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      03-28-2016, 12:08 PM   #1
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Dealer says charge pipe "O" ring causing problem

Hey so my charge pipe blew a few days ago and the car had not throttle power and just kept revving.
Dealer called and said the obvious that the charge pipe blew and also added that the "O" ring from the charge pipe got sucked into the throttle body and they need to fix that.

Is this O ring stuff legit??
Quoted $600

I know I need to just get a metal CP but I need to get it outta the dealer first.
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      03-28-2016, 12:39 PM   #2
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What exactly are they fixing for $600?

Where are you getting the "metal" cp installed? Just get the car towed there instead.
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Replacing charge pipe and taking throttle body off I presume to get the O ring. I'm skeptical of the O ring bit and throttle body.
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      03-28-2016, 12:43 PM   #4
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that would be pretty wild for the o-ring to get sucked into the throttle body.
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Let me ask a serious question, is your car modified in any other fashion? Tune, Wheels, Exhaust, intake, anything?

What exactly are the "fixing" for $600?
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Tell dealer that you don't need their service
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Pay the diagnosis fee, have it towed to your house and replace it yourself in under an hour.
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Since no one yet has seemed to actually answer the question:
The reason that the dealer quoted that price and the reason that the car "kept revving" is because the O ring was wedged into the throttle plate and keeping the throttle open. It may be as easy as pulling the O ring out, or the throttle body may require some sort of work or adaptation reset. It could be a DIY issue depending on the OPs skill.
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are you out of warranty? when my charge pipe blew I took off my mods and brought it in, after a bit of back and forth I got it covered by the warranty
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So by fixing they mean taking the O ring out and putting a new charge pipe on.

Dealer called me back later in the day and said the job was done......though I told him that I would call him back after that sweet quote. So now what? I could probably limp home now that the O ring is gone in the event they take it off the car. Never been in this situation of not approving work and then it being done
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So by fixing they mean taking the O ring out and putting a new charge pipe on.

Dealer called me back later in the day and said the job was done......though I told him that I would call him back after that sweet quote. So now what? I could probably limp home now that the O ring is gone in the event they take it off the car. Never been in this situation of not approving work and then it being done
Don't pay for it lol you didn't authorize the repair simple as that
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So how did the tb eat up your old O ring
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Don't pay for it lol you didn't authorize the repair simple as that
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That's bs. Do not pay! You were planning on doing this as a diy ()and you did not approve being charged! The work that needed to be done was pull the old cp off, get the oring outta there and replace charge pipe. You can also easily find diy on throttle adaptations reset as well. Ask what the labor time was, that will tell you if the throttle plate actually needed work or not...but by the quote I'm venturing not.

Be reasonable and say you'll pay the diagnosis fee, but they are eating the cost on this as you know the work needing to be performed, did not approve said work being done on vehicle..and had planned a different route.
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So what was the actual official issue? How many hours did they spend?

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Be reasonable and say you'll pay the diagnosis fee, but they are eating the cost on this as you know the work needing to be performed, did not approve said work being done on vehicle..and had planned a different route.

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So by fixing they mean taking the O ring out and putting a new charge pipe on.

Dealer called me back later in the day and said the job was done......though I told him that I would call him back after that sweet quote. So now what? I could probably limp home now that the O ring is gone in the event they take it off the car. Never been in this situation of not approving work and then it being done
Stand up for yourself and let them know.

A diagnostic fee may be ~$150 (give or take $30). You should expect to at least pay that.

So I don't know what else they are charging you for to get to $600.

My advice is to get the Service Manager involved.

You can drive home with a working throttle body and no charge pipe however power will be severely compromised.
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Whatever you do don't pay the $600.
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How can an o-ring get sucked from the outside of the throttle body to the inside?
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How can an o-ring get sucked from the outside of the throttle body to the inside?
Is that a serious question?
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Let me ask a serious question, is your car modified in any other fashion? Tune, Wheels, Exhaust, intake, anything?

What exactly are the "fixing" for $600?
Exactly what I want to know???


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Is that a serious question?
Yes it is. Unless there was a catistofic failure of the charge pipe there is no way for it to work back towards the turbos ( under pressure none the less) and then get sucked back into the throttle body. It just can't happen in a boosted car like ours unless it was never seated when installed and was inside the tb from the beginning. Even if the charge pipe blew to pieces, the o-ring would remain on the outside of the tb. Maybe it was a broken piece of the charge pipe and not the O-ring?
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Is that a serious question?
Yes it is. Unless there was a catistofic failure of the charge pipe there is no way for it to work back towards the turbos ( under pressure none the less) and then get sucked back into the throttle body. It just can't happen in a boosted car like ours unless it was never seated when installed and was inside the tb from the beginning. Even if the charge pipe blew to pieces, the o-ring would remain on the outside of the tb. Maybe it was a broken piece of the charge pipe and not the O-ring?
I guess I could imagine the cp separating from the tb, and the oring getting sucked directly into the tb as this separation occurred. Makes sense.
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