iPod changing to FM by itself... (iDrive) - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Definitive · 07-19-2007, 01:05 AM

All I did was mention it, and he started telling me about the recall. He didnt tell me the # or anything. Just try to call them about it. They must know now...

I was just calling to try to get a new cable to see if that worked...

Good luck!

Definitive

PS: Does your iPod ever die to the point that it wont turn on then you get in the car? Or is this just me? Its like its draining the iPods battery when the car is off or something???

YVR335i · 07-19-2007, 09:17 AM

Yep. My iPod was fully charged when I put it in the same day I picked up my car. About 10 days later iDrive would not recognize the iPod and I couldn't turn it on when I took it out of the car. It wouldn't even charge from the computer's USB port. It's a 4G so I had to use the external power supply that came with it and then everything was fine (I believe the external power supply also resets the iPod [but I may be mistaken]).

Definitive · 07-19-2007, 10:06 AM

Well lets hope this is fixed as well...

japac1 · 07-19-2007, 10:13 AM

This is good news. Let us know how you make out.

YVR335i · 07-19-2007, 01:40 PM

I called the service department at my dealer and they said the 6FL fix has not been released in Canada yet - maybe next week.

Definitive: Please let us know how it turns out. Thanks.

Definitive · 07-19-2007, 03:53 PM

Will do. My apt isnt for a few weeks though. I am out of town for 2 weeks...

D

YVR335i · 07-19-2007, 04:04 PM

I talked to BMW Canada Customer Service and they told me that the software fix for my car will not be available until September. This sucks.

msimon18 · 07-19-2007, 07:02 PM

Definitive ... do you know what version of SW fixes the issue ?? Last I heard v28 was supposed to be out next week. Is that the version you are talking about ??

Thx

Definitive · 07-19-2007, 07:19 PM

Dont know... The service guy said they have a fix, so I didnt ask any questions... Ill try to find out.

D

JamieA · 08-09-2007, 05:06 AM

This info is great. My iPod Nano keeps doing the same thing, and then when you go into the iDrive media selection the CD is dimmed. You have to disconnect and reconnect the iPod to get it to reconnect. I just drove all the way from Melbourne to Adelaide (850Km, 530miles) with no music because the f**ing iPod and BMW refused to talk, and sometimes only intermittently.

It seemed to be fixed the next day after the BMW had gone into "deep sleep" mode and all is now fine again, but my dealer is definitely going to hear about this.

Definitive · 08-09-2007, 10:47 AM

Well I have bad news for myself. Got a call yesterday while my car was at the dealer. The service guy said that he was not able to do the fix on my car. And that He thought I had a different car.

Then he went on to tell me it might be my ipod... Grrrrrrrr.

But then he said he was going to test everything to see if he can find a reason to do the upgrade.

I am not expecting good news today. Well seee...

Definitive

Definitive · 08-09-2007, 03:02 PM

Now they are saying that they think it could be my Custom Subwoofer. Even though I said that it happend since the day I got the car.

japac1 · 08-09-2007, 03:21 PM

they told me (I think I said this soemwhere else) that I need to re-set my ipod and that the SIB didn't cover my car.

msimon18 · 08-09-2007, 04:44 PM

OK - here's the skinny. It's NOT a software fix. They are replacing the Y cable because they have found out it does not put out enough current to allow the iPod to charge correctly. All of this is a result iof evaluations of similar issues with the iPhone.

BMW NA said the parts should start to become available later this week (I talked to them yesterday). Check with your dealer.

Definitive · 08-09-2007, 04:52 PM

Is that just for the charging issue I had? Or the switching to FM issue? Cause my dealer is now saying they no nothing about any of it!

Got to love the dealers!!!

msimon18 · 08-09-2007, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Definitive

Is that just for the charging issue I had? Or the switching to FM issue? Cause my dealer is now saying they no nothing about any of it!

Got to love the dealers!!!

Just the CHARGING issue. BMW NA says they are NOT AWARE of ANY FM Switching Issue !!!!!

Definitive · 08-09-2007, 11:29 PM

Thats not good...

And I got more bad news today. They were finally "aloud" to upgrade my programming and the guy says it still does it. So at this point they are at square 1.

