded one the other day but it wanted something higher than the version 6.02 vmware I had.

Yea, that's why I recommend using VMPlayer 4.0.2: for what we're doing here is more than enough...

[ctuna]

Updates.(see the recent thread from Australia)
Which may not exactly do your car any good.
There was a guy from Australia that got into a big mess.
I worked on trying to get program up for a month using vmware 6 and ended
up learning it pretty well but got stuck on the OBD interface problem.
I tried loading from different sites since there are patches that people make to get this to work like the base hack. The last VM machine that I downloaded for
progrman said I didn't have an up to date version of vm ware. I understand
there is another problem with most based cars which you mentioned the road
is brutal to get this up. Have you got yours going and did do you any good?
Other are saying go right to ista p . Apparently there are some downloads for that now.

Read this thread it brings into question if progman is up to date
enough to use the newer file sets.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=651322

[ZetaTre]

I've personally installed this on about 10 computers, and the dl count of the prior version I had on MediaFire hit 150: I haven't had one single problem.

Progman v32 is the LAST official version from BMW: all the others are put collage and as such I wouldn't be surprised if they don't work.

It worked on another E90 I worked on, aside from problem with the MOST connection which I'm trying to resolve for next release.

As for the thread the guy clearly show something called v41: that is not official BMW stuff, as far as I know (I've been around coding for a couple of years now, but I'm still learning, so I could well be wrong...). They pull out the db from other BMW products and then merge them into Progman.

The version you download here doe not need any patch: once you start the VM you'll get to a Window XP (Embeded) desktop. there you have a link called "Interface Selection" that modify the DiagnosticInterface.php file to work with either EDIC or OPS cars (based on the matrix that is on the desktop). There is 1 single line that is different between EDIC and OPS: everything else is the same.

The only thing you can do wrong is not connect a proper power supply: since voltage readings don't go through the INPA/EDIABAS adapter to the VM all the voltage controls are bypassed and hardcoded. That is why it is mandatory to have proper power supply: aside from putting it in red bold and maybe next time blinking, I don't know what else to do.

[ctuna]

I know a battery charger set to trickle charge is not the same as a power supply but is it good enough ? How long does it take for a typical session and what are the sessions about . The thing I might want to do is add the cd player option for and aftermarket ipod interface. What other usefull things can you do with it that you can't do by the simple methods of coding.
Also I though progman used ediabas as a file source for many things so what you have or don't have could easily effect it.

[ZetaTre]

Originally Posted by ctuna

I know a battery charger set to trickle charge is not the same as a power supply but is it good enough ?

In short, no, but : it's in red and there's a link. During coding I've seen the current supplied by the charger and required to maintain a voltage of 14.5v can bump up to 20Amps. If the charger doesn't supply enough current the voltage start dropping.

Originally Posted by ctuna

How long does it take for a typical session and what are the sessions about . The thing I might want to do is add the cd player option for and aftermarket ipod interface. What other usefull things can you do with it that you can't do by the simple methods of coding.
Also I though progman used ediabas as a file source for many things so what you have or don't have could easily effect it.

Progman is the programming software that was used by the BMW dealers to update modules, code modules, retrofit modules and perfomr changes to the car & key memory functions.

DIS is the diagnostic and repair software.

I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to with "the simple methods of coding" but if that's NCSExpert that's a factory/prototype level coding. It was not used and never intended to be used by anybody outside of the BMW Group, including dealers. Progman is more limited in what you can and cannot change, but is much safer. A simple typo with NCSExpert and you might end up with an expensive paperweight...

Originally Posted by ctuna

Also I though progman used ediabas as a file source for many things so what you have or don't have could easily effect it.

Ediabas is simply used to establish the communication between the interface and the computer. Not sure what you mean by "a file source for many things so what you have or don't have could easily effect it."

[ctuna]

How long does a typical update session last and I assume the car is turned on to the start state without being started?
What advantages have you seen by updating ?
I have a working copy of DIS57.
I have coded with the base 3 (ediabas , inpa , ncsexpert )
package.

[ZetaTre]

Originally Posted by ctuna

How long does a typical update session last and I assume the car is turned on to the start state without being started?
What advantages have you seen by updating ?
I have a working copy of DIS57.
I have coded with the base 3 (ediabas , inpa , ncsexpert )
package.

Never seen any difference. I don't care about the updates, but in same cases they are required in order to retrofit modules...

It can take many hrs...

[ctuna]

Are contained in some of the lower level files and Progman was just a higher
level interface with checks and balances the institutes and overall programming and/or update plan. I looked at your power supply and it seem's like its a high current battery charger. My schumacher has settings for trickle or 30 or 70 amps but I don't know that it regulates a constant voltage as in a constant voltage regulated power supply.

[Dziqsek_]

Why use Progman when we have winkpf ? Updating modules, engine and gearbox drivers is far simpler with it

[ctuna]

It knows what to do . (I guess) . About the only thing I have seen documented that you can do with Winkpf on here is change the amp hour value on the battery and register it. What are some of the other things you can do with it and most importantly how are they done?

[Dziqsek_]

For registering battery we use inpa. Winkpf lets you update every module like lcm(frm), ecu, cas, gearbox driver ccc and many more but you need newesr issa-p files to do it. Ive update my ecu ( gain 20nm of torque) and gearbox changes gears more fluently and a bit faster. But i have EU spec diesel. You can already update your car modules and drivers in dtealership for about 400$ as far as i remember