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wilsjay
04-28-2012
My 2008 335xi driver side mirror was driving me nuts because every time I would get in it and go to check my driver’s side mirror, it would be adjusted to some funky position. My first thought was blame the wife! But then after looking at the position, it made no logical sense, and I knew she had...
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By wilsjay on 05-01-2013, 09:13 PM
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+1 for just popping back in.
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By wshgrntd on 09-05-2013, 11:48 AM
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Thanks I have been looking for this
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By wilsjay on 09-16-2013, 09:12 AM
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I check back on this thread every 3-6 months or so and can't believe the stats. Glad folks have found this helpful as so many other DIYs on here have helped me! I almost never posted this DIY thinking no one else would be interested.
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By jhavard on 10-09-2013, 10:30 PM
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Another thanks; worked like a charm.
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By Mascot on 12-06-2013, 11:59 AM
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Wilsjay, you very kindly took the time to post instructions and photographs to solve a common, but evasive problem. The very least I could do was take the time to register for this forum and offer my thanks.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!

It took me half an hour from start to finish and worked like magic.

This very problem (on my '08 E92 335d) has been driving me mad for over a year, and common internet wisdom suggested the only solution was a new mirror motor. I wonder how many people went down that expensive route unnecessarily?

I must admit I was surprised it worked, as my car is always garaged and the contacts all looked brand new. So maybe simply unplugging the motor forces a reset?

Regardless: it works!

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
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By JerMe404 on 12-20-2013, 10:55 AM
Thanks for this post! Can't believe I didn't come across this thread sooner.

BTW, if you can't find dielectric grease, Vaseline is just as good.
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By roadkillrob on 12-24-2013, 04:12 PM
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Worked like a top, did this almost a year ago now and my mirror still works like new again!
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By Slickascanbe on 12-25-2013, 06:51 PM
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Really appreciate this Wilsjay. I was quoted $800+ from my dealership for some new mirror motors + labor but this worked just as well. Thank you!
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By wilsjay on 12-26-2013, 09:53 AM
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Unbelievable. $800 is absolutely criminal! Especially considering they have this TSB that tells them to try cleaning the contacts before replacing. Not sure what you could do about that, but this is why I always ask for the old parts at least. Glad this helped!
Last edited by wilsjay; 12-26-2013 at 10:06 AM.
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By Boogster on 12-27-2013, 11:51 PM
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Great info!

I will be doing this tomorrow! Like others posting here, it has bothered me for YEARS! But I did not want to go to the "Stealership" (love that term) to pay $$$ for something So easy to just readjust, I can put up with it. But this appears so easy. I was unaware of the TSB.

THANKS!

Update: Done, I hope this fixes the mirror problem. It took ten minutes. I used a plastic car molding pry tool I have to pop the mirror off after pointing the mirror low and inside. I used the dielectric goop for light bulbs and electrical contacts, as I had that laying around. I will post again if problem comes back soon. 71k miles on my 335i and going strong.
Last edited by Boogster; 12-28-2013 at 02:53 PM. Reason: Update
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By UKBasketball on 01-06-2014, 02:46 PM
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I just did this today. Took about 10-15 min. Mirror is easy to pop off, just tilt down and in towards the window like others have said.

Hopefully this will fix my phantom mirror. This thing has been moving all over the place lately... I know it does it with the central locking button, but it also moved if I used my spare metal key to lock or unlock my door. I hope this fixes the issue, I will report back with update after a couple months or so.
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By Agentphish on 01-09-2014, 11:44 AM
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I'm going to do this. I was just called and told this repair isn't covered under CPO…though if there's a TSB on it AND it's a safety issue, I'm not sure I understand why is isn't covered…The dealer has been super awesome and is doing a lot of other work and taking care of me so I'm not upset or arguing, especially knowing this DIY exists.

Anyone get this covered under CPO?
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By Slickascanbe on 01-14-2014, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Agentphish View Post
I'm going to do this. I was just called and told this repair isn't covered under CPO…though if there's a TSB on it AND it's a safety issue, I'm not sure I understand why is isn't covered…The dealer has been super awesome and is doing a lot of other work and taking care of me so I'm not upset or arguing, especially knowing this DIY exists.

Anyone get this covered under CPO?
I was declined under CPO as well. If you're looking for it, the TSB number is 51 36 08. Apparently, it's not considered a safety issue !
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By Agentphish on 01-15-2014, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Slickascanbe View Post
I was declined under CPO as well. If you're looking for it, the TSB number is 51 36 08. Apparently, it's not considered a safety issue !
I think there's a fairly good and simplistic argument for it being a safety issue.. Being that if it doesn't readjust properly, and I don't notice immediately, and I go to use it and it's not properly adjusted as I think it should be it based on the expectations of the feature that BMW provided on the car and I hit something, I'd say that's a safety issue.

I'm not arguing because the fix from this thread performed by my dealership trying to help me out when the car was in for other CPO work seems to have worked like a charm. So I'd say definitely try this fix.
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By Mascot on 01-26-2014, 04:42 AM
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Still working!

I'm convinced that disconnecting the motor forces a reset of some kind. The whole assembly went back exactly as it had come off with no work or cleaning needed on the contacts.

Regardless: awesome.

Has anyone tried this method and NOT have it work?
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By wilsjay on 01-27-2014, 09:43 PM
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Those look like aluminum pins on that plug, could be oxidation and just re-seating it clears it up. I had this same issue years ago on the main wiring harness on a dodge truck. Whatever pin it was it was always the same one (happened more than once) b/c it took out the dash cluster (lights and gauges) every time. The solution was unplug harness from the fuse block, blow it out and plug it back in.
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By fredcase on 05-11-2014, 08:15 PM
I just did this today. Super easy fix. Worked like a charm. Very grateful to the op for this.
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By Jugz330xi on 06-02-2014, 10:18 AM
wilsjay...

I'm having a similar problem on my 2006 330xi. Both mirrors are F$%##$ up and it's driving me nuts. The strange thing is..is that the mirrors tend to fold out and all the way to the 12 "o" clock position (so pointing towards the front of the car) when i press my unlock button on my car. Sometimes when i start my car they do it.....and once in a while, though rare, when i'm driving - all the sudden the mirror will just simply fold out all the way. It has a mind of its own.....

have you had any problems since you did the fix? Can you think of any reason why the unlock on the remote would cause the mirrors to respond in such a way?

my bmw mechanic told me i have to completely replace both mirror assemblies; and then i found out the ridiculous price !!!!

Please help

cheers
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By Steve P. on 06-30-2014, 07:49 PM
Thank You Thank You Thank You! Worked like a charm!!!
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By sarconi11 on 08-04-2014, 10:13 AM
Thank you so much for this! Every time I drove in reverse I would want to scream after seeing the mirror not return to its original position.
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By harms on 11-28-2014, 11:58 PM
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Thank-you!

This worked perfectly for me and was so easy.
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By d-lauds1345 on 12-01-2014, 01:52 PM
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This has been aggrevating me for 5 months now. Cannot wait to try it, thanks for posting!

Update: Did it, took me about 10 minutes. Seems to have solved the problem. Thanks for the help!
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