This is not fun, I just want my car back. I dont even care about the switching anymore...

D

YVR335i · 08-09-2007, 11:30 PM

I talked with BMW Canada Customer Service last month and explained the situation with my iPod. As my car was built in May, they said replacing the MULF wouldn't do anything as I already have the new one. A software patch is supposed to be released in September, but they didn't say when or what else it would address.

As an aside, I measured the power going to the iPod from the USB port and there's a definite dropout when iDrive switches to FM. The voltage sag lasts about 0.4 seconds and goes down to 1 V (from 5). I drove around with a 'scope on the power lines and captured the same signal drop every time it glitched. I have rigged up a low impedance super cap to cover the 0.4s drop that happens every 6 minutes (or more or less). I hope to try it on the car tomorrow.

1clean335i · 08-10-2007, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YVR335i

I talked with BMW Canada Customer Service last month and explained the situation with my iPod. As my car was built in May, they said replacing the MULF wouldn't do anything as I already have the new one. A software patch is supposed to be released in September, but they didn't say when or what else it would address.

Thats false.... I've replaced an MULF on an E93. The first time the car was in, BMW N/A told me the part was ok as it was out of their so called production range of defective ones. So I gave the car back to the customer with no fix available yet...

Customer brought the car back again a few weeks later and insisted I do something. So I wrote to BMW N/A again and they told me to trial fit a known good MULF. So I did, and it worked. The bulletin that is out needs to be updated and ive told that to BMW N/A when I found out a new MULF fixed the problem...

I keep in pretty good touch with the client now and its been about 3 weeks and his i-pod is working flawlessly

msimon18 · 08-10-2007, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YVR335i

I talked with BMW Canada Customer Service last month and explained the situation with my iPod. As my car was built in May, they said replacing the MULF wouldn't do anything as I already have the new one. A software patch is supposed to be released in September, but they didn't say when or what else it would address.

As an aside, I measured the power going to the iPod from the USB port and there's a definite dropout when iDrive switches to FM. The voltage sag lasts about 0.4 seconds and goes down to 1 V (from 5). I drove around with a 'scope on the power lines and captured the same signal drop every time it glitched. I have rigged up a low impedance super cap to cover the 0.4s drop that happens every 6 minutes (or more or less). I hope to try it on the car tomorrow.

One engineer to another -- great idea. Interested tosee how it all works out.

Definitive · 08-10-2007, 10:41 AM

YVR335i: If this works, please post how you did it? I will do it for my car ASAP.

It is insteresting how every dealership says something different, and how different things seem to fix the same problem in different e92's.

Weird....

Jaimito · 08-19-2007, 10:29 AM

got my 335i coupe 4 days ago, and I also have the FM switch problem. I will reset the ipod today and see it that will work. 80GB video Ipod, factory installed ipod adaptor.

07-19-2007, 01:05 AM	#23
Definitive definitivecars.com Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,411 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 E90 M3 [3.75] 2009 (Lease up Sept ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up 6/19 ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up Octo ... [0.00]	All I did was mention it, and he started telling me about the recall. He didnt tell me the # or anything. Just try to call them about it. They must know now... I was just calling to try to get a new cable to see if that worked... Good luck! Definitive PS: Does your iPod ever die to the point that it wont turn on then you get in the car? Or is this just me? Its like its draining the iPods battery when the car is off or something??? __________________ CCC - Camarillo Cars & Coffee - Weekly Ventura County Meet - 8pm - Coffee Bean on Arniell

07-19-2007, 10:06 AM	#25
Definitive definitivecars.com Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,411 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 E90 M3 [3.75] 2009 (Lease up Sept ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up 6/19 ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up Octo ... [0.00]	Well lets hope this is fixed as well... __________________ CCC - Camarillo Cars & Coffee - Weekly Ventura County Meet - 8pm - Coffee Bean on Arniell

07-19-2007, 10:13 AM	#26
japac1 Major Drives: 2007 335 xi Join Date: May 2007 Location: Longview, TX Posts: 1,100 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335xi [0.00]	This is good news. Let us know how you make out. __________________ [font="Garamond"]2007 E90 335 xi, Monaco Blue, Beige, Prem, Cold, Step, Navi, Sat, iPod

