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      03-03-2012, 01:58 PM   #1
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Exclamation e90 front wheel bearing issue's,read inside-opinions plz-PICS INCLUDED

ok folks 2 front wheel bearings were away in my car,2 original bmw ones from new car just turned 100k

i got 2 new bearings of motorfactors on ebay,

65.50 each for hub bearings

Manufacturer = ** NORDIC **

bolt on hub bearing

1st bearing fitted 2 weeks ago, ok no issues until today

2nd bearing fitted 1 week ago and
it bringing up abs/dtc etc lights due to faulty bearing
so i took it off and installed old bearing and lights all went out again

so i told motorfactors this and returned it and they replaced it with another,

so today i got replacement bearing and fitted it
and thanks god no light on dash

but still small whine at 50mph

on inspection the 1st bearing i fitted has 1-1.5mm of play on moving wheel from top to bottom and side to side as good leverage

so has play in bearing after just 2 weeks of use,but bearing is not gritty/grubby,i still suspect thi is causing my whine at 50mph + with 2 new bearings fitted

are nordic bearings scrap

any one else use nordic bearings or have issues with front wheel bearings of other manufacters bringing up abs light etc or having paly in them after few weeks/months

all opinions welcome

iv told motorfactors full story and awaiting reply,there consumer service has been very good so far

iv told them i wish to get full refund for both bearings,so can buy 2 genuine wheel bearings from bmw or better more expensive reputable bearings
as this is a complete nightmare for me seriously frustrating

have i just been unlucky and got few bad bearings or is nordic bearings just pure dirt


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      03-03-2012, 06:47 PM   #2
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Its your lucky day.
I replaced both my fronts yesterday.

I used these:
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/BM...283be14&000370

I also had a dash full of errors and thought exactly like you did that the sensor pickups were bad inside.
Or I thought maybe i damaged an ABS sensor...

Turns out the error was steering angle sensor.
I was yanking the rack about lock to lock whilst working, and this combined with new hub senders confused it.
Reset the error in the DTC module with my BT cable and all was fine and still is of course.

The parts I pointed too, above, is made by SKF.
It is IDENTICAL to the oem parts I removed from my 2006 car, also branded SKF and with same part numbers.
This is a genuine part, with genuine BMW bolts, for a lot less money.

I would recommend this kit.

The bolts are ONE TIME USE don't forget - never re-use them

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I work in engineering and INA, SKF, *** are industry standard. We have used cheap bearings in the past but have proved to be useless.
If it has play after 50 miles I would get them sent back and put the skf bearings in. If the bearing where to collapse your in a hedge mate not worth the risk.
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      03-05-2012, 01:52 PM   #4
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Indeed, and these particular parts I listed above (by SKF) are definately the 'genuine BMW' without the box and waranty of 2yrs of course.
Even the bolts are genuine and come in regular BMW parts packets and labeled as per oem.
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Yep...I only endorse INA, SKF and NTN bearings - to this effect I replaced a concentric slave cylinder in a car yesterday that was exhibiting a noisy release bearing - less than 18mths old and less than 10k covered.

Dragged it out of the gearbox to find no ID or manufacturer markings on either the bearing or the hydraulic components. It just doesn't pay to use unbranded or unknown critical components.

Needless to say the new part that went in was an AP part with an SKF bearing clearly fitted.
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Would a battery disconnect reset something like this?
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i returned the Nordic hub bearings

just bought F.A.G. hub bearings today from my local motorfactors,
supposed to be very good relaible manufacturer

yet to fit,

hopefully thee will work out ok
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Would a battery disconnect reset something like this?
No, the pickup for the ABS sensor is contained within the bearing, it obviously wasn't there or incorrectly sited within.

