E90Post
 


GTB Performance
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > ER piping with helix FMIC



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      04-24-2012, 07:30 PM   #1
robc1976
DIYER
74

 
robc1976's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 335i
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Illinois


Posts: 4,708
iTrader: (11)

ER piping with helix FMIC

I got a ER about 2 weeks ago and actually am going to get a helix, reason is this (I like the size of the helix and quality of the face, and a lot more pleasing on the eyes). I am NOT saying my ER does not perform it does....my buddy has helix and we removed the bumper and his just looks better and mine is easily seen. With the said, is anyone using the ER lower intercooler piping with a Helix FMIC? The ER piping is pretty close to stock location so I imagine it would fit pretty good.

For those of you who own a ER FMIC I am not downing your product..li just prefer the larger face of the Helix, I know it also performs because my buddy has one in his 335i. I also know my ER performs...so it's a win/win...big size and great performance and SOMEONE will get a GREAT deal on a 2 week old ER FMIC lol!!
__________________
JB4 G5, WEDGE flash, 455 LPFP, HFS-4 meth kit, BMS OCC, Motiv 750 ST, RB valve, BMS DCI, 3" AR Dps, Custom OC W/ SS lines, ER FMIC, ER CP W/HKS BOV, M3 control arms, M3 guide rods, M3 upper links, M3 front & rear sway-bars, HPA rear toe arms, Wavetrac LSD, HPF Gen 2 exhaust DEFIV kit, KW clubsport, Delrin solid subframe bushings, stoptech rotors, Rogue Tranny Mounts, 1M bumper, M3 CF hood, MORR VS8.2 rims 245/295
Appreciate 0
      04-24-2012, 08:10 PM   #2
Xander
I'm new
United_States
2

 
Xander's Avatar
 
Drives: 997 carrera, Golf R
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Buffalo, NY


Posts: 248
iTrader: (4)

I have the helix FMIC with the ER charge pipe, it fits fine.

X...
__________________
Appreciate 0
      04-24-2012, 10:20 PM   #3
robc1976
DIYER
74

 
robc1976's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 335i
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Illinois


Posts: 4,708
iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xander View Post
I have the helix FMIC with the ER charge pipe, it fits fine.

X...
I have the ER charge pipe to but I am referring to the lower intercooler pipe (from intercooler to charge pipe).
__________________
JB4 G5, WEDGE flash, 455 LPFP, HFS-4 meth kit, BMS OCC, Motiv 750 ST, RB valve, BMS DCI, 3" AR Dps, Custom OC W/ SS lines, ER FMIC, ER CP W/HKS BOV, M3 control arms, M3 guide rods, M3 upper links, M3 front & rear sway-bars, HPA rear toe arms, Wavetrac LSD, HPF Gen 2 exhaust DEFIV kit, KW clubsport, Delrin solid subframe bushings, stoptech rotors, Rogue Tranny Mounts, 1M bumper, M3 CF hood, MORR VS8.2 rims 245/295
Appreciate 0
      04-25-2012, 02:55 PM   #4
Xander
I'm new
United_States
2

 
Xander's Avatar
 
Drives: 997 carrera, Golf R
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Buffalo, NY


Posts: 248
iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by robc1976 View Post
I have the ER charge pipe to but I am referring to the lower intercooler pipe (from intercooler to charge pipe).
What's the benefit? the OE one doesn't seem too bad.

X...
__________________
Appreciate 0
      04-25-2012, 03:01 PM   #5
robc1976
DIYER
74

 
robc1976's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 335i
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Illinois


Posts: 4,708
iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xander View Post
What's the benefit? the OE one doesn't seem too bad.

X...
The bend coming out of the intercooler is pretty restrictive....I would thnk you would gain a bit of throttle response. Also looks pretty awesome lol! Alo the plastic you can't tighten the clamps as much because it can flex and crack. While I have you here, are you using the shorter ER pipe and the stock OEM lower pipe?
__________________
JB4 G5, WEDGE flash, 455 LPFP, HFS-4 meth kit, BMS OCC, Motiv 750 ST, RB valve, BMS DCI, 3" AR Dps, Custom OC W/ SS lines, ER FMIC, ER CP W/HKS BOV, M3 control arms, M3 guide rods, M3 upper links, M3 front & rear sway-bars, HPA rear toe arms, Wavetrac LSD, HPF Gen 2 exhaust DEFIV kit, KW clubsport, Delrin solid subframe bushings, stoptech rotors, Rogue Tranny Mounts, 1M bumper, M3 CF hood, MORR VS8.2 rims 245/295
Appreciate 0
      04-25-2012, 03:12 PM   #6
Xander
I'm new
United_States
2

