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      11-28-2015, 06:21 PM   #1
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OEM Low Dust Pads vs Hawk HPS

Looking for some insight from those who went from the revised OEM low dust pads to Hawk HPS:
-What did you like better overall?
-Which has better initial bite?
-Which dusts less?

I already have a set of HPS that I got for my previous E92 but never installed. My current car is due for rear pads soon. Just wondering how the newer OEM low dust pads compare; I like to stick with OEM where possible. My car is a DD.

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Standard HPS or HPS 5.0? From OEM to 5.0s: Daily driving I noticed a stronger initial bite, but the difference wasn't huge. In a performance setting, I can definitely feek the 5.0's stop the car much quicker. They do dust more than my OEM pads on my '11 335, but still less than the OEM pads on my wife's '09 328.
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Standard HPS or HPS 5.0? From OEM to 5.0s: Daily driving I noticed a stronger initial bite, but the difference wasn't huge. In a performance setting, I can definitely feek the 5.0's stop the car much quicker. They do dust more than my OEM pads on my '11 335, but still less than the OEM pads on my wife's '09 328.
Just the standard HPS. If I had the 5.0, I think the decision would be easy lol, they appear to be a clear upgrade over OEM's
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Standard HPS or HPS 5.0? From OEM to 5.0s: Daily driving I noticed a stronger initial bite, but the difference wasn't huge. In a performance setting, I can definitely feek the 5.0's stop the car much quicker. They do dust more than my OEM pads on my '11 335, but still less than the OEM pads on my wife's '09 328.
HPS 5.0 dust more than '11 OEM pads? Really?

I thought they were meant to dust way less.
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Standard HPS or HPS 5.0? From OEM to 5.0s: Daily driving I noticed a stronger initial bite, but the difference wasn't huge. In a performance setting, I can definitely feek the 5.0's stop the car much quicker. They do dust more than my OEM pads on my '11 335, but still less than the OEM pads on my wife's '09 328.
Are you the original car owner? Or replaced pads yourself so you know they were OEM?
335i and 328i pads have different compound so concluding that they dust more or less solly based on both being OEM is incorect premise.
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Switched from OEM to HPS 5.0....

FAR less dusting than oem. You lose that initial bite, but you gain linear braking throughout and better resistance to brake fade. I will never go back to oem.
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I would go with the Hawk 5.0 over the HPS.

5.0 combine the best of the HP+ and the street qualities and low dust of HPS.

Edit- I see you already have HPS.
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Standard HPS or HPS 5.0? From OEM to 5.0s: Daily driving I noticed a stronger initial bite, but the difference wasn't huge. In a performance setting, I can definitely feek the 5.0's stop the car much quicker. They do dust more than my OEM pads on my '11 335, but still less than the OEM pads on my wife's '09 328.
Are you the original car owner? Or replaced pads yourself so you know they were OEM?
335i and 328i pads have different compound so concluding that they dust more or less solly based on both being OEM is incorect premise.
Yes I'm the original owner. And I'm not sure why, but my oem pads seem to dust way less than other 335s I've seen. Dust was basically zero. They had a weaker initial bite though.

Guys, I want to be clear though. Overall, the dust if the 5.0s is very minimal, and they feel GREAT! I could not be happier with my purchase!
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Yes I'm the original owner. And I'm not sure why, but my oem pads seem to dust way less than other 335s I've seen. Dust was basically zero. They had a weaker initial bite though.

Guys, I want to be clear though. Overall, the dust if the 5.0s is very minimal, and they feel GREAT! I could not be happier with my purchase!
It's funny you mention that. I've owned two E92 and the stock pads dust completely different. Not sure what's up with the consistency.

I think it may vary well be that when new they dusted a lot more. As they age the compound seems to get harder and the bite less. Just thinking out loud...
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Good to hear about the Hawk 5.0. Having my Stoptech rotors and Hawk 5.0 pads installed next week.
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Good to hear about the Hawk 5.0. Having my Stoptech rotors and Hawk 5.0 pads installed next week.
Definitely post your feedback, lots of guys asking for more feedback on that particular setup.
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I've had HPS regular on for a few years now for DD and it's like 2% dust if that compared to oem. The fronts are oem and rims become super dusty dirty in a matter of weeks. The rear are HPS and rims basically look clean even after a year. Might be that the dust doesn't stick to the rim or rear brakes don't need to brake as often or as much as the front. Car still has the oem runflat alloy rims on.
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Definitely post your feedback, lots of guys asking for more feedback on that particular setup.
Sure. Getting them installed this afternoon hopefully.
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It's funny you mention that. I've owned two E92 and the stock pads dust completely different. Not sure what's up with the consistency.

I think it may vary well be that when new they dusted a lot more. As they age the compound seems to get harder and the bite less. Just thinking out loud...
You mean dust was less going from your first e92 to the next? BMW changed the part number sometime in 2009, so chances are your second 335i had the low dust versions I was referring to...
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You mean dust was less going from your first e92 to the next? BMW changed the part number sometime in 2009, so chances are your second 335i had the low dust versions I was referring to...
My first E92 was a Early 09.

My second E92 was a mid 2010.

The 2010 seems to dust less.
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I had Hawk 5.0 and will never have them again.
The pads in the back lasted aprox 10.000 miles and the pads in the front only lasted aprox 12.000 miles on my DD. When the front ones where replaced they fell apart.
When they worked they were really good, but poor mileage and them coming apart is not good enough for me.
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I just upgraded to Hawk 5.0. Not good hearing they only lasted 10K miles. Something must be wrong though never read/heard about it lasting so little before it needed to be changed out.
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I had Hawk 5.0 and will never have them again.
The pads in the back lasted aprox 10.000 miles and the pads in the front only lasted aprox 12.000 miles on my DD. When the front ones where replaced they fell apart.
When they worked they were really good, but poor mileage and them coming apart is not good enough for me.
Lots of hard braking? Do you also do any canyon runs / high speed stopping on the regular?
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No Canyon runs. Mostly daily commute on highway.
A few high speed braking from +200 to 120km/h. Never held the brake pedal at red lights to be sure not to warp the discs and to ensure the metal could work. Never had hard braking before coming to a complete stop. I used them but didn't abuse them.
So...I'm a bit disappointed with them
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Hi there
No Canyon runs. Mostly daily commute on highway.
A few high speed braking from +200 to 120km/h. Never held the brake pedal at red lights to be sure not to warp the discs and to ensure the metal could work. Never had hard braking before coming to a complete stop. I used them but didn't abuse them.
So...I'm a bit disappointed with them
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No Canyon runs. Mostly daily commute on highway.
A few high speed braking from +200 to 120km/h. Never held the brake pedal at red lights to be sure not to warp the discs and to ensure the metal could work. Never had hard braking before coming to a complete stop. I used them but didn't abuse them.
So...I'm a bit disappointed with them
Interesting - thx for the feedback. Will report if I experience similar results but 200-->120 isn't something I ever do so we may not be doing a full apples to apples here
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