07-19-2007, 03:53 PM	#28
Definitive definitivecars.com Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,411 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 E90 M3 [3.75] 2009 (Lease up Sept ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up 6/19 ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up Octo ... [0.00]	Will do. My apt isnt for a few weeks though. I am out of town for 2 weeks... D __________________ CCC - Camarillo Cars & Coffee - Weekly Ventura County Meet - 8pm - Coffee Bean on Arniell

07-19-2007, 07:02 PM	#30
msimon18 Retired Drives: Z4 s30i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Villages, FL Posts: 868 iTrader: (0) Garage List 1965 Isetta 300 [0.00] 2004 1/5 Scale M3 GTR [0.00]	Definitive ... do you know what version of SW fixes the issue ?? Last I heard v28 was supposed to be out next week. Is that the version you are talking about ?? Thx __________________ M3 GTR - 1/5 scale - 4.2 HP w/ Collari hydraulic brakes - would you believe ~80 MPH on straightaway !!

07-19-2007, 09:17 AM	#24
YVR335i Enlisted Member Drives: E92 335i Graphite Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver Posts: 32 iTrader: (0)	Yep. My iPod was fully charged when I put it in the same day I picked up my car. About 10 days later iDrive would not recognize the iPod and I couldn't turn it on when I took it out of the car. It wouldn't even charge from the computer's USB port. It's a 4G so I had to use the external power supply that came with it and then everything was fine (I believe the external power supply also resets the iPod [but I may be mistaken]).

07-19-2007, 01:40 PM	#27
YVR335i Enlisted Member Drives: E92 335i Graphite Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver Posts: 32 iTrader: (0)	I called the service department at my dealer and they said the 6FL fix has not been released in Canada yet - maybe next week. Definitive: Please let us know how it turns out. Thanks.

07-19-2007, 04:04 PM	#29
YVR335i Enlisted Member Drives: E92 335i Graphite Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver Posts: 32 iTrader: (0)	I talked to BMW Canada Customer Service and they told me that the software fix for my car will not be available until September. This sucks.

07-19-2007, 07:19 PM	#31
Definitive definitivecars.com Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,411 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 E90 M3 [3.75] 2009 (Lease up Sept ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up 6/19 ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up Octo ... [0.00]	Dont know... The service guy said they have a fix, so I didnt ask any questions... Ill try to find out. D __________________ CCC - Camarillo Cars & Coffee - Weekly Ventura County Meet - 8pm - Coffee Bean on Arniell

08-09-2007, 05:06 AM	#32
JamieA Colonel Drives: E90 325i SG Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 2,145 iTrader: (0)	This info is great. My iPod Nano keeps doing the same thing, and then when you go into the iDrive media selection the CD is dimmed. You have to disconnect and reconnect the iPod to get it to reconnect. I just drove all the way from Melbourne to Adelaide (850Km, 530miles) with no music because the f**ing iPod and BMW refused to talk, and sometimes only intermittently. It seemed to be fixed the next day after the BMW had gone into "deep sleep" mode and all is now fine again, but my dealer is definitely going to hear about this. __________________ '05 E90 325i 6sp Man SG 118,032km on the odo (retired) '06 E90 325i Step SG 121,021km on the odo (retired) '08 E90 325i LCI Step \| Space Grey \| Black/Burr Walnut \| Adaptive Xenons with HBA \| CA \| Navi Pro \| 17in mixed tyres \| 105,437 on the odo

08-09-2007, 10:47 AM	#33
Definitive definitivecars.com Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,411 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 E90 M3 [3.75] 2009 (Lease up Sept ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up 6/19 ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up Octo ... [0.00]	Well I have bad news for myself. Got a call yesterday while my car was at the dealer. The service guy said that he was not able to do the fix on my car. And that He thought I had a different car. Then he went on to tell me it might be my ipod... Grrrrrrrr. But then he said he was going to test everything to see if he can find a reason to do the upgrade. I am not expecting good news today. Well seee... Definitive __________________ CCC - Camarillo Cars & Coffee - Weekly Ventura County Meet - 8pm - Coffee Bean on Arniell