 
Xander's Avatar
 
Drives: 997 carrera, Golf R
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Buffalo, NY


Posts: 248
iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by robc1976 View Post
The bend coming out of the intercooler is pretty restrictive....I would thnk you would gain a bit of throttle response. Also looks pretty awesome lol! Alo the plastic you can't tighten the clamps as much because it can flex and crack. While I have you here, are you using the shorter ER pipe and the stock OEM lower pipe?
Yes it't just one bend (on the throttle body side). I hear what you are saying about the OE one, but the boost would only "open" it up wider wouldn't it?

X...
__________________
Appreciate 0
      04-25-2012, 03:54 PM   #7
venom3469
First Lieutenant
United_States
8

 
venom3469's Avatar
 
Drives: 08 AW/R 6MT 335i, YZF-R6.
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Florence, Alabama


Posts: 326
iTrader: (0)

I am looking at both of these setups...why are you switching to the Helix exactly. Is it just the looks or can you actually tell that Helix is better for performance?
__________________
08 335i Alpine White/Coral Red Interior With A PROcede Tune!! 09 Yamaha R6!!
Appreciate 0
      04-25-2012, 06:50 PM   #8
nikitino25
Lieutenant
United_States
7

 
nikitino25's Avatar
 
Drives: '07 E92 335i
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Missouri


Posts: 537
iTrader: (2)

ER FMIC

I might be interested in buying your ER fmic-send me a pm if your're selling it and for how much....
Appreciate 0
      04-25-2012, 09:22 PM   #9
robc1976
DIYER
74

 
robc1976's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 335i
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Illinois


Posts: 4,708
iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by venom3469 View Post
I am looking at both of these setups...why are you switching to the Helix exactly. Is it just the looks or can you actually tell that Helix is better for performance?
I have not tested the helix on my personal car, my buddy has the same exact car with same mods and the helix does perform....so does the ER...I have logs posted on this thread below. Basically it is about looks...I like the larger face you can see thru the lower grill.

Post #28

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=680355&page=2

Here s my car with the ER...sorry about the link, I am posting from my IPad lol!!

http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/7...5407052111.jpg

Bumper off:

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2...5407126352.jpg
__________________
JB4 G5, WEDGE flash, 455 LPFP, HFS-4 meth kit, BMS OCC, Motiv 750 ST, RB valve, BMS DCI, 3" AR Dps, Custom OC W/ SS lines, ER FMIC, ER CP W/HKS BOV, M3 control arms, M3 guide rods, M3 upper links, M3 front & rear sway-bars, HPA rear toe arms, Wavetrac LSD, HPF Gen 2 exhaust DEFIV kit, KW clubsport, Delrin solid subframe bushings, stoptech rotors, Rogue Tranny Mounts, 1M bumper, M3 CF hood, MORR VS8.2 rims 245/295
Appreciate 0
      04-25-2012, 09:32 PM   #10
robc1976
DIYER
74

 
robc1976's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 335i
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Illinois


Posts: 4,708
iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by nikitino25 View Post
I might be interested in buying your ER fmic-send me a pm if your're selling it and for how much....
PM sent!!
__________________
JB4 G5, WEDGE flash, 455 LPFP, HFS-4 meth kit, BMS OCC, Motiv 750 ST, RB valve, BMS DCI, 3" AR Dps, Custom OC W/ SS lines, ER FMIC, ER CP W/HKS BOV, M3 control arms, M3 guide rods, M3 upper links, M3 front & rear sway-bars, HPA rear toe arms, Wavetrac LSD, HPF Gen 2 exhaust DEFIV kit, KW clubsport, Delrin solid subframe bushings, stoptech rotors, Rogue Tranny Mounts, 1M bumper, M3 CF hood, MORR VS8.2 rims 245/295
Appreciate 0
      08-03-2012, 12:12 PM   #11
Karura
First Lieutenant
Canada
5

