Hankook V12 versus Pilot Super Sports - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

wdlfbio · 05-07-2012, 11:58 AM

Are the Super Sports worth almost twice the price? 19" staggered, so no rotating. This is my DD and I put 120 hwy miles commuting roundtrip to work. There will be a little track/autoX time.

I know the Supersports are a better tire, but is it worth it when I'll be burning through the rubber this fast?

VMRWheels · 05-07-2012, 02:19 PM

You'll find a lot of info between the two. The PSS's are very very good tires and are definitely worth the money. The Hankook's will be sticky enough to get you around town but you won't have as much traction as the PSS's.

Depending on your driving style, if you find yourself blowing through a lot of tires, just get the V12's. They're a good bang for the buck.

E90SoFlo · 05-07-2012, 04:35 PM

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itrocks4u · 05-07-2012, 04:41 PM

I have Hankooks on 19s staggered. For daily driving, no tracking and a lot of highway driving, I find them pretty good.

wdlfbio · 05-08-2012, 12:14 AM

Gonna pull the trigger on the Hankooks. If I don't end up liking them, I'm sure I'll get to buy new ones in 12-18 months anyway.

Gracias.

ModBargains.com · 05-08-2012, 10:43 AM

The Hankook Ventus V12 is a great overall performance tire, have good traction, and will not break the bank. It's definitely worth the shot and you'll be able to use the money saved on other mods

**Gary@TireRack** · 05-08-2012, 11:15 AM

The V12 Evo is a great street tire for someone after a good "bang for the buck" performance summer tire. It will not approach the level of grip and handling of the Pilot Super Sport, especially on the track.

Tires http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&...ires/index.jsp

hemi to e90 · 05-08-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by wdlfbio

Are the Super Sports worth almost twice the price? 19" staggered, so no rotating. This is my DD and I put 120 hwy miles commuting roundtrip to work. There will be a little track/autoX time.

I know the Supersports are a better tire, but is it worth it when I'll be burning through the rubber this fast?

i understand your motive and your question here. i too put a lot of miles on my e90 (20k in 9 months), so spending 1000+ on tires is, unappealing to be polite about it.

i wouldnt go to the v12s if your mostly doing street driving because of the wear rate and personal unsatisfactory experience with them, but i recently got the bf goodrich comp2s, and while they are a little loud around town, they are fantastic. grip is very high, braking performance is right up there, and with 380whp+, they dont break traction as quickly as other tires have.

my point is while you dont have to go comp2s, you can find other, fantastic tires for a reasonable price and with a reasonable tread wear in comparison to the pilot sports.

drfrink24 · 05-08-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hemi to e90

i understand your motive and your question here. i too put a lot of miles on my e90 (20k in 9 months), so spending 1000+ on tires is, unappealing to be polite about it.

i wouldnt go to the v12s if your mostly doing street driving because of the wear rate and personal unsatisfactory experience with them, but i recently got the bf goodrich comp2s, and while they are a little loud around town, they are fantastic. grip is very high, braking performance is right up there, and with 380whp+, they dont break traction as quickly as other tires have.

my point is while you dont have to go comp2s, you can find other, fantastic tires for a reasonable price and with a reasonable tread wear in comparison to the pilot sports.

I went with Yokohama Advan S4's per a recommendation from the shop I installed them at. They are ultra perf. all season, but from what I'm told, they are pretty much summer only tires (with great wet handling). They have been very quiet and handle pretty good.

hemi to e90 · 05-08-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by drfrink24

I went with Yokohama Advan S4's per a recommendation from the shop I installed them at. They are ultra perf. all season, but from what I'm told, they are pretty much summer only tires (with great wet handling). They have been very quiet and handle pretty good.

i dont go by "shop" recommendations, and i ran the S4s on my previous audi, they were not "spectacular" and i wouldnt consider them "pretty much summer only tires".

that being said, for an all season they are very reasonable, and got me home a few times after i was caught out by unexpected snow storms.

but again, summer tires, with summer tire levels of grip and feedback, they are not.

CPWINCH · 05-08-2012, 02:06 PM

get hankook rs3. better than the michelin but cheaper

Brian@bavarianx · 05-08-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CPWINCH

get hankook rs3. better than the michelin but cheaper

Better than Michelin on the track but not for daily driving.