Why do all bearing manufacturers have three letter names????
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*** are fine we use a lot of German machinery and they come with *** bearings they will do the job fine.
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F.A.G is what it is suppose to say lol
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I am curious
My 320d 06 has done 117000 and has only had new shocks front and back. It has Just passed mot and mechanic said its "fresh as a daisy" "it's like a new car underneath" and there is no play in anything.
Where the bearing ready to collapse? Or is it preventive maintenance?
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No, the pickup for the ABS sensor is contained within the bearing, it obviously wasn't there or incorrectly sited within.

Why do all bearing manufacturers have three letter names????
Just sat reading.

And realised how I screwed up and got a steering angle fail with a dash full of DSC error lights.

I put the key and ignition on at one point to release the steering lock to swing the rack around.
I would have had the ABS sensors out at the time too.
And I was spinning my super smooth new hubs later on.

There must have been wear in them as the feel (even before geo tweaks) was very different.
No play was notable by hand on the wheels, but very slight noise present is now gone.

Doh!

Car drives very nicely now, had the geo done too and all corners toed out slightly on inspection - no wonder it was skittish.
That will be the new Eibachs settling down since they were fitted and the geo done over a year ago!
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both front bearings were grubby/gritty when spun by hand,
and making whine wirrring noise at 45mph +
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both front bearings were grubby/gritty when spun by hand,
and making whine wirrring noise at 45mph +
Blimey, you must have fast arms
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Pearse / Mibjr ---

I did not realize that completion of this job would result in error/warning lights. Would that be the case in general? Or, was it because of something you did.

Thanks in advance!
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Dr D ---

Can you clarify how the ABS sensor pick-ups are contained in the bearing?
I bought a new pair of bearing/hub unit manufactured by F.A.G. Can I assume those will have the "pick-ups" inside already?

Thanks!
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Why do all bearing manufacturers have three letter names????
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They will have the right parts inside - dont worry

You wont expect an error - I left the keys in and ignition on by mistake
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Got the bearings replaced. Bad news is that the sound is still there. Could very well be that the original bearings were fine. I hand rotated one of the hub/bearings that was removed. There was a slight friction/rubbing sound, very faint.

BTW --- orig bearings off the car were manufactured by KOYO of Japan --- not F.*.G of Germany, like the replacements.

So, it could very well be that I need all 4 tires re-balanced. Or, that the ContiSportContact 2's need to go.
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Got the bearings replaced. Bad news is that the sound is still there. Could very well be that the original bearings were fine. I hand rotated one of the hub/bearings that was removed. There was a slight friction/rubbing sound, very faint.

BTW --- orig bearings off the car were manufactured by KOYO of Japan --- not F.*.G of Germany, like the replacements.

So, it could very well be that I need all 4 tires re-balanced. Or, that the ContiSportContact 2's need to go.

hey what was the outcome?
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hey what was the outcome?
Well --- I'm just 'living with it --- the noise".

My front tires have ~ 40K miles, but still quite a bit of tread left. Rears only have ~ 15K. I want to wait for another 10K or so before changing all 4 tires. Likely I'll change to non-RFT's --- maybe Michelin PS A/S Plus or BFGoodrich G Force Comp 2s, or maybe just inexpensive Kumho or Hankook.

Hopefully it's the tires making the noise.

Overall, I've been driving with the noise for over 20K miles now. It has gotten louder, but I can deal with the noise.

Are you having similar issues?
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UPDATE: the supposedly 'bearing' noise went away --- after replacing tires. New tires are Michelin Pilot Sport A/S. Very quite and great grip!

Finally, I got enough miles out of the ContiSportContact 2's (run flats) to justify replacing the tires. Got 55K miles on fronts and 25K mi on the rears.

Fronts were still OK tread wise, but bean to 'feather'. Front left was feathering on the inner side of the tire. Front right was feathering on th outer side of the tire --- any guesses on how alignment needs to be adjusted?

For the rears, the rear right was worn almost to no more tread. Rear left has plenty tread left --- maybe another 10K? Does the rear differential favor transferring the torque to the rear right?

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