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      02-28-2012, 11:21 PM   #1
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Torn between two cars. 335 E92 vs. 335 E93

Just for a lark, which would you choose:
Option 1) 2012 335i manual coupe with M sport package, premium and cold package, sparkling black graphite with coral red interior, manual. Moonroof, Nav, Satellite Radio.
Option 2) 2011 335i hard top convertible. Same options as above, oyster interior, manual. LeMans Blue
Hmmm.....didn't think it would be this hard. I have never driven manual, but I am committed to learning and mastering it.
I hear nightmares about the hard top verts, but with the spring coming, dear LORD it's hard to look away, especially in Le Mans Blue.
Mind you, this car will be a keeper- going for 5 years BMW select. Thoughts?

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Get that coupe. Coral red is pure win.
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      02-28-2012, 11:28 PM   #3
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Option 1, largely because of where you live.
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      02-28-2012, 11:29 PM   #4
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Get the e92.

e93 living in Jersey as a daily driver in the winter? No thanks

Plus they're heavier...
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E92

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In all seriousness though, get what you like, not what the forum likes. If you like the E93, get the E93. Personally, my car is an auto and I regret not getting a manual.
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      02-28-2012, 11:37 PM   #6
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Go with option 1! That's what I would choose
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honestly, i am anti automatic, but if i were in the situation the coupe vs vert outweighs the MT vs AT.
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Option one it is! Good point about the Tri State weather. Both are manuals Rude.
I won't lie, I'm a bit concerned learning a stick when the purchase is slated for Saturday morning. Any tips from you veterans so I don't blow my trans, or my engine?
Thank you folks.
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Option one it is! Good point about the Tri State weather. Both are manuals Rude.
I won't lie, I'm a bit concerned learning a stick when the purchase is slated for Saturday morning. Any tips from you veterans so I don't blow my trans, or my engine?
Thank you folks.
good call, read it wrong.
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I get a yeast infection thinking about driving another dood sittin shotgun with the top down and our hands interlocked between the shifter. option 1 pls!!!
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I hear what BMWorNOTHING says all too often. I am just worried about learning on the fly and fucking up a car I have to live with

I really value and appreciate everyone's feedback- keep em comin!
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Iam in your same shoes and iam really leaning towards the E93. I dream about the 85F day and dropping the top on my way to the golf course blastin some smooth jazz.
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Coupe... vert is too heavy.

Drive a stick before you buy, you have to first see if it's for you. As far as tips - don't mis-shift into too low of a gear and overrev your engine. This is a very costly mistake.
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Coupe... vert is too heavy.

Drive a stick before you buy, you have to first see if it's for you. As far as tips - don't mis-shift into too low of a gear and overrev your engine. This is a very costly mistake.
This is what scares the shit out of me.
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Coupe. I've got Coral Red and a MT and I adore my car. Le Mans blue is cool but drop top is not. At least to me. The perfection of the Coupe styling is lost on the hard top. Go with your gut though. You'll be happy with the car either way.
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E93 vert...there's nothing like dropping that top down!
10K miles on mine with no major issues. Good luck!
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I get a yeast infection thinking about driving another dood sittin shotgun with the top down and our hands interlocked between the shifter. option 1 pls!!!
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Option one it is! Good point about the Tri State weather. Both are manuals Rude.
I won't lie, I'm a bit concerned learning a stick when the purchase is slated for Saturday morning. Any tips from you veterans so I don't blow my trans, or my engine?
Thank you folks.
I learned on my M3 that I bought new last year. Did a lot of reading beforehand for tips, best practices, habits to avoid, how a manual transmission actually works and therefore why things need to be done the way they are, etc. I probably learned about as much about driving stick beforehand as you can without actually driving because I didn't want to screw it up. I even created a thread on this forum that generated a lot of really helpful responses: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=501071. I'm told that the E9x cars are actually pretty easy to learn on compared to other MT cars; I haven't spent enough time in other MT cars to confirm that, but I certainly didn't have a problem after doing my homework beforehand.

I recommend initially going out and learning late at night when there aren't any cars out. If you can, try to find a level highly rectangular route (i.e. two long stretches connected on either end by two short stretches) so you can maximize time on the long stretches to get a feel for shifting. Keep going around and around night after night until you feel comfortable. After that, move into driving during the day, but take it easy and give yourself plenty of distance between you and the car in front of you until you start to get an intuitive sense of when to shift, when to clutch in under braking, etc, otherwise you might end up stalling at a bad moment or even rear-ending someone. Stalling is especially likely if you realize you suddenly need to brake hard (e.g. you're about to drive past your destination/intersection) and don't remember to clutch in at the same time. After that, head onto the freeway when there's little to no traffic. That's a really great place to practice upshifting and rev-matched downshifting because you can safely use third through sixth at highway speeds. Just travel at a constant speed and work your way up and down those four gears. Note that if you're in the break-in period you should omit third from this exercise. Just remember not to shift TOO many times at short intervals before staying in one gear for a bit to give your clutch a break.

After that, go out at night again and find a really steep hill somewhere to practice starting on a hill. The best scenario of all is to find a street that has curb parking with nobody actually parked there. Pull up right alongside the curb to get out of the way of actual traffic, and then you can start and stop (and probably stall) to your heart's content without bothering anybody. If you stall, just remember you can always pull the e-brake to stop rolling backwards if you can't brake hard enough to stop while the engine is off and power brakes aren't available. You can use the e-brake hill start method during actual driving until you've mastered doing it without, but I actually found it easier to just go straight to doing it properly without relying on that method. Here too make sure not to do too many hill starts in a row without driving around for a bit to cool your clutch down.

Finally, you'll also want to practice going backwards up that hill without rolling too far forward initially since you'll need to be able to handle your car well in both directions if you ever need to park between cars on a hill and don't want to hit them.

Good luck! And trust me, it's worth it.
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Thanks to everyone for their input. Feedback has been amazing! Just curious though, what is it about E93s that elicits mehs and kinda feminista sentiments toward them?
Thanks again to all for your time and help!
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Thanks to everyone for their input. Feedback has been amazing! Just curious though, what is it about E93s that elicits mehs and kinda feminista sentiments toward them?
Thanks again to all for your time and help!
For me, e93s always represented diluted BMW because of the extra weight that slowed the car down and dulled the handling. that's really all. my logic was if i was to buy a car that is pretty expensive to enjoy its sporty capabilities, then i would buy the car in its sportiest form. vert' goes against that for me personally. but if you dont mind couple of tenths on 1/4 mile (because it will still be fast) and a bit more weight on the cornering then of course it will be glorious for you in the sunny day with top town. just make sure that few tenths of potential will not bother you after you buy the car. for me that what if would kill me. but that's me...
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