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      04-26-2015, 01:06 PM   #1
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"SPORT" suspension for "BASE" models

Guys, I've been holding out to do the BMW performance suspension kit, but the cost and time are not going allow. Nor do I really want the car super low. I think new OEM sport setup is what I want. I know the springs and shocks are different than the base model I have. What else is different? Sway bars? Thanks in advance. (I went through this about 3yrs ago and forgot what actually was different!)
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Just find a set of used sport springs (which match your current car) and pair them with new struts/shocks from Bilstein, Koni, etc.
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not worth the money and effort of getting them installed and realigned. get a set of koni or bilstein shocks instead, paired with stiffer eibach or BMW PS springs (yellow ones). stock zsp is pretty terrible as well. also, you can find a used M3 front sway bar for pretty cheap these days.

can't believe you spend all those money on all those uber expensive OS Giken lsd and Dinan parts, while still riding on stock shocks and springs...
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Guys, I've been holding out to do the BMW performance suspension kit, but the cost and time are not going allow. Nor do I really want the car super low. I think new OEM sport setup is what I want. I know the springs and shocks are different than the base model I have. What else is different? Sway bars? Thanks in advance. (I went through this about 3yrs ago and forgot what actually was different!)
You need at least a front sway bar, the rear is hard to change( so get some Rear sway bushings).

You should go for one of the following shock and spring kits:
10mm less than sport:
-Eibach spring and shock kit with sway bars or without
-Bilstien b12
-Swift springs plus Koni Str.t stand alone or Yellow. Or Bilstien HD or B8
-Dinan springs and a set of shocks from the Swift option

More low- 20-25 mm lower than sport:
-H&R Shcok Spring kit
-Koni Str.t
-Koni Sport plus springs

if the above is still too much, look at 2011+ 3 series Msport shocks and a set of some kind of springs, maybe used.
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      04-29-2015, 10:11 PM   #5
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You need at least a front sway bar, the rear is hard to change( so get some Rear sway bushings).

You should go for one of the following shock and spring kits:
10mm less than sport:
-Eibach spring and shock kit with sway bars or without
-Bilstien b12
-Swift springs plus Koni Str.t stand alone or Yellow. Or Bilstien HD or B8
-Dinan springs and a set of shocks from the Swift option

More low- 20-25 mm lower than sport:
-H&R Shcok Spring kit
-Koni Str.t
-Koni Sport plus springs

if the above is still too much, look at 2011+ 3 series Msport shocks and a set of some kind of springs, maybe used.
I thought the M Sport shocks/suspension is identical to ZSP (sport suspension)? I drive an M Sport and my car sits pretty low, surely lower than a sports suspension. I am the second owner, it should still have the stock suspension.
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You need at least a front sway bar, the rear is hard to change( so get some Rear sway bushings).

You should go for one of the following shock and spring kits:
10mm less than sport:
-Eibach spring and shock kit with sway bars or without
-Bilstien b12
-Swift springs plus Koni Str.t stand alone or Yellow. Or Bilstien HD or B8
-Dinan springs and a set of shocks from the Swift option

More low- 20-25 mm lower than sport:
-H&R Shcok Spring kit
-Koni Str.t
-Koni Sport plus springs

if the above is still too much, look at 2011+ 3 series Msport shocks and a set of some kind of springs, maybe used.
I thought the M Sport shocks/suspension is identical to ZSP (sport suspension)? I drive an M Sport and my car sits pretty low, surely lower than a sports suspension. I am the second owner, it should still have the stock suspension.
Msport shocks only from 3series 2011+ is significantly different they were much better than my aged 1series msport
Msport for 1series is only different springs in the back after 2011 the shock stay the same
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Get the Bilstien B12 kit (or atleast the shocks from them) and M3 control arms. The car will lower maybe an inch, and the handling will be pretty awesome. Parts should cost about $1100 or so.
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good info guys. Thanks.... Let me start looking into it now.
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OP, I was in the same position as you (base suspension, wanted a drop but not to look slammed) and ended up going with the Bilstein B12 kit and I couldn't be happier.
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Billy b12 kit looks good. That and a oem sport front sway bar. Definitely going this route. I'll do some research and see if I need any bump stops or misc items changed out for Sport suspension. Do a OEM Sport front sway bar, call it a day. thank you guys for this recommendation!! this is exactly what I'm looking for a great price and not some hacked piece meal aftermarket kit.

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FYI, Whiteline Suspension has 13mm and 15mm rear poly sway bar bushings for $4.88 a set on clearance right now. I snagged a set, very cheap and noticeable performance upgrade.
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FYI, Whiteline Suspension has 13mm and 15mm rear poly sway bar bushings for $4.88 a set on clearance right now. I snagged a set, very cheap and noticeable performance upgrade.
Thank you
Can you Link to the store you used ?

I wanted to find a vendor for these thats more accessible
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B12 is a great option definitely!
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OP, thanks for starting this thread. I am in the same situation - own a base model and want to improve the suspension. I will be interested to hear your review after you do the upgrade. Have you decided what you are going to install?
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FYI, Whiteline Suspension has 13mm and 15mm rear poly sway bar bushings for $4.88 a set on clearance right now. I snagged a set, very cheap and noticeable performance upgrade.
Neat!

How did you install them? I searched, but couldn't find an answer to my question: are the new bushings split down the middle so that you can slip them on easily, or do you have to drop the subframe and pull the bar off to slide them onto the OEM bar? I'm assuming the OEM bar is 13mm, correct?

Thanks!
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http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_..._number=W23397

is that it??

Just want to be sure before i buy.....???
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are the new bushings split down the middle so that you can slip them on easily?
I'm assuming the OEM bar is 13mm, correct?

Thanks!
I assume yes, split in bottom.
Check RealOEM for your sport or non Sport rear bar - there may be a difference in size
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http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_..._number=W23397

is that it??

Just want to be sure before i buy.....???
Yes buy inthe OEM size which is either 15mm or 12mm - see Real OEM
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FYI, Whiteline Suspension has 13mm and 15mm rear poly sway bar bushings for $4.88 a set on clearance right now. I snagged a set, very cheap and noticeable performance upgrade.
Thank you
Can you Link to the store you used ?

I wanted to find a vendor for these thats more accessible
supergoat Can you link us please to the store?
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question for you guys... Im looking at picking up a used msport suspension shocks/springs from a 2011 e90 335D to be fitted on my 2011 335i e90 base suspension.. is there any reason why it wouldn't work or any advice from you guys? is there anyting else I would need to buy or change out to make it work, ex) different bumpstops...

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I appreciate the info.. thank you
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supergoat Can you link us please to the store?
Oh hell, I haven't checked this thread for a bit.

Here are the 15mm:
http://www.whitelinesuspensionparts....sp?prod=W23399

Looks like they sold out of the 13mm.
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