08-09-2007, 03:02 PM	#34
Definitive definitivecars.com Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,411 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 E90 M3 [3.75] 2009 (Lease up Sept ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up 6/19 ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up Octo ... [0.00]	Now they are saying that they think it could be my Custom Subwoofer. Even though I said that it happend since the day I got the car. __________________ CCC - Camarillo Cars & Coffee - Weekly Ventura County Meet - 8pm - Coffee Bean on Arniell

08-09-2007, 03:21 PM	#35
japac1 Major Drives: 2007 335 xi Join Date: May 2007 Location: Longview, TX Posts: 1,100 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335xi [0.00]	they told me (I think I said this soemwhere else) that I need to re-set my ipod and that the SIB didn't cover my car. __________________ [font="Garamond"]2007 E90 335 xi, Monaco Blue, Beige, Prem, Cold, Step, Navi, Sat, iPod

08-09-2007, 04:44 PM	#36
msimon18 Retired Drives: Z4 s30i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Villages, FL Posts: 868 iTrader: (0) Garage List 1965 Isetta 300 [0.00] 2004 1/5 Scale M3 GTR [0.00]	OK - here's the skinny. It's NOT a software fix. They are replacing the Y cable because they have found out it does not put out enough current to allow the iPod to charge correctly. All of this is a result iof evaluations of similar issues with the iPhone. BMW NA said the parts should start to become available later this week (I talked to them yesterday). Check with your dealer. __________________ M3 GTR - 1/5 scale - 4.2 HP w/ Collari hydraulic brakes - would you believe ~80 MPH on straightaway !!

08-09-2007, 04:52 PM	#37
Definitive definitivecars.com Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,411 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 E90 M3 [3.75] 2009 (Lease up Sept ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up 6/19 ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up Octo ... [0.00]	Is that just for the charging issue I had? Or the switching to FM issue? Cause my dealer is now saying they no nothing about any of it! Got to love the dealers!!! __________________ CCC - Camarillo Cars & Coffee - Weekly Ventura County Meet - 8pm - Coffee Bean on Arniell

08-09-2007, 11:29 PM	#39
Definitive definitivecars.com Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,411 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 E90 M3 [3.75] 2009 (Lease up Sept ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up 6/19 ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up Octo ... [0.00]	Thats not good... And I got more bad news today. They were finally "aloud" to upgrade my programming and the guy says it still does it. So at this point they are at square 1. This is not fun, I just want my car back. I dont even care about the switching anymore... D __________________ CCC - Camarillo Cars & Coffee - Weekly Ventura County Meet - 8pm - Coffee Bean on Arniell

08-09-2007, 11:30 PM	#40
YVR335i Enlisted Member Drives: E92 335i Graphite Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver Posts: 32 iTrader: (0)	I talked with BMW Canada Customer Service last month and explained the situation with my iPod. As my car was built in May, they said replacing the MULF wouldn't do anything as I already have the new one. A software patch is supposed to be released in September, but they didn't say when or what else it would address. As an aside, I measured the power going to the iPod from the USB port and there's a definite dropout when iDrive switches to FM. The voltage sag lasts about 0.4 seconds and goes down to 1 V (from 5). I drove around with a 'scope on the power lines and captured the same signal drop every time it glitched. I have rigged up a low impedance super cap to cover the 0.4s drop that happens every 6 minutes (or more or less). I hope to try it on the car tomorrow.

08-10-2007, 10:41 AM	#43
Definitive definitivecars.com Drives: 2011 E90 M3 - AW/FR Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,411 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2011 E90 M3 [3.75] 2009 (Lease up Sept ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up 6/19 ... [0.00] 2007 (Lease up Octo ... [0.00]	YVR335i: If this works, please post how you did it? I will do it for my car ASAP. It is insteresting how every dealership says something different, and how different things seem to fix the same problem in different e92's. Weird.... __________________ CCC - Camarillo Cars & Coffee - Weekly Ventura County Meet - 8pm - Coffee Bean on Arniell

08-19-2007, 10:29 AM	#44
Jaimito Enlisted Member Drives: 335i Coupe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: PA Posts: 34 iTrader: (0)	got my 335i coupe 4 days ago, and I also have the FM switch problem. I will reset the ipod today and see it that will work. 80GB video Ipod, factory installed ipod adaptor.

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