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      06-10-2013, 10:53 AM   #1
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I believe my water pump is about to go out. I'm getting a really loud noise that sounds like marbles in a jar. My question is if I should buy an aftermarket one? My car went out of warranty last month.
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Normally that noise is related to vanos. The newest oem pump is the way to go.
You can test the pump with inpa.
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      06-10-2013, 11:49 AM   #3
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Normally that noise is related to vanos. The newest oem pump is the way to go.
You can test the pump with inpa.
My water pump was already replaced at 45k. So I hope it is vanos. How much is to get that repaired?
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      06-10-2013, 11:52 AM   #4
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well you should get vanos codes if they are faulty.
easy to replace by yourself. check realoem for part number and price.
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Here's a DIY on replacing the vanos: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=486201

Sometimes you can get away with just cleaning them but it's probably best to replace them. The part number is 11367585425 and RealOEM has them listed for around $118.
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Here's a DIY on replacing the vanos: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=486201

Sometimes you can get away with just cleaning them but it's probably best to replace them. The part number is 11367585425 and RealOEM has them listed for around $118.
What do you recommend cleaning them with?
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The car isn't giving any codes but I hear the fan come on with cold start. I got on it on the way home temps got up to 250 then went back down to 230.
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The car isn't giving any codes but I hear the fan come on with cold start. I got on it on the way home temps got up to 250 then went back down to 230.
Theres nothing odd about those oil temps, if thats what youre talking about.
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The car isn't giving any codes but I hear the fan come on with cold start. I got on it on the way home temps got up to 250 then went back down to 230.
Theres nothing odd about those oil temps, if thats what youre talking about.
Will you hear the water pump if the car is at those temps?
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You can barely hear the pump running full speed with the engine not running.
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Any other suggestions???
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take it to a bmw shop and tell them to test the pump with their software. you can also do it yourself with inpa.
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take it to a bmw shop and tell them to test the pump with their software. you can also do it yourself with inpa.
Can you please post a DIY on doing that with INPA ?
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Is under actuations . You need to test all pwm % requested with engine on . Especially max one . If you set 95% and it only goes like 80-85% than its on is way out
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Im installing new pump , but new one says it needs to be coded ? You know anything about this?
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Our customers have had a lot of luck with the aftermarket VDO water pumps. They are great quality pumps for a bit less than the genuine pumps. Keep in mind you also need new install hardware as the bolts are torque to yield.

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Im installing new pump , but new one says it needs to be coded ? You know anything about this?
No coding is necessary on the N54 when changing the water pump.
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Also , the new pumps use shorter bolts , dont forget that important matter , I got mine from ECS , but I got 2 sets of bolt , short and long. My thermostat was busted so I got one from Europe dirt cheap ...
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Guys the noise came back today but it only does it when ac is on. Here is a video.

http://youtu.be/i6U-wNn8ptI
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hmmm,

sounds like a bad A/C pulley maybe?

I had a noise not as bad, but it was a bolt that was left behind from my WG fix at the dealer. The bolt was hitting the fan blade. damn dealer... no harm no foul.
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hmmm,

sounds like a bad A/C pulley maybe?

I had a noise not as bad, but it was a bolt that was left behind from my WG fix at the dealer. The bolt was hitting the fan blade. damn dealer... no harm no foul.
If that's the case, do I have to change the compressor?
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If that's the case, do I have to change the compressor?
I dunno..
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