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How to install a Head Unit with buit-in USB and Bluetooth
Jose_JN
05-06-2012
Hi mates!

This time I am showing you how to identify and retrofit a new Professional Head Unit wit built-in USB and Bluetooth features on my e93 from 05/2007

The improvement is very high!
Now, I have an USB socket and I don't need my iPod anymore because the USB...
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By ripper0306 on 04-05-2013, 10:09 AM
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Yes I can read and write with NCS Expert (You mean like coding other functions with the PSW profile, Angel Eyes etc, etc..)
I already changed few options (Chimes/Gongs removal)

When I try to READ the RAD2, I get an error (but I have the trc anyway)
Same thing when I try to code it (Basic functions and then SG_Codieren)
(Wrong cable)

When I put $644, and read the RAD2 with READ, in the TRC file, I have 'Bluetooth' - aktiv
and RAD2_Bluetooth - aktiv
USB too.

I really don't understand...
I will re-read your posts on the topic.
Last edited by ripper0306; 04-05-2013 at 10:19 AM.
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By kris1973 on 04-06-2013, 03:18 AM
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hello, if I add vo $ 663, $ 6FL, $ 6NN, I have to change even in rad2 bluetooth and ulf on activ you no longer need? How to add vin to the radio?
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By alexwhittemore on 04-06-2013, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by kris1973 View Post
hello, if I add vo $ 663, $ 6FL, $ 6NN, I have to change even in rad2 bluetooth and ulf on activ you no longer need? How to add vin to the radio?
You shouldn't need to do any coding to the radio itself, aside from maybe an SG_RESET job, which you should probably do for the whole car anyway.
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By kris1973 on 04-06-2013, 05:46 AM
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I have a E90 LCI in 2009, radio 05/2011, there is no need to encode or append it works bt vo, voice commands, aux. I do not have cable or jack aux / usb to check it out, I'm waiting on those parts of the drive to write. An error has occurred in the body MASK C56D it is bound to not add all vin to the radio?
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By woodpecka on 04-06-2013, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ripper0306 View Post
Yes I can read and write with NCS Expert (You mean like coding other functions with the PSW profile, Angel Eyes etc, etc..)
I already changed few options (Chimes/Gongs removal)

When I try to READ the RAD2, I get an error (but I have the trc anyway)
Same thing when I try to code it (Basic functions and then SG_Codieren)
(Wrong cable)

When I put $644, and read the RAD2 with READ, in the TRC file, I have 'Bluetooth' - aktiv
and RAD2_Bluetooth - aktiv
USB too.

I really don't understand...
I will re-read your posts on the topic.
Perfect, you can read / write.

Based on my knowledge, there is 2 type of situation caused by the radio or the car build....you can't read/write but just adding the option to the car and resetting the radio will give you the new functions

or

like me and you, you can't get the new functions by only adding the VO but you can do it manually.

So, there is my MAN file. Because you could have different car setup, I suggest that you compare it to your and keep only what you need. As I have a E91, you will see some specific sound parameters for my car.

Let me know how it works!
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File Type: txt FSW_PSW_USB_BT_Voice_manual_francais.txt (3.1 KB, 126 views)
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By ripper0306 on 04-06-2013, 04:07 PM
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Mine is really different from yours
I don't see the 'RAD2_bluetooth', 'bluetooth' nor the 'RAD2_usb' in your Man file...
I tried this morning to change settings manually, but it doesn't work either...

I'll post my MAN file tomorrow.

And another question like the one I asked to you on BMW-one, did you swap the wiring on the VW mic to make it compatible ? I have the VW mic too.
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By woodpecka on 04-06-2013, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ripper0306
Mine is really different from yours
I don't see the 'RAD2_bluetooth', 'bluetooth' nor the 'RAD2_usb' in your Man file...
I tried this morning to change settings manually, but it doesn't work either...

I'll post my MAN file tomorrow.

And another question like the one I asked to you on BMW-one, did you swap the wiring on the VW mic to make it compatible ? I have the VW mic too.
My radio is a 2URAD (not 2RAD) so could be different than yours.

For the VW Mic, I just put it on the right connectors. I don't understand what you mean by swapping them?
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By Shagx on 04-06-2013, 11:31 PM
Write the vo and then write a blank man file to your rad2 so the radio picks up the vo from your car.
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By ripper0306 on 04-07-2013, 10:11 AM
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Yes Woodpecka, I was talking about put it in the right connectors, I did it too.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shagx View Post
Write the vo and then write a blank man file to your rad2 so the radio picks up the vo from your car.
I just tested that.
Here is what I did with my actual FA :
E82_#1114&GCSW%0A22*UC71$1CA$1CB$1CD$205$249$2MR$2 PA$321$337$441$468$473$481$4MG$502$522$534$540$548 $663$6FL$6NN$704$760$775$7XA$845$854$863$884-A080
(you can see $663 / $6FL / $6NN)

I injected a blank FSW PSW in the 2RAD module.
We can see 'Bluetooth' and 'RAD_Bluetooth' are disabled... I don't know why because $6NN is written in the FA...

Then I manually modified this settings to 'aktiv' and coded it to the 2RAD module.

Same result, still no Bluetooth in the menu (ignition started)...
This is really weird.