V12's will probably be your best bet OP.

wdlfbio · 05-08-2012, 02:37 PM

The Comp 2s don't have a 235/19. I thought about Direzzas and RS3s, but they don't have my sizes either. Continental DWs are backordered in 235/19, so that pulled those from the running. I already have dedicated 17s for winter, so no desire for psuedo all-seasons. Plus I have Advan Sports on the M and figure I'd test another route.

So it was literally between the V12s and PSSs. $$$$ won out. The V12s will end up being <$900 mounted/balanced/tax with road hazard warranty IF I blow one.

Anything will be better than the RFTs

Thanks for the responses. Hopefully this info will help others in the future.

05-07-2012, 11:58 AM	#1
wdlfbio Captain Drives: E92 M3 & 335xi, Chevy 2500Dmax Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maple Valley, WA Posts: 638 iTrader: (1)	Hankook V12 versus Pilot Super Sports Are the Super Sports worth almost twice the price? 19" staggered, so no rotating. This is my DD and I put 120 hwy miles commuting roundtrip to work. There will be a little track/autoX time. I know the Supersports are a better tire, but is it worth it when I'll be burning through the rubber this fast? __________________ '08 Alpine white E92 M3 with DTC--Sold '12 Alpine white E92 335 Xdrive with slush box '07 Summit white Chevy 2500 HD Duramax/Allison '12 Alpine white Z4 35is via EuroDelivery June 4th
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05-08-2012, 12:14 AM	#5
wdlfbio Captain Drives: E92 M3 & 335xi, Chevy 2500Dmax Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maple Valley, WA Posts: 638 iTrader: (1)	Gonna pull the trigger on the Hankooks. If I don't end up liking them, I'm sure I'll get to buy new ones in 12-18 months anyway. Gracias. __________________ '08 Alpine white E92 M3 with DTC--Sold '12 Alpine white E92 335 Xdrive with slush box '07 Summit white Chevy 2500 HD Duramax/Allison '12 Alpine white Z4 35is via EuroDelivery June 4th

05-08-2012, 11:15 AM	#7
Gary@TireRack Moderator Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ Posts: 2,862 iTrader: (1)	The V12 Evo is a great street tire for someone after a good "bang for the buck" performance summer tire. It will not approach the level of grip and handling of the Pilot Super Sport, especially on the track. Tires http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&...ires/index.jsp __________________ Gary Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator The Tire Rack, Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp 1-877-522-8473 ext 386 Refer to 'Gary/E90Post' as your previous contact when you order online. Credit E90post.com by ordering through the sig link.

05-08-2012, 02:37 PM	#13
wdlfbio Captain Drives: E92 M3 & 335xi, Chevy 2500Dmax Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maple Valley, WA Posts: 638 iTrader: (1)	The Comp 2s don't have a 235/19. I thought about Direzzas and RS3s, but they don't have my sizes either. Continental DWs are backordered in 235/19, so that pulled those from the running. I already have dedicated 17s for winter, so no desire for psuedo all-seasons. Plus I have Advan Sports on the M and figure I'd test another route. So it was literally between the V12s and PSSs. $$$$ won out. The V12s will end up being <$900 mounted/balanced/tax with road hazard warranty IF I blow one. Anything will be better than the RFTs Thanks for the responses. Hopefully this info will help others in the future. __________________ '08 Alpine white E92 M3 with DTC--Sold '12 Alpine white E92 335 Xdrive with slush box '07 Summit white Chevy 2500 HD Duramax/Allison '12 Alpine white Z4 35is via EuroDelivery June 4th

05-07-2012, 04:35 PM	#3
E90SoFlo Banned Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 2,682 iTrader: (9)	Vredestein UltraC Sessanta

05-07-2012, 04:41 PM	#4
itrocks4u Captain Drives: 2011 328i xdrive Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 780 iTrader: (1)	I have Hankooks on 19s staggered. For daily driving, no tracking and a lot of highway driving, I find them pretty good.

05-08-2012, 10:43 AM	#6
ModBargains.com Banned Drives: JB E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 1721 E. Lambert Rd #C, La Habra, CA 90631 Posts: 13,597 iTrader: (51)	The Hankook Ventus V12 is a great overall performance tire, have good traction, and will not break the bank. It's definitely worth the shot and you'll be able to use the money saved on other mods

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