 
Drives: E92 335is DCT
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Vancouver


Posts: 339
iTrader: (0)

Have you tried using the ER lower piping with th Helix? Also, how come the ER is better than the one Helix provides?
Appreciate 0
      08-03-2012, 12:43 PM   #12
benzy89
Banned
United_States
28

 
Drives: '08 E90 335i
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northern NJ


Posts: 2,396
iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2008 BMW 335i  [3.75]
Helix only provides the core & silicone connection hoses, no cold side piping up to the CP is included
Appreciate 0
      08-03-2012, 01:06 PM   #13
Karura
First Lieutenant
Canada
5

 
Drives: E92 335is DCT
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Vancouver


Posts: 339
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by benzy89 View Post
Helix only provides the core & silicone connection hoses, no cold side piping up to the CP is included
This is quite troubling news, as I like the steped-core, large face design of the Helix, but also like the ER for its shroud and cold piping. What to do?

By the way, does adding meth affect what FMIC chracteristics I should be looking for? Such as flow/pressure over IAT, etc.
Appreciate 0
      08-03-2012, 02:45 PM   #14
benzy89
Banned
United_States
28

 
Drives: '08 E90 335i
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Northern NJ


Posts: 2,396
iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2008 BMW 335i  [3.75]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karura View Post
By the way, does adding meth affect what FMIC chracteristics I should be looking for? Such as flow/pressure over IAT, etc.
Meth won't increase any FMIC's efficiency, look at it more as an additive that specifically increase octane rating (thus creating more HP) and has a substantial cooling effect (separate from the cold air "trapped" by an FMIC or ANY intake)
Appreciate 0
      08-03-2012, 04:18 PM   #15
Alex@H
Colonel
United_States
62

 
Drives: e92 335i
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Miami, FL


Posts: 2,222
iTrader: (8)

Send a message via AIM to Alex@H
Hey,
The Helix silicone couplers can be purchased as well as the J pipe that connects the Intercooler to the upper charge pipe. I do not recall if the ER upper charge pipe fits with the Helix lower charge pipe but we can figure it out. Call the shop to check up on the J pipe. Good call going with the Helix IC. You will be much happier!

267 335 4337
Appreciate 0
      08-03-2012, 05:33 PM   #16
robc1976
DIYER
74

 
robc1976's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 335i
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Illinois


Posts: 4,708
iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex@Helix View Post
Hey,
The Helix silicone couplers can be purchased as well as the J pipe that connects the Intercooler to the upper charge pipe. I do not recall if the ER upper charge pipe fits with the Helix lower charge pipe but we can figure it out. Call the shop to check up on the J pipe. Good call going with the Helix IC. You will be much happier!

267 335 4337
The very second I get confirmation that the ER pipe fits with your FMIC there will be a ER FMIC for sale. The front face of the helix is just a lot better quality....my buddy has the helix and it is a big difference in weld quality.
__________________
JB4 G5, WEDGE flash, 455 LPFP, HFS-4 meth kit, BMS OCC, Motiv 750 ST, RB valve, BMS DCI, 3" AR Dps, Custom OC W/ SS lines, ER FMIC, ER CP W/HKS BOV, M3 control arms, M3 guide rods, M3 upper links, M3 front & rear sway-bars, HPA rear toe arms, Wavetrac LSD, HPF Gen 2 exhaust DEFIV kit, KW clubsport, Delrin solid subframe bushings, stoptech rotors, Rogue Tranny Mounts, 1M bumper, M3 CF hood, MORR VS8.2 rims 245/295
Appreciate 0
      08-03-2012, 05:40 PM   #17
robc1976
DIYER
74

 
robc1976's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 335i
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Illinois


Posts: 4,708
iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex@Helix View Post
Hey,
The Helix silicone couplers can be purchased as well as the J pipe that connects the Intercooler to the upper charge pipe. I do not recall if the ER upper charge pipe fits with the Helix lower charge pipe but we can figure it out. Call the shop to check up on the J pipe. Good call going with the Helix IC. You will be much happier!