I added the FSW PSW result (after injected a blank file) and the one I modified to make BT works.
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File Type: txt FSW_PSW .txt (230.4 KB, 249 views)
File Type: txt Manually Modified FSW_PSW .txt (230.4 KB, 235 views)
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By woodpecka on 04-07-2013, 11:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ripper0306

I just tested that.
Here is what I did with my actual FA :
E82_#1114&GCSW%0A22*UC71$1CA$1CB$1CD$205$249$2MR$2 PA$321$337$441$468$473$481$4MG$502$522$534$540$548 $663$6FL$6NN$704$760$775$7XA$845$854$863$884-A080
(you can see $663 / $6FL / $6NN)

I injected a blank FSW PSW in the 2RAD module.
We can see 'Bluetooth' and 'RAD_Bluetooth' are disabled... I don't know why because $6NN is written in the FA...

Then I manually modified this settings to 'aktiv' and coded it to the 2RAD module.

Same result, still no Bluetooth in the menu (ignition started)...
This is really weird.

I added the FSW PSW result (after injected a blank file) and the one I modified to make BT works.
Have you changed the build date a more recent one?
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By woodpecka on 04-07-2013, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woodpecka
Quote:
Originally Posted by ripper0306

I just tested that.
Here is what I did with my actual FA :
E82_#1114&GCSW%0A22*UC71$1CA$1CB$1CD$205$249$2MR$2 PA$321$337$441$468$473$481$4MG$502$522$534$540$548 $663$6FL$6NN$704$760$775$7XA$845$854$863$884-A080
(you can see $663 / $6FL / $6NN)

I injected a blank FSW PSW in the 2RAD module.
We can see 'Bluetooth' and 'RAD_Bluetooth' are disabled... I don't know why because $6NN is written in the FA...

Then I manually modified this settings to 'aktiv' and coded it to the 2RAD module.

Same result, still no Bluetooth in the menu (ignition started)...
This is really weird.

I added the FSW PSW result (after injected a blank file) and the one I modified to make BT works.
Have you changed the build date a more recent one?
Ok, I saw you have #1114. Does it make sense to have 14?

Try somehing else like #1111 or #1010
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By ripper0306 on 04-07-2013, 12:45 PM
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I tried with 0311 and 0911 too... before that.
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By kris1973 on 04-11-2013, 04:07 AM
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You have to change the vin on the radio, if I bought used with winkfp? If so, this must be done on the ignition with power rectifier?
Regards
Krzysztof
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By ripper0306 on 04-11-2013, 07:19 AM
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How can I do that ?
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By Gav-d3 on 04-16-2013, 03:54 AM
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Hi
I have a 2007 e90 pre LCI with the Professional HU
It doesn't have USB or bluetooth just the AUX input with old style gong !

Can I upgrade this without too much work ?

Any help would be great !
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By kris1973 on 04-19-2013, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hotwheels View Post
Hello all !
I have just received a completely new unit (65129268810) with Bluetooth and MOST.
I have tested it and I don't know if the unit is broken or just new and need coding at dealership ?
When I turn on the unit, the screen is all orange like a display test function...
So I can't use it like that
The radio is new from BMW dealership.

- broken ?
Or
- new and need coding ?
hi, I have a similar symptom of radio, how to you handled? The radio was broken, exchanged with a new one if something was connected? Regards Christopher
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By taibanl on 05-13-2013, 11:02 AM
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I am guessing this US head unit (with HD radio) would work?

http://realoem.com/bmw/partxref.do?part=65129268822
http://realoem.com/bmw/partxref.do?part=65129268818 (with MOST)
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By lavar56 on 05-13-2013, 02:02 PM
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My new head unit has DAB built in as well as USB/BT which is great. If i get a new diversity antenna to support the DAB i need to run a cable from the antenna to the new HU. Any ideas how this can be done? Thanks.
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By Frankieflow on 06-25-2013, 07:56 AM
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Superb thread.I have bought the HU,usb/aux and coded the car.All is well but because I originally had bluetooth (ulf) module in the boot.I know the ulf can now be removed and the optic cable capped,my question is,can I intercept the mic cable anywhere that already exists in the dome light and connect it directly to the HU?
Regards,

Frank.
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By tov.Saahov on 06-25-2013, 10:28 PM
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Hello dear!
I have a car E90 03/2011, stood Radio BMW Professional, I decided to change a BMW Professional USB and Bluetooth (12/2010).
So, when encoding at me out this error:
"Look at CABI.ERR and ERROR.LOG
COAPI-2020: SG antwortet nicht IFH-0009: SG nicht angeschlossen oder meldet sich nicht RAD2.
COAPI-2020: SG antwortet nicht SG-codieren"

I have read the entire forum, but, unfortunately, did not understand how to fix this error ... ((
In other forums offer to exchange diagnostic cable INPA. On the ICOM or OPS. They justify this by saying that INPA do not miss the big packet data rad2 and MULF2. Help please! Thanks for earlier!
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By Frankieflow on 06-29-2013, 08:02 AM
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Anybody got an answer for me?Im mid install and just missing the mic?
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Quote:
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Anybody got an answer for me?Im mid install and just missing the mic?
Hi Frank,

If you are retrofitting a new HU with USB and Bluetooth built in, you can get rid of your old ULF (the old bluetooth ecu located at your trunk)
It does not matter what you do with the old optic lead but better if your close the MOST ring using a cap as you said.

Of course you can use your old mic. You have to identify the wires which are routed to the trunk (they go by the passenger side near the fuse box).

There is no part number for the wire, I had to make it by my own with a pair of wires as I said in my DIY. It does not matter what wire you use but better if you buy one 'shielded'

I think the best solution is cut your old mic cable near the fuse box or the 'A' pillar and solder it to another wire routed to the HU.

Your old cable has 3 conductors, you are going to use only 2. Possitive and shield.

Mic 1 - HU 1 (Inner wire)
Mic 2 - HU 6 (Shield of the wire)

Regards.
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