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      05-20-2012, 06:05 PM   #1
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So guys,

As stated above. My 335i with me driving; no other passengers.
His C63 Sedan, 4 passengers total. (including driver) - mods unknown of any.

What do you think the out come was here? Third gear pulls.

Edit: I'm on old JB4 software so I meant map 1. Stock tuning.
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If you didn't pull away, I'd be extremely pissed lol
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you may get him because of the extra weight, map 2 wont touch a c63 straight up, need FBO and meth to keep up with those little monsters... lame race either way, why would someone want to put 3 other people at risk racing, guy doesnt deserve a c63 because he is a dumbass
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Well youre convertible so youve got some extra weight.
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what do we think the outcomes were? did you race him or not..?
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I raced a c63 with a passenger he was stock with a straight pipe. idk about cats

but i have a jb3 intake. and i beat him several time, very close, but i did crawl each time.

but mods for c63, you have to watch out. tunes can give them alot of hp.
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you may get him because of the extra weight, map 2 wont touch a c63 straight up, need FBO and meth to keep up with those little monsters... lame race either way, why would someone want to put 3 other people at risk racing, guy doesnt deserve a c63 because he is a dumbass
??? no. i ran a c63 with just a jb3 and intake. you do not need FBO or meth. crawled on him everytime.
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First of all...just to clarify things.

We were on a very long stretch of road and starting at about 60k to 140k with no one around us.

Second, I'm a vert. so I figured our weight difference would be negligible considering he's got much more hp/trq then me.

It was funny cuz I was always waiting for him to pull and so I lost a fraction of a sec. going WOT right after him, but would quickly catch and slowly begin to pull.

I honestly wasn't expecting this result because I always hear what beasts these cars are. I have to say though off the punch he does get a good kick in front and the exhaust sounds amazing.

Very good run, but score 1 for my little vert. !!
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Where's the video?
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Im E92 FBO+E85 mix and a bone stock c63 is door to door or I might edge out maybe a cunt hair. There is no way your going to walk away from him on just map 2 IMPO
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First of all...just to clarify things.

We were on a very long stretch of road and starting at about 60k to 140k with no one around us.

Second, I'm a vert. so I figured our weight difference would be negligible considering he's got much more hp/trq then me.

It was funny cuz I was always waiting for him to pull and so I lost a fraction of a sec. going WOT right after him, but would quickly catch and slowly begin to pull.

I honestly wasn't expecting this result because I always hear what beasts these cars are. I have to say though off the punch he does get a good kick in front and the exhaust sounds amazing.

Very good run, but score 1 for my little vert. !!
You mean 60kph to 140kph? Is that even speeding let alone racing?
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??? no. i ran a c63 with just a jb3 and intake. you do not need FBO or meth. crawled on him everytime.
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Im E92 FBO+E85 mix and a bone stock c63 is door to door or I might edge out maybe a cunt hair. There is no way your going to walk away from him on just map 2 IMPO
Well like I said he had 4 people total and the C63 is a secret fatty. I'm pretty heavy myself, but may have still been lighter as I was the only one in the car.

I don't understand how this is so hard to believe if we have guys running high 12's stock and mid to high 12's with tune. If he is stock those cars do about 12.5 1/4mile and that's the coupe.

Again, may have not been completely fair for him but I did let him go first everytime and my car runs pretty hard for an E93.

I'll be taking her to the track this year so hopefully I can get some numbers down.
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C63 AMG
HP: 451 HP
TQ: 443
Weight: 4,040 lbs
0-60: 4 seconds
1/4 Mile: 12.3 @ 116 MPH
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N54 BMS tune, Intake + Meth
HP: 420
TQ: 420
Weight: 3,980 lbs


Is it possible to beat a stock C63 w/ just a tune, intake & meth? I guess, but its gonna be a real close race. Chances are who ever wins off the line is gonna win the whole thing.
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C63 AMG
HP: 451 HP
TQ: 443
Weight: 4,040 lbs
0-60: 4 seconds
1/4 Mile: 12.3 @ 116 MPH
**Numbers from C&D


N54 BMS tune, Intake + Meth
HP: 420
TQ: 420
Weight: 3,980 lbs


Is it possible to beat a stock C63 w/ just a tune, intake & meth? I guess, but its gonna be a real close race. Chances are who ever wins off the line is gonna win the whole thing.
yours saying e93 right cause there is no way my e90 weighs that much
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yours saying e93 right cause there is no way my e90 weighs that much
Yea, E93 -- Here's Edmunds specs on both:

E90 -- 3,594 lbs
E92 -- 3,571 lbs
E93 --3,946 lbs
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lets see it
No the video is only for my viewing purposes only.

-_- if i had one id show it. i cant record and run someone at the same time. i was alone. he had a passenger, i never asked if he had a video. we did it 3 times, and each time i pulled. he then traded his car in for a srt-8.
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C63 AMG
HP: 451 HP
TQ: 443
Weight: 4,040 lbs
0-60: 4 seconds
1/4 Mile: 12.3 @ 116 MPH
**Numbers from C&D


N54 BMS tune, Intake + Meth
HP: 420
TQ: 420
Weight: 3,980 lbs


Is it possible to beat a stock C63 w/ just a tune, intake & meth? I guess, but its gonna be a real close race. Chances are who ever wins off the line is gonna win the whole thing.
Again, keep in mind he was a sedan with 4 ppl total. I'd say he's running a total weight of around approx 4800lbs.

I only have JB4 and me in the at would weigh about 4150lbs.

The power difference becomes negligible here. Comes down to bottom end power to get the pull.

Id say stock C63 sedan will run a high 12 at best. With 750lbs extra you're in low 13's which I'm sure an E93 can easily pull with a JB4.
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C63 AMG
HP: 451 HP
TQ: 443
Weight: 4,040 lbs
0-60: 4 seconds
1/4 Mile: 12.3 @ 116 MPH
**Numbers from C&D


N54 BMS tune, Intake + Meth
HP: 420
TQ: 420
Weight: 3,980 lbs


Is it possible to beat a stock C63 w/ just a tune, intake & meth? I guess, but its gonna be a real close race. Chances are who ever wins off the line is gonna win the whole thing.
yes.... maybe get a better tune and run a very aggressive map. (make sure you have the octane). with meth you should blow him away.

why do people act like beating c63 is impossible? its slightly faster then m3 and we all know a tuned 335i can take a m3. .
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Idrift,

Racing against someone that is mentally challenged doesn't count.

If you missed that, someone that trades a c63 for a srt8 is not right in the head.
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Idrift,

Racing against someone that is mentally challenged doesn't count.

If you missed that, someone that trades a c63 for a srt8 is not right in the head.
or has other responsibilities?

There plenty of people who ran c63 on here. big tom has many videos of him running fbo and meth vs a tuned c63 and still beat them.

if i had a video you would feel stupid, but i dont so embrace the good feelings.
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^^^
I was making a joke but if it was over your head, perhaps I'm calling the wrong person mentally challenged.

I don't question one bit that the c63 can't be beat, especially at lower speeds where an extra 700lbs plays a bigger part. From a 70mph roll, there may have been a different outcome.

Btw, I fail to see how going from one high powered sedan to another is a difference of responsibilities unless he's simply trying to save $.
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