267 335 4337
Wait, J-pipe? You guys make a aftermarket lower IC pipe? Could you possibly make this non plastic? The only other issue I can see is the ER makes a "short" CP and a "long" CP but a custom coupler would help this, can a longer than normal hump coupler be purchased?
__________________
JB4 G5, WEDGE flash, 455 LPFP, HFS-4 meth kit, BMS OCC, Motiv 750 ST, RB valve, BMS DCI, 3" AR Dps, Custom OC W/ SS lines, ER FMIC, ER CP W/HKS BOV, M3 control arms, M3 guide rods, M3 upper links, M3 front & rear sway-bars, HPA rear toe arms, Wavetrac LSD, HPF Gen 2 exhaust DEFIV kit, KW clubsport, Delrin solid subframe bushings, stoptech rotors, Rogue Tranny Mounts, 1M bumper, M3 CF hood, MORR VS8.2 rims 245/295
Appreciate 0
      08-03-2012, 11:50 PM   #18
Karura
First Lieutenant
Canada
5

 
Drives: E92 335is DCT
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Vancouver


Posts: 339
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by robc1976
Wait, J-pipe? You guys make a aftermarket lower IC pipe? Could you possibly make this non plastic? The only other issue I can see is the ER makes a "short" CP and a "long" CP but a custom coupler would help this, can a longer than normal hump coupler be purchased?
+1
Appreciate 0
      08-04-2012, 12:41 AM   #19
Alex@H
Colonel
United_States
62

 
Drives: e92 335i
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Miami, FL


Posts: 2,222
iTrader: (8)

Send a message via AIM to Alex@H
lower IC pipe is non-plastic... call on Monday and speak to whoever answers the phone for more info

Alex
Appreciate 0
      08-04-2012, 07:46 PM   #20
TurboAL47
Captain
Philippines
14

 
TurboAL47's Avatar
 
Drives: 335xi coupe
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Queens, NYC


Posts: 920
iTrader: (20)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to TurboAL47
interested in a hard j-pipe as well. please let us know what comes of this.
__________________

'14 SG F15 - MSport / '08 AW E92 | Mods and Photoshoot | FOR SALE
Appreciate 0
      12-21-2012, 07:37 PM   #21
Gemballa1980
Second Lieutenant
4

 
Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Canberra, Australia


Posts: 281
iTrader: (0)

Hey people,

Just to clear this up for anyone still unsure (as I was when it came to ordering and this is the first search result);

I have a late 2007 335i E90 and just fitted a new Helix FMIC and ER charge pipe.

I got the 09+ ER charge pipe (long version) AND got the 09+ Helix FMIC WITH the hard J-Pipe.

You'll see the extra J-Pipe below (available upon request from Helix).

Everything fit perfect and the entire 'cool' side of the FMIC piping is replaced going by this method.

The throttle response is amazing! And am guessing it's due to the whole cool side piping now being solid rather than plastic / rubber.

Hope this helps someone.
Attached Images
  
Appreciate 0
      12-21-2012, 08:11 PM   #22
robc1976
DIYER
74

 
robc1976's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 335i
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Illinois


Posts: 4,708
iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemballa1980 View Post
Hey people,

Just to clear this up for anyone still unsure (as I was when it came to ordering and this is the first search result);

I have a late 2007 335i E90 and just fitted a new Helix FMIC and ER charge pipe.

I got the 09+ ER charge pipe (long version) AND got the 09+ Helix FMIC WITH the hard J-Pipe.

You'll see the extra J-Pipe below (available upon request from Helix).

Everything fit perfect and the entire 'cool' side of the FMIC piping is replaced going by this method.

The throttle response is amazing! And am guessing it's due to the whole cool side piping now being solid rather than plastic / rubber.

Hope this helps someone.
It is, mine is all hard piped to...I have a ER short pipe and ER hard pipe......that is where my issue is.
__________________
JB4 G5, WEDGE flash, 455 LPFP, HFS-4 meth kit, BMS OCC, Motiv 750 ST, RB valve, BMS DCI, 3" AR Dps, Custom OC W/ SS lines, ER FMIC, ER CP W/HKS BOV, M3 control arms, M3 guide rods, M3 upper links, M3 front & rear sway-bars, HPA rear toe arms, Wavetrac LSD, HPF Gen 2 exhaust DEFIV kit, KW clubsport, Delrin solid subframe bushings, stoptech rotors, Rogue Tranny Mounts, 1M bumper, M3 CF hood, MORR VS8.2 rims 245/295
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:00 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST